Collins to Alabama?

Olgoldandwhie said:
My prediction: the next two head coaches at Bama get fired for not winning the NC.
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This is why I think they will need to plug in someone (or maybe 3) before Dabo would consider it. The Bama fan base would be completely insufferable to begin with. They need to wander in the wilderness for a while after Saban before they will appreciate anyone or any level of success, no matter how high.
 
Saban is so good. Not necessarily ethical, but one of the best there’s even been at playing this game to win. It’s the best job in the country, but most likely they will take a step back no matter who gets it.

I very much look forward to 3+ loss Alabama teams again...as long as UGA never accounts for one of those losses.
 
txsting said:
It's very much up in the air to this point as to whether Collins and his staff can actually coach. Everything else has been off the charts excellent. Way premature discussion. We're going to face adversity this year, how are we going to handle it? Will they play hard for him regardless of circumstance? Will the X's and O's look good, and will the coaches manage a good game? All remains to be seen.
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Using this metric, it seems they can coach. Someone made a composite chart of what they call "Wins per talent score." Essentially, they divided each teams number of wins by the composite 24/7 talent score of that team. They then ranked each team from each conference by talent score, then "wins per talent score" to show which teams basically overperformed their talent level. Temple consistently played above their talent level the years CGC and his staff were coaching. I think he's assembled an even better staff here than he had there.

https://public.tableau.com/shared/W...nt=yes&:origin=viz_share_link&:showVizHome=no
 
JoeCakeEater said:
I very much look forward to 3+ loss Alabama teams again...as long as UGA never accounts for one of those losses.
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This is key! I don't want Bama to take a step down after Saban even if it means a weaker ACC due to Clemson loosing Dabo. Maybe the SEC East can get their act together before Saban retires but I don't want to count on that.
 
GoGATech said:
Using this metric, it seems they can coach. Someone made a composite chart of what they call "Wins per talent score." Essentially, they divided each teams number of wins by the composite 24/7 talent score of that team. They then ranked each team from each conference by talent score, then "wins per talent score" to show which teams basically overperformed their talent level. Temple consistently played above their talent level the years CGC and his staff were coaching. I think he's assembled an even better staff here than he had there.

https://public.tableau.com/shared/W...nt=yes&:origin=viz_share_link&:showVizHome=no
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That's a cool link, thanks. I could put some stock into that type of analysis. GT, as expected, looks pretty good on that metric too. But look at WF? Think maybe someone should hire Dave Clawson?? Crazy good job he has done.
 
txsting said:
That's a cool link, thanks. I could put some stock into that type of analysis. GT, as expected, looks pretty good on that metric too. But look at WF? Think maybe someone should hire Dave Clawson?? Crazy good job he has done.
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Take a look at Navy as well. Always seem to exceedingly overperform.
 
txsting said:
That's a cool link, thanks. I could put some stock into that type of analysis. GT, as expected, looks pretty good on that metric too. But look at WF? Think maybe someone should hire Dave Clawson?? Crazy good job he has done.
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It is the big long term question about Collins and the staff. If he can continue what he has done in this off-season and build slightly on it: recruiting, strength & conditioning, player motivation, etc; then I think for sure Tech can/will maintain what we have been in the recent past: above .500 team that can win the division once in awhile.

If we are going to be better than that, then we will have to out coach most teams we play. If you do a poor job, then coaches in this league and the SEC will eat you alive. If we can hold our own against the best coaches and win most of the others, then we will win a lot of games, which will help recruiting and take us to another level.
 
If Dabo is smart he dies and is buried in Death Valley where he is a do-no-wrong god. The best he can do at Bama is not screw it up. At Climpsun, he is the godfather of the program as people know it, and even with their recent track record, from what I can tell there is no elitist feeling from the fan base it is there god given right to be in the position they are in forever as there is with BAMA, OSU, ND, ect. He could go from being in the playoffs every year to once every 3 years and they wouldn't run him out of town, they will just name more stuff after him. Not the case for Bama. I think any desire from playing at Bama has to be overshadowed by tending to what he has created at Climpun.
 
EastboundJacket said:
I was listening to Finebaum yesterday (I know, I know) and he briefly mentioned Collins as a potential Saban replacement at Alabama along with Kirby and Pruitt. Obviously, that's a long shot, but the fact that he's even in that conversation is pretty astounding.

Thoughts?
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if he's in the conversation, we're probably a Top 10 team, so I hope he is
 
RamblinWreck27 said:
If Dabo is smart he dies and is buried in Death Valley where he is a do-no-wrong god. The best he can do at Bama is not screw it up. At Climpsun, he is the godfather of the program as people know it, and even with their recent track record, from what I can tell there is no elitist feeling from the fan base it is there god given right to be in the position they are in forever as there is with BAMA, OSU, ND, ect. He could go from being in the playoffs every year to once every 3 years and they wouldn't run him out of town, they will just name more stuff after him. Not the case for Bama. I think any desire from playing at Bama has to be overshadowed by tending to what he has created at Climpun.
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Agree wholeheartedly..... if the UpState ever breaks away from South Carolina, it'll be named Daboland.

An interesting twist to this thread might be where would Clem's Son look for Dabo's replacement when/if he ever leaves. Their Big Three - Frank Howard, Danny Ford (MNC in 1981, the year after Ugag), and Dabo were Bammers first..... Charley Pell was the lone Bammer who didn't stay long enough before going to Florida (& leaving Clem's Son on 2 yrs probation).

Is Brent Venables Clem's Son's version of Bud Foster, a highly paid DC but never to be the HFC heir-apparent? Or would one of their co-OCs be HFC heir-apparent?

Just something for a summer Sunday morning down south a coupla weeks before "Game Week"......
 
txsting said:
That's a cool link, thanks. I could put some stock into that type of analysis. GT, as expected, looks pretty good on that metric too. But look at WF? Think maybe someone should hire Dave Clawson?? Crazy good job he has done.
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And on the other end is FSU. Ouch.
 
Can not imagine any amount of money that would make a lot of the “Hot” coaches, when the time arrives, want to replace Saban.

I think the next BIG job opening might be Michigan ( depending on this year perhaps). And I think they might be willing to throw Saban type $ for the hire.
 
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