CMR on the hot seat

CMR being on the proverbial "hot seat" is fantastic for us, because we know he's actually a pretty good coach (ok, he's better than pretty good). Our best shot at over-taking their spot rests solely on CPJ's shoulders. If we beat them this year (good possibility) and next, and certain things play out in our favor (4 losses next year) I could absolutely see Richt leaving Athens. We have to get him out of there, and pray Evans hires another Donnan/Goff.
 
I had honestly rather us beat a good georgie team than a bad one. It my hurt us in the long run if georgie starts to consistently suck.
 
Talked to a good friend of mine today who is a Georgie fan and you would think that Rome is burning. He thinks UT will run the score up on them if possible. I spoke up and told him if UT runs the score up on them w/ Crapton at QB, they should go ahead and forfeit the season. UT DOES have a good defense though. I can see them having a losing record for the season, though.
 
MidGABuzz said:
F$U ?? I thought that they didn't care for him when he left......course that was a long time ago.
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This is true. At least in some circles. I've got a buddy who's an F$U alum (yes, I keep ****ty company), and he said quite a few of them said "good riddance" to Richt when he left.
 
SkiJacket said:
This is true. At least in some circles. I've got a buddy who's an F$U alum (yes, I keep ****ty company), and he said quite a few of them said "good riddance" to Richt when he left.
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How have things worked out for them since he left? Can't think they like Jeffy any better.

I'm also not sure Richt has really underperformered, because UGA's recruiting championships are quite inflated. Just a hint: nobody buys more recruiting subscriptions than SEC fans and out of SEC fans, nobody buys more than UGA fans. That's the only reason Rivals ranked Calvin a 4*, he would have been one of the top 5 players in the nation if he committed to UGA.
 
this is a non issue at this point. Now if he loses to us this year and next it will become intense
 
floridajacket said:
How have things worked out for them since he left? Can't think they like Jeffy any better.
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I'm not saying they got rid of their problem and life was rosy. I think they would agree that things got worse after he left. I'm just saying, many of them weren't all that thrilled with him while he was there.
 
Allen Koholic said:
I'd give this article more weight and thought if it was written by someone other than Pat Forde, who is probably ESPN's worst college football writer. And that's saying alot.

Richt will get another season. He'll have to (sadly) fire Willy Martinez, but he'll get one more season. If UF lays the stick to them, and there's no reason to think that they won't, and we beat them again this season, then the heat will be on.
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1 more season? My ass, hell he'll get 5 or 10

Mark Richt isn't going anywhere. he's accomplished what few if any (other than Urban Meyer) has since 2000. He's an ambassador of the school, college sports, college coaches and the NCAA in general

he's a class act who (from what I've seen) act with dignity and integrity...the only thing I've questioned is the disciplining of his players (you know...the 1 or 2 game suspensions just prior to playing the big boys)

He's their new Vince Dooley...period. And he's there to stay for a long time to come. The only way I see him leaving is on his own (and I'm not talking about Phillip Fulmer or Tommy Bowden Style)

BUT YES....you can kiss Willie Martinez's ass goodbye after this year....and that's if they don't shoot him or ask for his release prior to the end of the season.

But Richt....won't happen. I think everyone on this board would take him in a New York Minute (If we didn't have CPJ)
 
floridajacket said:
How have things worked out for them since he left? Can't think they like Jeffy any better.

I'm also not sure Richt has really underperformered, because UGA's recruiting championships are quite inflated. Just a hint: nobody buys more recruiting subscriptions than SEC fans and out of SEC fans, nobody buys more than UGA fans. That's the only reason Rivals ranked Calvin a 4*, he would have been one of the top 5 players in the nation if he committed to UGA.
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Yeah, I have no idea how FSU fans felt about Richt when he left. But the experience SINCE he left both at FSU and UGA may have lead many critics to reconsider.
 
Donnan's UGAG record prior to Richt was...
1996: 5-6/3-5 (taking over for Goof, win over GT)
1997: 10-2/6-2 (win over GT)
1998: 9-3/6-2 (loss to GT, otherwise 10-2)
1999: 8-4/5-3 (loss to GT, otherwise 9-3)
2000: 8-4/5-3 (loss to GT, otherwise 9-3)

Richt's UGAG record...
2001: 8-4/5-3
2002: 13-1/7-1 (SEC Champ)
2003: 11-3/6-2
2004: 10-2/6-2
2005: 10-3/6-2 (SEC Champ)
2006: 9-4/4-4
2007: 11-2/6-2
2008: 10-3/6-2 (loss to GT)
2009: 3-2/2-1

Tossing out his first year, CJD was good for 8-9 wins (with a loss to GT) and 2-3 losses in conference. CJD was 2-3 against GT, 1-4 against UT, and 1-4 against Spurrier's UF.

