Not 20+ years.This. Florida State seems further away from being decent than Miami ever has on their 20+ year journey to Back.
Jesus. Feels like that was decades ago now. Calvin had only just learned to walk and jump and rip the soul out of Clemson fans while the ripping was good.Not 20+ years.
They won the BCS National Championship in the 2002 Rose Bowl. But for a really horrible call in the 2003 Fiesta Bowl, Miami would have beaten OSU for back-to-back undefeated seasons and BCS National Championships. They beat the Semiholes in the 2004 Orange Bowl and finished 11-2 and ranked 5th overall. It was after that the wheels started to come off the bus. So more like 16/17 years max.
You may be right that they aren't coming back; but your reasoning is wrong. Florida, Miami, and Alabama were winning National Championships when FSU rose into prominence. Auburn was having very good seasons, and LSU was very competitive. UCF didn't exist and MSU and Ole Miss barely existed though. Bowden was recruiting against the likes of Steve Spurrier, Gene Stallings, Jimmy Johnson, Galen Hall, .... Jimbo Fisher had to recruit against Urban Meyer, Les Miles, and Nick Saban. FSU definitely has issues now; but it isn't because they suddenly find themselves having to compete for players for the first time.FSU is not going back to "old FSU levels." They cannot get the players they used to get competing against strong Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Florida and Miami programs (which are all strong now), not to mention decent UCF, Auburn and Mississippi programs. Except Miami and sometimes Auburn and Florida, these programs (especially Alabama) were not the same during the FSU glory days, they don't have the great Bobby Bowden, and there is NOTHING appealing about Tallahassee. I see a lot of 8-4, with some 7-5 and 9-3.
That is funny. FSU is a national football brand. VT is not even in the same universe. FSU will make it back because they care to make it back and have zero standards. They just need the right coach and a real QB.I see similarities between Bowden and Beamer's legacy.
They are rapidly approaching the time when most kids being recruited won't remember them being good. So they can build back just like us or Illinois or USC or Nebraska or anybody else who was good before they were bron.Anyone who doesn’t think FSU won’t be back in the CFB playoff conversation in 5-10 years is kidding themselves. Every program Bama included has good times, bad times. FSU is 2x more likely to be a NC contender within the next 10 years than we are because of their nonexistent academic program and much more $ devoted to their athletic program. That’s the truth. But by all means, drink the juice and bash the post.
Crablegs was dancing around only six years ago. I think it's too soon to be saying they're irrelevant to kidsThey are rapidly approaching the time when most kids being recruited won't remember them being good. So they can build back just like us or Illinois or USC or Nebraska or anybody else who was good before they were bron.