Charter Spectrum drops ESPN and all Disney

77GTFan said:
My cable bill better reflect that I am not getting ESPN channels, ACC and SEC networks, ABC and Disney. I don’t know who is at fault but this is ridiculous. Pulling the plug as the college football season is ready to kickoff shows absolute contempt for customers by both Disney and Spectrum.
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But did you die?!
 
77GTFan said:
Pulling the plug as the college football season is ready to kickoff shows absolute contempt for customers by both Disney and Spectrum.
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And that the carriers aren't scared of these guys like they used to be. You can sign up for YouTube TV now and watch the games if you'd like. The carriers have just had enough of Disney's crap and aren't hostage to them anymore.
 
savbandjacket said:
Disney is trying to force streamers into its package of Hulu, Espn+ and Disney+
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Respectfully, this is incorrect. They are losing lots of money on the streaming product and would need an impossible number of subscribers to start making money there.
This is the problem of entering long term contracts that paid too much money without accounting for how many people would cut the cord. Once non sports fans got rid of their cable package their isn't enough money left to subsidize things like the old days.
 
boozinbuzz said:
Respectfully, this is incorrect. They are losing lots of money on the streaming product and would need an impossible number of subscribers to start making money there.
This is the problem of entering long term contracts that paid too much money without accounting for how many people would cut the cord. Once non sports fans got rid of their cable package their isn't enough money left to subsidize things like the old days.
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BINGO!

ESPN's model for YEARS was collecting X dollars for every single cable subscriber whether they want ESPN or not by contractually preventing the cable companies from offering ESPN ala cart. You want to carry ESPN? Then you make EVERYONE (outside of so-called "basic cable" tier) take and pay for it.

Ala cart streaming blew up that model.

Congress could have and should have fixed this years ago, if they weren't all on the take. In other businesses, you cannot leverage monopoly power in one product to force folks to buy your other products. It's an antitrust violation.

Since the gov't isn't enforcing antitrust laws in media anyway, all the cable and streaming companies should get together and offer ESPN a take-it-or-leave it fee for each subsctiber who CHOOSES to have ESPN. That would fix their wagons. Maybe bankrupt them. Which would be good for us.
 
Skydog said:
the new YTTV split screen feature rocks. had four games on tonight.
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It’s not going to rock when gt plays on the cw/peachtree tv. They haven’t had peachtree tv in years and are dropping the cw today.
 
travgt01 said:
It’s not going to rock when gt plays on the cw/peachtree tv. They haven’t had peachtree tv in years and are dropping the cw today.
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i will figure something out. YTTV doesnt have Bally either. i have a work around for that.
 
ramblin_wreck08 said:
DirecTV stream has both. Switched a few months back for baseball season. Fubo might have both now too?
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yeah im just holding out cause we like YTTV so much. i watch braves hawks on bally app using a friends log in. bally app on TV used to suck. much better now.
 
1982Jacket said:
BINGO!

ESPN's model for YEARS was collecting X dollars for every single cable subscriber whether they want ESPN or not by contractually preventing the cable companies from offering ESPN ala cart. You want to carry ESPN? Then you make EVERYONE (outside of so-called "basic cable" tier) take and pay for it.

Ala cart streaming blew up that model.

Congress could have and should have fixed this years ago, if they weren't all on the take. In other businesses, you cannot leverage monopoly power in one product to force folks to buy your other products. It's an antitrust violation.

Since the gov't isn't enforcing antitrust laws in media anyway, all the cable and streaming companies should get together and offer ESPN a take-it-or-leave it fee for each subsctiber who CHOOSES to have ESPN. That would fix their wagons. Maybe bankrupt them. Which would be good for us.
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Alabama cart?
 
Pay for their internet alone. Share a YouTube.TV account with somebody.

Profit.
 
1982Jacket said:
BINGO!

ESPN's model for YEARS was collecting X dollars for every single cable subscriber whether they want ESPN or not by contractually preventing the cable companies from offering ESPN ala cart. You want to carry ESPN? Then you make EVERYONE (outside of so-called "basic cable" tier) take and pay for it.

Ala cart streaming blew up that model.

Congress could have and should have fixed this years ago, if they weren't all on the take. In other businesses, you cannot leverage monopoly power in one product to force folks to buy your other products. It's an antitrust violation.

Since the gov't isn't enforcing antitrust laws in media anyway, all the cable and streaming companies should get together and offer ESPN a take-it-or-leave it fee for each subsctiber who CHOOSES to have ESPN. That would fix their wagons. Maybe bankrupt them. Which would be good for us.
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Not just that -- they got it going the other way too. You want to watch ESPN? Then you're going to have to pay for the other 100 channels (90+ of which are crap) too.
 
ramblin_wreck08 said:
DirecTV stream has both. Switched a few months back for baseball season. Fubo might have both now too?
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I though DirecTV was having a dispute with Nexstar which owns CW in many markets. Is that issue resolved? Either way you can watch it with an antenna.
 
gtg970g said:
I though DirecTV was having a dispute with Nexstar which owns CW in many markets. Is that issue resolved? Either way you can watch it with an antenna.
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As far as I know, DirecTV Stream has converted Peachtree TV to CW as of today.
 
bandman said:
They wait for literally the kickoff of football season and freeze out the customers. No kids channels, no sports including ACC and SEC networks.
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It was Disney who pulled the plug right around kickoff time of the Fla/Utah game. screw them both.
hopefully this speeds up Disney's bankruptcy.
www.usatoday.com

ESPN goes dark for Spectrum cable subscribers amid Disney-Charter Communications dispute

A dispute between Disney and Charter Communications led to ESPN channels being blacked out for Spectrum cable subscribers.
www.usatoday.com
 
I wanted to complain so I went on the phone app and you can't make complaints on the app. The chat only offers so many topics you can chat about. So went on website and was finally able to type complaint into the search to get a representative. They apologized profusely and offerred me a one time credit of $15. So asked how to cancel service and they told me to call the Customer Solutions Department at 833-949-0036. I'm sure that will be like wrestling an alligator but thats the next step if not resolved before next week.

May come to an FCC complaint on their website if they still allow that.
 
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