Clemson trick play

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So the play where the guy faked going off the field but stayed on - they are going to say that is legal now? But not so on our kicks??
 
Yeah, that was prety ridiculous. What's even more ridiculous is Kyle Parker couldn't throw a pass to the same wide open man for a 20 yard TD. If they actually scored on the play, it may have caused some talk by the ACC higher-ups. But it will go ignored because no one scored.
 
SMoney said:
So the play where the guy faked going off the field but stayed on - they are going to say that is legal now? But not so on our kicks??
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They didn't substitute anyone. We substituted ten players. That's the difference.
 
Maybe we should run it on them again in the ACCCG just to refresh Dabo's memory on how it's exactly done.
 
the rule is that you cant use tricks to fool the other team who is on the field. he acted like he was running off. then he stood there as if he was off the field with his hands on his hips. the ref is waving him off the field.. illegal in my book

exactly because it is deceitful. if he doesnt run off as fast, or doesnt act like hes on the sideline while standing there, or informs the ref so the ref isnt waving him off the field.. then it seems like it should be legal, but if the ref is waving the player off the field, that is confusing to the defense as to wherther the player is partly on the field or on as a player
 
BuzzCzar said:
the rule is that you cant use tricks to fool the other team who is on the field. he acted like he was running off. then he stood there as if he was off the field with his hands on his hips. the ref is waving him off the field.. illegal in my book

exactly because it is deceitful. if he doesnt run off as fast, or doesnt act like hes on the sideline while standing there, or informs the ref so the ref isnt waving him off the field.. then it seems like it should be legal, but if the ref is waving the player off the field, that is confusing to the defense as to wherther the player is partly on the field or on as a player
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Why do you think that is the rule? The rule is you cannot use the substitution process to trick or deceive your opponent. There were no substitutions occurring.

I agree it's cheap and both plays have the same sentiment, but I don't see how this one is against the rules.
 
gth816f said:
Why do you think that is the rule? The rule is you cannot use the substitution process to trick or deceive your opponent. There were no substitutions occurring.

I agree it's cheap and both plays have the same sentiment, but I don't see how this one is against the rules.
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you are using faking a substitution to trick the other team. i think if the interpretation is that you actually have to make a substitution is not true to the intent of the rule

the rule is to prevent trying to fool a team about who is on the field and who is not. they definitely did that. so, IMO, it should be illegal. they FAKED a substitution, by him running to the sideline and then acting like he was standing on the sideline
 
Go to any elementary school recess and most of the kids are making that pass. That was pretty ridiculous.
 
BuzzCzar said:
the rule is that you cant use tricks to fool the other team who is on the field. he acted like he was running off. then he stood there as if he was off the field with his hands on his hips. the ref is waving him off the field.. illegal in my book

exactly because it is deceitful. if he doesnt run off as fast, or doesnt act like hes on the sideline while standing there, or informs the ref so the ref isnt waving him off the field.. then it seems like it should be legal, but if the ref is waving the player off the field, that is confusing to the defense as to wherther the player is partly on the field or on as a player
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I agree with Czars interpretation. The fact that it looked like a substitution makes it fit the rule, another bad rule in my book.
 
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