Chizik refuses to suit up the team

Here's to that program digging itself an even deeper grave, and us taking all of the Columbus, GA and Auburn area talent!!!
 
Geori said:
Here's to that program digging itself an even deeper grave, and us taking all of the Columbus, GA and Auburn area talent!!!
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I lived in Columbus for 18 years of my life. I hadn't even thought of what people down there are like right now. It must be glorious. I would love to see what it is like if both ugag and auburn crapped out their seasons.
 
I was listening to a sports radio show while driving through Alabama earlier this week, and I heard that Auburn only has like 71 or so scholarship players this year. That is lower than the number we had last year! That could be a big reason he doesn't want to risk losing anyone.
 
olgoldandwhite said:
Why so few?
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Supposedly poor recruiting the last few years by Tuberville, and then Chizik had a bad offseason, which may be expected coming into his first season. At least that is what I have heard from Auburn fans to explain their numbers.
 
Auburn just bought itself a death spiral for the price of a new coach.
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I'm not an Auburn fan, and I don't think they should have pushed Tuberville out, but from what I have read, Iowa State had much better athletes/depth/ability when Chizik left than it had before he got there. Considering he was the the DC for undefeated teams (Auburn and Texas) in consecutive seasons, I think it is clear he knows something about football. While this doesn't mean he'll be a good HC, I don't think two years at Iowa State is enough evidence to judge him by.
 
BuzzMD said:
Supposedly poor recruiting the last few years by Tuberville, and then Chizik had a bad offseason, which may be expected coming into his first season. At least that is what I have heard from Auburn fans to explain their numbers.
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Auburn recruiting classes as ranked by Rivals.com.

2005: 13th
2006: 10th
2007: 7th
2008: 20th

2009: 19th

2008 was a slump year by Tuberville's standards but it's pretty ridiculous to say that he hadn't recruited well for the past few years. 2009 was going to be a top ten class until it was announced that Tuberville was run off, after which many recuits ran off too. I think the AUburn fans you are talking to are stout Chizik defenders. Not that there's anything wrong with that. I agree with the poster that observed that Chizik has been involved with successful teams and does know something about football and in fact could be a success. The same was true about Bill Lewis when we hired him.
 
The same was true about Bill Lewis when we hired him.
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I don't know what Lewis did before he was a HC, but at Wyoming and ECU, he was 34-33-2. He had been involved with one team with a winning record (out of six seasons) as a HC. Maybe he had been a great OC/DC somewhere, but if not, then I don't think the comparison with Chizik is accurate.
 
msm5 said:
I don't think two years at Iowa State is enough evidence to judge him by.
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GiveEmHellJackets said:
I agree with the poster that observed that Chizik has been involved with successful teams and does know something about football and in fact could be a success. The same was true about Bill Lewis when we hired him.
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Actually Chizik is kind of an inverse of that guy. Chizik had been a part of successful teams in the past but his recent years before being hired sucked.
B*** L**** did not have a winning season as a head coach until the year before we hired him, where he went 11-1 at ECU (fluke of the decade it would now seem). I think Chizik will get the standard 3-5 years to show results.
 
msm5 said:
I don't know what Lewis did before he was a HC, QUOTE]

I know what he was doing, the prick was chasing me down the field as we were kicking the living shat out of the nadlickers in 84'. That story is so funny I had to remind him who I was when he came here.
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You are right; there is no comparison. Bill Lewis, as a head coach, had won 11 of his last 12 games and was named AP Coach of the Year when we hired him. Gene Chizik was 2-10 (riding a ten game losing streak) and had never had a winning season as a head coach when Auburn hired him, and has a HC record of {drumroll please} 5-19. (Yes, that record is given in the traditional "W-L" format.) No comparison whatsoever.

EDIT: Keep in mind please that I am not defending or even remarking on the wisdom of the BL hire. (Who were the top canditates at the time? O'leary wanted that job, right?) My only point is that you can't necessarily tell, based on records, who is going to succeed and who isn't. I admit, and not TIC, that Chizik might have a great run at Auburn. Rich Rodriguez, who had a great W-L record, might have another crap-fest at Michigan. Spurrier had a great record when South Carolina hired him and he's getting ready for another crappy offensively impotent season.
 
Chizik may turn out great. Dabo Swinney may turn out great at Clemson. But it's certainly fair to question the wisdom of these hires, which were presumeably based on the character or persona of the individual more than their accomplishments as head coaches. It doesn't seem to me that the athletic directors of those programs needed to roll the dice on a head coach to the extent that they did.
 
I would like to know when ANY head coach that was 0-for his last ten games was actually hired away by a program at or even close to the prestige level of Auburn. Or when such a program hired a coach with a W-L percentage of .208.

If they hired him because of his "persona" then the decision is even more baffling. Check out his "persona" in action in this interview from April. Better drink a Red Bull if you want to stay awake through the whole thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu7DpJ093CY
 
You are right; there is no comparison. Bill Lewis, as a head coach, had won 11 of his last 12 games and was named AP Coach of the Year when we hired him. Gene Chizik was 2-10 (riding a ten game losing streak) and had never had a winning season as a head coach when Auburn hired him, and has a HC record of {drumroll please} 5-19. (Yes, that record is given in the traditional "W-L" format.) No comparison whatsoever.
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While this is true, I think that having one winning season in six years is worse than having no winning season in two years. Yes, Bill Lewis had a higher percentage of winning seasons than Chizik did, but Chizik's sample size is small. As I tried to point out in my first post, according to what I've read (I could probably dig it up somewhere), coaches in the Big 12/people who follow he Big 12 closely said that the team is vastly improved from when he took over. This may be akin to being the wealthiest person in Malawi, but it may also mean that he was one year away from showing progress when it comes to W-L. Remember that Mangino was considered to be on the hot seat before KU really got going.

Pretend that Iowa State improves this year (say a 5-7 record). Do we give Chizik credit for assembling the pieces, or do we say that Chizik was the one holding the team back?
 
2009 will be Auburn's 1994. Mark it down.

Over/under on how many games Chizik survives?
 
floridajacket said:
2009 will be Auburn's 1994. Mark it down.

Over/under on how many games Chizik survives?
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Honestly, I think it depends solely on the Alabama score. I think they win 4: Miss St, Furman, Ball St., and Lousy-ana Technical School.
I think he survives this year, barring a 51-7 type game to Bammer. The Tiger fans will point to their transition and Gus Malzahn putting in a new O.

This guy is like the anti-PJ. Buddying up to the players, not making them walk to the lockerroom, not making them hit(?!?!?!). Auburn is in deep crap, and they will be the softest team in the Esss, Eee, Ceee.
 
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