Florida State Seminoles are good but the Georgia Bulldogs are great so Tech had

MsTechAnalysis, I completely agree with you about posters calling into question who each other are fans of etc. Yes, rational game analyses should be welcomed by all, and that day will likely come AFTER we are winning again. Now for slj's drivel above...that is NOT breaking a game down. He simply takes the position that because WE (the non worthy), actually got the best of fsu on the field but not the scoreboard (as has happened now 3 times of late)..that fsu can't possibly be any good, which is nothing more than a gross discounting of how good WE may actually be. Sat. should answer a lot of questions. THWG
 
Originally posted by statelinejacket:
Great effort on Techs part. But the second half gameplan and playcalling was strictly BYU all over again. And I don't believe we are overmatched talent wise. As for Reshaun Grant I have not seen anywhere where it is stated he is not ready. All I saw posted anywhere was VAGUE rumors of injury....but nothing official. Also where is Damarius Bilbo? If you can shed some light on these subjects I appreciate it.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Everytime a run is stuffed it is a bad playcall? Everytime a missed block leads to a sack it is a bad playcall? We scored more in the second half than the first and didn't do more because we didn't execute, Reggie was pressured like crazy is that bad playcalling? Or good defense? You are just another person who looks at the result to determine good call or bad not factoring the executuion of the play itself.
 
Originally posted by statelinejacket:
Great effort on Techs part. But the second half gameplan and playcalling was strictly BYU all over again. And I don't believe we are overmatched talent wise. As for Reshaun Grant I have not seen anywhere where it is stated he is not ready. All I saw posted anywhere was VAGUE rumors of injury....but nothing official. Also where is Damarius Bilbo? If you can shed some light on these subjects I appreciate it.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">I can't really comment on the play-calling in the second half, since I was a bit inebreated (why dont I just say Drunk, I can spell that) and don't remember specifics about it. On Bilbo, I can't commit on that either since I haven't heard (though I will ask on the Gailey call-in show).

But, I can speculate with the best of em
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I'm certain his being a QB all his life and never running routes or catching passes in a game has something to do with him not being in the game. I was hoping he'd get in the game because he is such a physical asset, but I can only assume the players we are playing with gives us the best chance to win. I hope Bilbo becomes a great WR, but just being physically gifted never made a football player.

And, I'm seriously confused why you don't think we're not over-matched talent-wise.
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Originally posted by GoldZ:
MsTechAnalysis, I completely agree with you about posters calling into question who each other are fans of etc. Yes, rational game analyses should be welcomed by all, and that day will likely come AFTER we are winning again. Now for slj's drivel above...that is NOT breaking a game down. He simply takes the position that because WE (the non worthy), actually got the best of fsu on the field but not the scoreboard (as has happened now 3 times of late)..that fsu can't possibly be any good, which is nothing more than a gross discounting of how good WE may actually be. Sat. should answer a lot of questions. THWG
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Sorry Ms.Tech but GoldZ is right. This not an analysis but a statement.....this is not the Seminoles of a few years back....of Coach Richt and Coach Amato as well as Bobby Bowden. This is a bunch that has lost NINE times the past two years. This is not the national championship contender we are use to seeing every year. Those days maybe over for a while.
 
Originally posted by GoldZ:
MsTechAnalysis, I completely agree with you about posters calling into question who each other are fans of etc. Yes, rational game analyses should be welcomed by all, and that day will likely come AFTER we are winning again. Now for slj's drivel above...that is NOT breaking a game down. He simply takes the position that because WE (the non worthy), actually got the best of fsu on the field but not the scoreboard (as has happened now 3 times of late)..that fsu can't possibly be any good, which is nothing more than a gross discounting of how good WE may actually be. Sat. should answer a lot of questions. THWG
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Don't you think the 24 pt. underdog roll for GT was due more to what has happened to us in the off season then FSU being back? I thought of it more that way.

They haven't changed that much since last season and WE SHOULD HAVE BEAT THEM HERE. Matter-of-fact, they are rebuilding their OL and Rix at QB is because McPherson is gone. Rix would not have been the starter if McPherson hadn't had the off field problems.

We have a new QB who's a FR and lost 10 players to academics ...that to me was WHY we were big underdogs not because FSU suddenly got that much better in 9 months.
 
BS Mrs TA. FSU was a 24 point favorite because they beat UNC 37 -0 and beat Maryland 35 - 10. The fact that they were a 24pt favorite was almost entirely due to their performace thus far this year
 
I can't wait for F$U to beat Miami and prove how smart you are. By the way the team that supposedly killed F$U last sugar bowl only up 7 going into the 4th w/ a 3rd string converted wr as their qb...Awesome victory statedawg...i mean dawgline...oops....i meant stateline-Is that correct
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I don't give a crap about moral victories. I want the win just the same. BUT CAN"T WE GET OVER THE I HATE CHAN crap.
StateDawg. Good luck and maybe if you have a good season you can enjoy new orleans and the sugar.
As for ME! IT"S WHITE AND GOLD
GO JACKETS!
 
stateline, you don't think FSU is very good, I disagree. I saw them completely dismantle MD and until I have proof otherwise I do honestly believe they have more talent than we do. Aren't you one of the ones who complains about how we never recruit any 4-5 stars? Well they do. Therefore the MUST be better than us, right?

