Expansion

[LongforDodd]

They now post aircraft emissions data on flights? Good lord, take me now!

 

[ScionOfSouthland]

The Atlantic California Conference is expansion by charity. More mouths to feed on this lock in that goes interminably into the future. SEC and B1G will have finalized their expansion plans and renegotiated contracts for the new league. Do Stanford, Cal, and SMU get voting rights in this deal where they fork over revenue? If not, would not be surprised to see FSU and Clemson capitalize on this deal knowing it accelerates their exit out of this conference.

 

[MidnightJacket]

They now post aircraft emissions data on flights? Good lord, take me now!

I hear using the sort feature to book by emissions is even more popular than PHub these days for liberal men.

 

[aeromech]

The Atlantic California Conference is expansion by charity. More mouths to feed on this lock in that goes interminably into the future. SEC and B1G will have finalized their expansion plans and renegotiated contracts for the new league. Do Stanford, Cal, and SMU get voting rights in this deal where they fork over revenue? If not, would not be surprised to see FSU and Clemson capitalize on this deal knowing it accelerates their exit out of this conference.

ACC whiffed and then fell asleep on the expansion competition, now it is just desperate to get the best of the rest. Picking up Calford is a little better than picking up Syracuse & BC though. Hopefully this deal comes with a stronger commit from ND.

 

[juraitwaluzka]

I'm just thinking about how bad it is for non-revenue sports. Think about baseball - 1pm Sunday first pitch West Coast, finish by 4pm, get to the airport at 6pm for a 7pm takeoff, 3am or so landing in ATL on Monday morning. Back to campus at 4am, get 3 hours of sleep for that 8am class.

Yep, good point.

 

[stinger78]

ACC whiffed and then fell asleep on the expansion competition, now it is just desperate to get the best of the rest. Picking up Calford is a little better than picking up Syracuse & BC though. Hopefully this deal comes with a stronger commit from ND.

The biggest flub was extending the contract/GOR to 2036. The SEC/B1G will be out of the upcoming contract and into their next one by then!

Such are the things that insecure conferences do, those who must focus on keeping teams in rather than keeping teams out.

 

[JJacket]

I remember that he was medically definitely cleared to play if needed, he is easily my least favorite GT player in recent memory

Yep. Abandoned his teammates mid-game. They still played hard, all of them - Donate was running hard and when the tackle was unavoidable, delivering punishment

 

[aeromech]

The biggest flub was extending the contract/GOR to 2036. The SEC/B1G will be out of the upcoming contract and into their next one by then!

Such are the things that insecure conferences do, those who must focus on keeping teams in rather than keeping teams out.

The GOR was big flub for GT, FSU, Clemson, UNC, UVA and Miami to sign it. It was brilliant for WFU, Duke, NCState and others to get it to pass.

 

[GTLiebs]

The GOR was big flub for GT, FSU, Clemson, UNC, UVA and Miami to sign it. It was brilliant for WFU, Duke, NCState and others to get it to pass.

GOR wasn't that big a deal; didn't Big 12 have it when Texas/OU left? The issue was the duration as he said. The huge cost of leaving is cause there's still a whopping 13 years remaining on the contract to buy out of (while Texas/OU only had to buy out of 1 year). For comparison, the amount of time on the combined SEC and Big 10 contracts starting up is 17 years.

The ACC basically started assuming it was going to fall apart 7 years ago, so they decided to try and put off what happened to the Pac 12 (and lesser extent Big 12) as long as they could get away with. Instead they probably just create a new way of falling apart that leaves everyone involved worse off.

 

[smokey_wasp]

No meeting tonight

 

[GoBees]

No meeting tonight

FSU grad?

 

[USCJacket]

I don't blame him for leaving.

I blame him for quitting in his last two games at Tech. Just like I blame Sims. I will root for them to fail everywhere they go.

Yeah which is a bitter loser mindset to root for anyone to fail. Coaches have no loyalty to SA’s, so why should SA’s?

 

[BigDanT]

How does this make financial sense once the new teams start taking full 40 mil/year shares?

The hope is in 6 years the bubble has burst and there is less of a gap. I could see the SEC getting capped at 50 per school at the next go around. These TV networks are not for long

 

[ClubSeats]

Possible vote tonight

Gonna need a new name for the conference. They should sell the rights to KIA. Profit.

 

[madRazor]

Gonna need a new name for the conference. They should sell the rights to KIA. Profit.

"We are the Krispy Kreme Konference!"

 

[RoanokeJacket]

Yeah which is a bitter loser mindset to root for anyone to fail. Coaches have no loyalty to SA’s, so why should SA’s?

How about stepping over his dying body if we happen to be climbing Everest on the same day?

 

[1982Jacket]

but how does opposing it gain leverage to get out? so far all signs point to you can't leave the acc without financial suicide.

If they manage to blow up the ACC, there is no GOR. Maybe get the rest of the schools to agree to disband the ACC, and then some of them can reconstitute as a new conference with a lot of the same members, but also with new ones like SMU, UCal and Stanford, and without some others like FSU, Clem's Son and UNC.

Or at a minimum, maybe they hold adding new members hostage until the rest of the schools agree to unequal revenue split with more money to FSU and Clem's Son (in addition to the already-agreed-to performance based unequal sharing)..

 

[1982Jacket]

Yeah which is a bitter loser mindset to root for anyone to fail. Coaches have no loyalty to SA’s, so why should SA’s?

Do coaches quit in the middle of the season?

I mean, besides this universally despised intern-humping scumbag.

 

[aeromech]

GOR wasn't that big a deal; didn't Big 12 have it when Texas/OU left? The issue was the duration as he said. The huge cost of leaving is cause there's still a whopping 13 years remaining on the contract to buy out of (while Texas/OU only had to buy out of 1 year). For comparison, the amount of time on the combined SEC and Big 10 contracts starting up is 17 years.

The ACC basically started assuming it was going to fall apart 7 years ago, so they decided to try and put off what happened to the Pac 12 (and lesser extent Big 12) as long as they could get away with. Instead they probably just create a new way of falling apart that leaves everyone involved worse off.

The main reason for a GOR is to keep teams from moving up to a better situation. When Maryland was willing to pay the previous buyout the ACC GOR grew to what we have now. The GOR is great for the lesser teams in the ACC, else they would be in the same boat as Washington State and Oregon State find themselves now. The GOR is bad for teams who could likely move to a better situation. If the PAC 12 had a GOR like the ACC it would probably still exist.

 

[WracerX]

The main reason for a GOR is to keep teams from moving up to a better situation. When Maryland was willing to pay the previous buyout the ACC GOR grew to what we have now. The GOR is great for the lesser teams in the ACC, else they would be in the same boat as Washington State and Oregon State find themselves now. The GOR is bad for teams who could likely move to a better situation. If the PAC 12 had a GOR like the ACC it would probably still exist.

With a GOR wouldn’t have helped the PAC. UCLA and USC left when the contract was being renegotiated. Then the schools got a lower than expected offer and more schools bolted.

The GOR just makes everything happen at once.