COFH Ticket Distribution

BuzzCzar said:
Then don't expect a top-notch program
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That’s fine. I’ve never been somebody in here crying about “accepting mediocrity” or expecting that we will be better than “pretty good on average.”

I’m learning that there’s a limit to how far I’m willing to go to compete. It’s still probably higher than a lot of people - I donate money and show up to damn near every game we play. But while I buy a lot of tickets and travel a lot to support the team, and I’m willing to donate for scholarships and other stuff that GTAA provides, I’m not willing to donate to the tattoo fund of some mercenary 20-something who drives a nicer car than I do. Sorry, I’m just not going to do it. If I’m the reason we suck, I guess that’s how it is.

JRjr
 
think i'm gonna buy two in upper deck and give to my soon to be freshmen daughter as who knows what the student tix allocation will be for this game.
 
vapspwi said:
That’s fine. I’ve never been somebody in here crying about “accepting mediocrity” or expecting that we will be better than “pretty good on average.”

I’m learning that there’s a limit to how far I’m willing to go to compete. It’s still probably higher than a lot of people - I donate money and show up to damn near every game we play. But while I buy a lot of tickets and travel a lot to support the team, and I’m willing to donate for scholarships and other stuff that GTAA provides, I’m not willing to donate to the tattoo fund of some mercenary 20-something who drives a nicer car than I do. Sorry, I’m just not going to do it. If I’m the reason we suck, I guess that’s how it is.

JRjr
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So you’re the reason we suck, busted
 
vapspwi said:
So we sold a home game to MBS (or whoever is running the thing) for $10M. Presumably they feel like they can make that money back and more by charging extortionate ticket prices. Does Tech see any part of those ticket sales, or did we just take a flat $10M?

Even if we do get a cut of the ticket sales, how does that help with NIL - doesn’t that still have to be handled external to the athletic department? (If anything, paying $300 for one game ticket might reduce the amount of money somebody has to donate to NIL.)

I have plenty of money. I wouldn’t say that I’m cheap - I buy nice things and travel a lot and all that. But as much as I love GT football, we’re bumping up against what I’m willing to spend for one regular season football game. Especially when that game got cut out of our season ticket package and moved to another venue. Could I spend $300 without missing it? Certainly. Do I want to spend $300 to go to MBS and get barked at for 4 hours while we lose to the Dwags again? I’m not sure that I do.

JRjr
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I just don't know how to respond to this.

We sold the game because we needed to. We don't set the ticket prices.

If the cost is outside anyone's comfort zone then don't go. I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish by explaining that while you could easily afford tickets, you won't buy any to teach the GTAA a lesson.

I have a lot of respect for our fans who have to make hard choices before committing funds to our program. We need a bunch more of them.
 
gtg970g said:
I don't get the "It's to expensive" excuse. Sitting in the front of the 300 section isn't a bad seat and won't break the bank. Being buthurt that seats in "your section" are crazy expensive is lame. We need fans to show up no matter where they are sitting.
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Try living on a fixed income and still having to pay for Hurricane Helene damage and then get back to me. Yes, paying those prices will break the bank for me, and I am sure many other long-time Tech fans.
 
DinnerJacket said:
Cheapness really doesn't have anything to do with it. Well, maybe for some. My point, in MY case is, I'm getting to the point where I am looking at return on investment - something gaggers probably don't understand. But my question to you Czar, at what point? Surely there is some point at which even you will not buy a ticket. What is it, $500, $750, $1000, $5000. Where does it stop? That was my point. Some people have already said enough. I don't consider them cheap. The couple I know fly to Vegas EVERY year for her birthday. They go on at least two cruises a year, Just got back from a trip to DC. Yet, they have said enough. Maybe they prioritize Tech football less than you. I don't know. Yes, I'm old, but I still have ticket stubs from when it was $10 to see Tech play Duke. That's the difference in our fanbase, most of us know how to spend money, which is why we HAVE money.
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Pretty clear if you ask me @BuzzCzar
 
But you still won't answer my question what's YOUR limit? At what point do YOU become a cheapskate that you so easily toss around for those now?
 
DinnerJacket said:
But you still won't answer my question what's YOUR limit? At what point do YOU become a cheapskate that you so easily toss around for those now?
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You are talking to someone that doesn’t even go to games and probably has never bought season tickets save for a few fateful seasons in Section 222 or whatever it was.
 
00Burdell said:
I just don't know how to respond to this.

We sold the game because we needed to. We don't set the ticket prices.

If the cost is outside anyone's comfort zone then don't go. I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish by explaining that while you could easily afford tickets, you won't buy any to teach the GTAA a lesson.