And MsTA, I've taken the pledge to not reply to any of your posts. I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't direct any messages to me.
 
MsTA, my post was in response to the position that well, fsu can't be any good if WE the lowly YJ's almost beat them...as opposed to the pregame 24 point spread. ok?
 
Can't wait for UGAg's annual choke at UF. Hopefully, we'll see a repeat of 1994 (52-14) or MAYBE 1995 (52-17) or MAYBE 1996 (47-7) or MAYBE 1998 (38-7). UF has averaged 36 against UGAg since 1990, go Gators and give 'em hell Tech.
 
Folks,
For those that can't appreciate the effort and even the results given SAT nite,I feel sorry for you.
AND-for those who don't see that that that game could have been won by some tweaking,check the tape.
 
Many random thoughts, but all related to this thread:
1) Tech lost because of depth and half-time adjustments by FSU...PERIOD! We won the first half because we out executed them. In the beginning of the second half, they went to more stunts and immediately got pressure on Reggie. If you look at the game (& I've watched it 3 times now) you will see that the pass patterns that we hit in the first half were predominately 8 - 17 yards down field. In the 2nd half, by the time the receivers got that far, Reggie was running to escape pressure. Also, on the 2 FSU scoring drives, I can show you 7 plays where Daryl Smith or Keyaron Fox were running at what appears to be 1/2 to 3/4 speed...not because they weren't trying because you could tell they were giving their all...but because they were just plain out of gas. FSU was running 2 and 3 deep at those positions...depth got us.

2. stateline, before you annoint UGA as the greatest thing since sliced bread, you might want to go back and look at that MTSU game. MTSU was winning that game until right before half time. Now, I happen to know personally from hearing it first-hand that Andy McCollum (MTSU's head coach) thinks that this year's team has less talent than his last 2 teams has. So, Ga has beaten SC, Clemson, and MTSU...look at the stats...NOT ONE OF THEM could score in a Mexican cathouse! (SC scored against UVA because of all the interceptions by Matt Schaub's replacement at QB). Georgia will play their first true test this weekend and, IMHO, LSU really isn't all that good either.

3. FSU is good. I will gladly go on record right now to say that FSU will beat Florida handily but struggle with Miami. If they get out of the Miami game with a win, they go undefeated through the regular season.

4. I'll also predict for you that Florida will again beat UGA...because they can score.

5. This Tech team played with more heart than any other team I have seen since the game in 1990 where Tech upseat Virginia 41 - 38 in Charlottesville. Not only was this team not intimidated by FSU, this team was talking smack after each good play. I have not, to this point, been a FOC...but count me on the bandwagon now. Chan, you da man! Keep em playing hard...as this team gets experience, they are going to be fun to watch and a team to reckon with!
 
Many random thoughts, but all related to this thread:
1) Tech lost because of depth and half-time adjustments by FSU...PERIOD! We won the first half because we out executed them. In the beginning of the second half, they went to more stunts and immediately got pressure on Reggie. If you look at the game (& I've watched it 3 times now) you will see that the pass patterns that we hit in the first half were predominately 8 - 17 yards down field. In the 2nd half, by the time the receivers got that far, Reggie was running to escape pressure. Also, on the 2 FSU scoring drives, I can show you 7 plays where Daryl Smith or Keyaron Fox were running at what appears to be 1/2 to 3/4 speed...not because they weren't trying because you could tell they were giving their all...but because they were just plain out of gas. FSU was running 2 and 3 deep at those positions...depth got us.

2. stateline, before you annoint UGA as the greatest thing since sliced bread, you might want to go back and look at that MTSU game. MTSU was winning that game until right before half time. Now, I happen to know personally from hearing it first-hand that Andy McCollum (MTSU's head coach) thinks that this year's team has less talent than his last 2 teams has. So, Ga has beaten SC, Clemson, and MTSU...look at the stats...NOT ONE OF THEM could score in a Mexican cathouse! (SC scored against UVA because of all the interceptions by Matt Schaub's replacement at QB). Georgia will play their first true test this weekend and, IMHO, LSU really isn't all that good either.

3. FSU is good. I will gladly go on record right now to say that FSU will beat Florida handily but struggle with Miami. If they get out of the Miami game with a win, they go undefeated through the regular season.

4. I'll also predict for you that Florida will again beat UGA...because they can score.

5. This Tech team played with more heart than any other team I have seen since the game in 1990 where Tech upseat Virginia 41 - 38 in Charlottesville. Not only was this team not intimidated by FSU, this team was talking smack after each good play. I have not, to this point, been a FOC...but count me on the bandwagon now. Chan, you da man! Keep em playing hard...as this team gets experience, they are going to be fun to watch and a team to reckon with!
 
