Can everybody be quiet about Art Briles?

bandman659 said:
Remember what happened at Tennessee when they tried to hire Greg Schiano? I feel like we’d get exactly the same backlash from the fan base at large and we just don’t need that right now.
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A big difference between our fan base and the Tennessee fan base, IMHO. The vast majority of Tech fans have most of their teeth.
 
00Burdell said:
Thanks but I'll pass.
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The evidence exhonerating Briles only came to light a few months ago. Before that he was toxic. Why punish a guy who was so provably innocent that he was paid $15 million?

To put it frankly, we could get him and he could win. I’m not interested in a Brian Gregory type hire that leads to a decade of suck like our basketball team.
 
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TampaBayJacket said:
I dont think Briles could duplicate his success here. He just wont have the same latitude to bring in the "risky-but-gifted" athletes he regularly took in at Baylor.
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Chan and GOL were able to do it. CPJ gets all the waivers he requests. He’s said that multiple times.
 
gtphd said:
The evidence exhonerating Briles only came to light a few months ago. Before that he was toxic. Why punish a guy who was so probably innocent that he was paid $15 million?

To put it frankly, we could get him and he could win. I’m not interested in a Brian Gregory type hire that leads to a decade of suck like our basketball team.
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Your Art Briles fascination is way cooler than your expensive watch fascination. IMHO.
 
Baylor screwed Briles royally and paid him $15,000,000 because of it. Out of all the hysteria....one player has been convicted of rape and that guy never played a down.

The Baylor administration has been covering up campus rapes for decades to protect their image. They got caught and tried to scapegoat Briles and black football players.

There are currently 10 Jane Doe lawsuits filed against the school and they will pay millions to settle them. The discovery that has come out so far has humilated the school's regents.

All this being said, Briles is one of the few coaches who could win big at GT. He would sign and develop qb's, o-linemen and receivers
who would be drafted in the NFL. He would bring a balanced offense that can rush for 300 yds and pass for 400 yds in a game. The defense and special teams are still going to suck. After year three 8-4 is the bottom and 11-1 is possible. He would probably lobby to get rid of Clemson and Georgia every year.

He has plenty of money just needs a place to coach.
 
I would be just fine with art briles or mike leach. Just saying. Mike leaches offense would at least make tech look like a sexy choice for recruits.
 
BigDanT said:
I would be just fine with art briles or mike leach. Just saying. Mike leaches offense would at least make tech look like a sexy choice for recruits.
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Is Wash St suddenly recruiting great? I did not know that.
 
Cross posting from Tennessee thread

gtphd said:
This reminds me of the Duke Lacross case. Hear initial reports, assume guilt.

Read the reports from this summer. This WaPo article is a good start: https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...d32e182a3bc_story.html?utm_term=.e3d202fcf1bf Then try this from the Dallas Morning News. https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/...atorial-behavior-nothing-court-filings-allege

Elliott was suspended from the football team 12 days after the sexual assault of Hernandez, the same day Briles learned Waco police were asking for a cheek swab from Elliott and three days before Elliott was even charged.

In contrast, based on Thursday's court filing, reviewed by KWTX-TV in Waco, it appears two top officials in the university's Judicial Affairs office, David Murdock and Bethany McCraw, and Associate Vice President for Student Life Martha Lou Scott became aware of Elliott's assaults as early as Nov. 7, 2011. It also seems that Dr. Reagan Ramsower, then Baylor's chief operating officer, was aware that Elliott was "assaulting young women" as early as the week of Oct. 5, 2011.

It's preposterous that the school would have thought these documents from the Hernandez case weren't relevant to the ongoing Title IX lawsuit brought by the 10 Jane Does.

And it's even more mind-boggling that the administration appears not to have informed the football program of what it knew. This was a campus police department being careful — too careful — in relaying sensitive information. This was an administration that was operating in silos and didn't like to talk about unpleasant truths.

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Among the most troubling emails included with the motion is one from May 25, 2012, that indicates the football program didn't know what the administration knew about the football player. In the email, Jim Doak, then the Baylor police chief, tells his boss, Ramsower, that he had met that day with Collin Shillinglaw, director of football operations, regarding the Elliott case.
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So what actually happened at Baylor?
  • Students (not just football players) were raping people.
  • Baylor's administration suppressed these reports and discouraged charges in order to keep the name of the school clean. This wasn't limited to the football team.
  • The football coach was unaware of this until charges were formally filed against his player. He suspended the player when he learned the player was under investigation.
  • When lawsuits began, the administration attempted to peg this as a football issue. Released reports about other football players that were never sent to the coach. Fired the coach.
  • Subsequent investigations indicate that the coach knew nothing and that the administration supressed literally hundreds of cases.
  • School paid the coach an $18 million settlement.
  • President of the university was fired (and I suspect several additional administrators will be, as well.
Keep yourself informed.
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bandman659 said:
Remember what happened at Tennessee when they tried to hire Greg Schiano? I feel like we’d get exactly the same backlash from the fan base at large and we just don’t need that right now.
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Since when would GT give a crap what the fan base backlash would be?
 
18in32 said:
Is Wash St suddenly recruiting great? I did not know that.
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I jut looked through his w/l record and I def have changed my mind. Still like briles though.

Tech needs a bill Snyder type character.

Edit: what I mean is someone who will come and win consistently
 
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TampaBayJacket said:
I dont think Briles could duplicate his success here. He just wont have the same latitude to bring in the "risky-but-gifted" athletes he regularly took in at Baylor.
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This should be a permanent post with fill in the blanks provided. Why? Because it's true.

And, GOL and to some degree CCG, were able to get a different brand of waivers/exceptions (see graduation rates). New guy gonna be under microscope from Ma, unless TStan pulls off a unicornish miracle.
 
lol and you thought the local media hated Tech now...wait till we hire the coach who everyone thinks swept gang rape under the rug
 
Art Briles is only 62, can't you guys latch on to a coach who is more mature?? Please fixate on a coach who is not older than Paul Johnson.

Briles has only had 1 team in his entire career finish in the top 10.
 
This "stop talking about Art" thread has made me want to hear more about Art as a possible replacement at the end of the season.
 
aeromech said:
Art Briles is only 62, can't you guys latch on to a coach who is more mature?? Please fixate on a coach who is not older than Paul Johnson.

Briles has only had 1 team in his entire career finish in the top 10.
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I get that he is older, but his record is much better than other names suggested.
2008: 4-8
2009: 4-8
2010: 7-6
2011: 10-3
2012: 8-5
2013: 11-2
2014: 11-2
2015: 10-3
That's with trips to the cotton bowl and fiesta bowl. It demonstrates pretty good consistency. I've been a big Mike Leach proponent and he doesn't have a record like that. I'm curious who we could actually hire that has had more than 1 top 10 finish.


Also this idea that we shouldn't hire Briles because of his reputation is ridiculous. Yes it would be a bad narrative before people actually do research and see that Briles was not responsible for anything that happened at Baylor, but that should get cleared up fairly quickly. Besides, The media is gonna spin any Tech hire as a negative. Allowing predicted or potential media narratives to affect who we choose is ööööing stupid.
 
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