Tossing out his first year and the high-low outliers, CMR is good for 10-11 wins (with an extra game, and a win over GT) and 2 losses in conference. CMR is 7-1 against GT, 5-3 against UT, and 2-6 against UF.

The difference between the two is not huge. Richt is , on average, 2 total wins and 1 SEC wins per year better.

CJD happened to coach against George O'Leary at GT, and Richt had the luxury of coaching against CCG. CJD coached against Spurrier's UF and Fulmer's UT teams at their peaks. Both won MNC's during his tenure and both were in his division. Additionally, GT was at its 50-year peak, too, winning an ACC championship during that period as well.

Clearly, CMR has made his difference against an extra cuppie due to the 12th game, a medicore GT under CCG, and a sinking UT program. He hasn't won a division since Urban Meyer's first year at UF. He won two SEC CG's prior to that time, and played in a third.

I don't think you can say yet that he is really any better coach than Donnan. He has had the good fortune of all three of his major rivals going through major transition during his tenure, as well as having a 12th game added to his schedule. Put him in Donnan's shoes and I'm not sure he fares any better.
 
That is a very good analysis.

Donnan<Fulmer/Cutcliffe
Donnan<OLeary/Fridge
Donnan<Spurrier

Richt>Gailey
Richt>Fulmer w/o Cutcliffe
Richt=Zook (at best?)
Richt<Meyer

Not as impressive when you think of it that way.
 
THWG_Nuff Said said:
1 more season? My ass, hell he'll get 5 or 10

Mark Richt isn't going anywhere. he's accomplished what few if any (other than Urban Meyer) has since 2000. He's an ambassador of the school, college sports, college coaches and the NCAA in general

he's a class act who (from what I've seen) act with dignity and integrity...the only thing I've questioned is the disciplining of his players (you know...the 1 or 2 game suspensions just prior to playing the big boys)

He's their new Vince Dooley...period. And he's there to stay for a long time to come. The only way I see him leaving is on his own (and I'm not talking about Phillip Fulmer or Tommy Bowden Style)

BUT YES....you can kiss Willie Martinez's ass goodbye after this year....and that's if they don't shoot him or ask for his release prior to the end of the season.

But Richt....won't happen. I think everyone on this board would take him in a New York Minute (If we didn't have CPJ)
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i agree the smart move is to keep him aboard for awhile because he has done a great job there and give him a chance to right his ship, but im hoping that the ignorant masses will rise up with pitchforks and dissatisfaction after a 5(maybe) loss season and make his job really difficult.. i really want what is happening @ f$u now to be happening at ugag
 
GTCrew said:
That is a very good analysis.

Donnan<Fulmer/Cutcliffe
Donnan<OLeary/Fridge
Donnan<Spurrier

Richt>Gailey
Richt>Fulmer w/o Cutcliffe
Richt=Zook (at best?)
Richt<Meyer

Not as impressive when you think of it that way.
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Plus, think of some of the other SEC coaches...

Donnan > Gerry DiNardo (LSU)
Donnan > Mike DuBose (Bama)
Donnan > Brad Scott (SC)

Richt < Les Miles
Richt < Nick Saban
Richt < Steve Spurrier

Some others (Nutt, Bobby Johnson) could be considered toss-ups.
 
That's a head scratcher. According to the article, UGa's offense sux donkey wangers. And we all keep hearing how inept Martinez is.

So, with all that, how have they not been out of any game they have played this year. Have they even been down more than by 14 at any point this season?

Something's not adding up. Either their offensive deficiencies are being exaggerated or Martinez isn't as bad as advertised. UGa is still a good football team. I'm not sure I understand all the obituary talk. They could go from now to the Tech game with only one more loss (to UF) and its not entirely out of the question for them not to lose again before Thanksgiving.

UGa isn't F$U - they are still the toughest team left on our schedule.
 
00Burdell said:
That's a head scratcher. According to the article, UGa's offense sux donkey wangers. And we all keep hearing how inept Martinez is.

So, with all that, how have they not been out of any game they have played this year. Have they even been down more than by 14 at any point this season?
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Personally I think it's their offense that is taking the more unjust critique. Their defense still isn't impressive.

Yes they are a good football team, however their competition hasn't been staggering. Okie St, fairly overrated to begin with, lost to Houston and hasn't played a decent team since, so that's all we got on them. South Carolina was a decent but not great team and that went down to the wire in a shoot out. Georgia had to score around 50 points to beat an Arkansas team that couldn't score more than 7 on Bama. How good LSU actually is will be revealed Sat.

Are they good? Yeah, but personally I think VPI beats em on a neutral site.

O, and lets not forget their fantastic 20-17-field-goal-as-time-runs-out win over Arizona St. That's a high quality team there.
 
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