murrayjacket
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I still feel like the next move for conferences will be voting members out. Vandy is just stealing money at this point that Alabama and the top SEC teams earned.We all know the ACC is lame, but it's probably best for us (and everyone except Clemson and FSU) if it survives intact a few more years. Not convinced we would land anywhere we would want to be if it collapsed today. So, I am all for expanding it and trying to compete with the Big 12 for #3. Invest in the program, start winning and putting ourselves in a good position.
That's good news.
May it be good or bad news, your haste for the ACC to implode is negative for Tech in general.That's good news.
I'm not looking for the ACC to implode and I don't think it actually will. But I don't like the direction it's going in. I think Stanford and Cal are terrible candidates for the conference and I don't think ND should have a say in it unless they join the conference in all sports. They should keep their mouths shut. I sympathize with FSU's argument that the TV deals have created an unfair advantage for teams in the SEC and BIG10. I think the ACC leadership sucks and I think it has been poorly run for a long time.May it be good or bad news, your haste for the ACC to implode is negative for Tech in general.
I agree. And who knows? When time to renew the main two conferences, how much money is still there. Still an easier road to the CFB PO than the BIG or SEC.We all know the ACC is lame, but it's probably best for us (and everyone except Clemson and FSU) if it survives intact a few more years. Not convinced we would land anywhere we would want to be if it collapsed today. So, I am all for expanding it and trying to compete with the Big 12 for #3. Invest in the program, start winning and putting ourselves in a good position.
Your entire post = death to GT footballAppalachian State, Georgia Southern, South Florida, Memphis, Tulane, East Carolina, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, Old Dominion, Louisiana, Georgia State, Louisiana Tech, Western Kentucky. All regional programs, some with excellent academics, many on the rise and suitable for consideration.
The ACC already missed on Central Florida, Cincinnati, and West Virginia which would have been great regional additions and easy adds.
TV market thinking with highly restrictive academic qualifications led to adding programs like BC and Syracuse which are football poison. The idea of adding Cal and Stanford is football suicide.
this. if acc now adding west coast teams, its not the acc anymore. if you could get FSU and clem to agree to stay on, dissolve the acc, boot the GOR, and start adding any team that will boost price of a new media contract. pick best teams left over from pac and big12, the west virginia, ucf, and utahs of the world. cut cuse and other bottom feeders. create a third super conference. would still be behind acc and big, but would at least be in a better spot than us and all of those schools are in now. since money apparently the only thing that matters anymore, this the way to do it without getting into sec or big.It sounds like a pretty bad contract when the ACC can add new members and still keep FSU bound to the GOR contract. I would think a new contract would need to be negotiated to add new teams, or at least every school has a veto.
Fine. You're the commissioner of the ACC. Give us your vision to keep this tub of sh*t floating and a realistic, viable path forward to relevance.Your entire post = death to GT football
Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, South Florida, Memphis, Tulane, East Carolina, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, Old Dominion, Louisiana, Georgia State, Louisiana Tech, Western Kentucky. All regional programs, some with excellent academics, many on the rise and suitable for consideration.
The ACC already missed on Central Florida, Cincinnati, and West Virginia which would have been great regional additions and easy adds.
TV market thinking with highly restrictive academic qualifications led to adding programs like BC and Syracuse which are football poison. The idea of adding Cal and Stanford is football suicide.
Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, South Florida, Memphis, Tulane, East Carolina, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, Old Dominion, Louisiana, Georgia State, Louisiana Tech, Western Kentucky. All regional programs, some with excellent academics, many on the rise and suitable for consideration.
The ACC already missed on Central Florida, Cincinnati, and West Virginia which would have been great regional additions and easy adds.
TV market thinking with highly restrictive academic qualifications led to adding programs like BC and Syracuse which are football poison. The idea of adding Cal and Stanford is football suicide.
Appalachian State, Georgia Southern, South Florida, Memphis, Tulane, East Carolina, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, Old Dominion, Louisiana, Georgia State, Louisiana Tech, Western Kentucky. All regional programs, some with excellent academics, many on the rise and suitable for consideration.
Am I missing the joke here?
I agree with a lot of your other takes on expansion, but adding any of those teams is the ACC signaling it is ready to be a group of 5 (of whatever it is called) conference.
Let me add, that all the ACC has to do is wake up football programs FSU, Miami, GT, VPI and hope that UL and Pitt start winning OOC games too. There was a time that on paper, the ACC had put together the best football conference but Miami quit trying, VPI and FSU fell apart post long time coaches and leadership ruined GT.