I have a lot of respect for our fans who have to make hard choices before committing funds to our program. We need a bunch more of them.
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Well, you misread most of what I said.

I thought I was clear in my presumption that the ticket prices were set by whoever we sold the game to and not by the GTAA.

I recognize that we’re strapped for cash. It’s a sad state of affairs that we have to whore out a rivalry game in “the oldest and winningest D-I stadium” for a road game in an NFL stadium (but at least the hot dogs are cheap).

I said nothing about teaching the GTAA a lesson. All I said was that this confluence of events has, to my surprise, led to the discovery of a price I’m not willing to pay to watch Tech play football. (I’m not ruling out nosebleeds or aftermarket seats, but it’s a shame it’s come to that.)

JRjr
 
They paid us $10M and there's roughly 70k seats. That's more than $125/ticket they paid us. It has to be recouped somehow plus whatever margin they targeted and it isn't thru $50 tickets.

We laugh at the barking bastards, but most wouldn't blink an eye cashing in their $250 weekly Walmart paycheck for a seat.
 
Liberty said:
They paid us $10M and there's roughly 70k seats. That's more than $125/ticket they paid us. It has to be recouped somehow plus whatever margin they targeted and it isn't thru $50 tickets.
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73 posts before anyone thought to do this simple calc.
 
DinnerJacket said:
Are you going to answer my question?
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Liberty said:
They paid us $10M and there's roughly 70k seats. That's more than $125/ticket they paid us. It has to be recouped somehow plus whatever margin they targeted and it isn't thru $50 tickets.

We laugh at the barking bastards, but most wouldn't blink an eye cashing in their $250 weekly Walmart paycheck for a seat.
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I'm probably gonna have to sell my body (alive) to afford tix.

I was gonna sell my body (alive) anyway, but now I have a reason. Is craigslist still a thing?
 
Liberty said:
They paid us $10M and there's roughly 70k seats. That's more than $125/ticket they paid us. It has to be recouped somehow plus whatever margin they targeted and it isn't thru $50 tickets.

We laugh at the barking bastards, but most wouldn't blink an eye cashing in their $250 weekly Walmart paycheck for a seat.
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The math has been my question since this was announced. I hear a lot of people saying “we need the money” and “we’re getting $10M”. However, what’s the actual profit we gain over hosting this game at BDS? We sacrifice concessions, parking, extra ticket sales, etc. Plus how many extra season ticket packages do you sell to mutt fans that want access to that game? All of that needs to be reduced from the $10M and then what are you left with as actual profit to sell out this game, alienate many of your most loyal fans, and drive discontent throughout?

Keep in mind you’re also asking people to donate to the Full Steam Ahead initiative in parallel to this. People paying for premium seats at BDS are needing to pony up $10K per seat to maintain the same locations after the renovation. So a family of 4 is being asked to pay close to $50K to continue to sit where they have for years and get a comparable seat at a game that was stripped out of their season ticket package. I wouldn’t call those people cheap bastards.
 
GTBigBear said:
The math has been my question since this was announced. I hear a lot of people saying “we need the money” and “we’re getting $10M”. However, what’s the actual profit we gain over hosting this game at BDS? We sacrifice concessions, parking, extra ticket sales, etc. Plus how many extra season ticket packages do you sell to mutt fans that want access to that game? All of that needs to be reduced from the $10M and then what are you left with as actual profit to sell out this game, alienate many of your most loyal fans, and drive discontent throughout?

Keep in mind you’re also asking people to donate to the Full Steam Ahead initiative in parallel to this. People paying for premium seats at BDS are needing to pony up $10K per seat to maintain the same locations after the renovation. So a family of 4 is being asked to pay close to $50K to continue to sit where they have for years and get a comparable seat at a game that was stripped out of their season ticket package. I wouldn’t call those people cheap bastards.
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I'm not a fan of the Benz, but we're cash strapped. I get the decision. This is all back of the napkin math:

Last data I know of we had $10.1M in football ticket sales, I think it's up to about $12M now. That's about $1.7-$2.0M/game. Assuming the mutt game is 3x which is pretty ric assumption, that's $6M. Let's say we make $1M on everything else that's $7M.

Our base season ticket price is $390, that's $65/ea. 20k tix at $65/ea is $1.3M. Based on that an average game plus extra for mutts is 2 + 1.3, giving you $3.3M. Add in $1M parking and concessions, that's $4.3M.

We're likely clearing between $3-5M extra from playing the game at the Benz, likely closer to the $5M, roughly 40-50% extra of an average season's revenue by eating this deal.
 
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