I find it curious that a lot of posters in this thread were calling Maryland overrated when the lost to N. Ill. and NOW posters are coming on here and using FSU's win over Maryland as TO WHY they believe they are back and bad???!!

Maryland under Ralph has YET to beat FSU just like GT. Seems as though some GT fans here are trying to adjust week to week to satisfy their "whys" as to the outcome of each game GT plays and loses. Losing to a team who was better then you on that day is easy to swallow, but on Sat. we were the better team and that's not easy to swallow!

NC is one of the weaker teams in the ACC and FSU beating them 30+-0 proved it. FSU still gains a LOT of its high rankings from it's previous long time positive history. GT's underdog roll here had more to do with US and what happened last season then FSU being their old self again.

Recently, posters here were talking about the ACC overall being weaker then the prognosticators believed with the losses by VA, NC State and Maryland early in the season. FSU is still the team to beat but as in the last couple of years - they are NOT WHAT THEY USE TO BE!

GT like last season should have won this game - PERIOD!
 
The ugag game is a long time away and a lot can happen between now and then. It really doesn't seem worth discussing 3 games into the season since by the time it's played, polack could be their starting qb and Nat Dorsey could be ours. Come game day, it won't matter if ugag held C. W. Post to 2 TD's and we beat Slippery Rock by 8. What will matter is what players are available to play FOR THAT GAME and who is better prepared THAT WEEK (which is still a long way off). This week is clemmons.
 
Originally posted by statelinejacket:
best get its ass in gear! Offensively to be more specific for two halves of football. Georgia would have kicked the ass of this F$U team in much the way it did in last years Sugar Bowl. Folks I posted a few days ago wandering about how good the Seminoles really are and now I can honestly say they are not title contenders this year. Their offense is better than Auburns but not by much. Their defense is very good of course, but just a smidgen better than ours. Our offense sucks even if Reggie Ball is impressive or not. Florida States just sucks a little less than ours, thats all. That damn BYU gameplan needs to be burned! Georgia is no F$U people. They are a far better bunch because they have an offense their asskicking defense can be proud of. The Seminoles are not back so we should not be patting ourselves on our backs but we should start wandering about this offense. Where is Demarius Bilbo and Reshaun Grant?!!!! They are not not on any injured list...just the wasting away on the bench list! This five and dime offense is dragging a terrific effort so far this year by the defense down into the dumps. Speaking of dumps what is it with the special teams tackling. We gave up far to much ground on kick offs and punts! That needs attention also. All an all I can say this was no moral victory. An A plus effort on defense means we should have won this game, just like last year. Chris Rix and Greg Jones have been exposed by our defense as mediocre at best. But Chan Gailey's and the offensive staff's efforts on that side of the ball are being exposed also. We stand a very good chance of winning the rest of our games because of that defense....right up to when Georgia comes to town. Holding Georgia under thirty points will be extremely difficult if our offensive staff does not get its ass in gear. Thats far better than last year of course but that still would mean we lose by four touchdowns.
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Interesting. I just checked my schedule and the Klempsun game is still on Saturday.
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I usually do not reply on here, but you, my friend, need to wake up. I did not even read but the first three lines of your post & scan the rest. FSU would beat UGA handily. Your post does not really even warrant a response & I am ashamed of myself really. Greg Jones is mediocre? Surely you jest.
 
I think a lot of you are missing some key points:

1. FSU pounded their first two opponents, a couple of pretty decent teams or at least teams expected to be half ways decent (Maryland and UNC). Yet GT stoped FSU cold as 14 total points suggests. That's a tremendous defensive effort against a very good offensive football team.

2. GT scored 13 on FSU and might have won the game if a freshman hadn't tried to do what ALL FRESHMAN do at some point, force a ball where he shouldn't have.

3. I read a few posts that seemd to knock GT because of it's performance against a BYU team that some still seem to regard lightly. The fact is, that BYU team shut down two of the best offenses in the nation (USC and New Mexico). Yes SC scored 35 points, but in a horribly misleading fashon. Realistically only one of those TD's was off of a long "penalty aided" 80 yard drive. The next longest drive was 56 yards and included 2 15 yard penalties on BYU so SC did squat against the Cougars. The highlight of ther team was their punter. Their last TD came off a non-fumble fumble on the BYU 6 yard line. BYU outgained USC by 70 yards and were it not for 4 plays would have handily won that game. There isn't going to be one moment of shame for losing to a BYU team that at this point is pretty good. New Mexico scored 100 points and averaged 570 Yards TO in it's first two games, barely mustered 312 yards and 7 against BYU. BYU has just lost it's QB (broken finger) and will start a freshman against Stanford this week so they have some growing up to so now also. Now they may go in the tank, but till this week that is one good team. No shame in losing to them!

4. I said GT's defense was exceptional and some of you aren't believers yet. OK so they lost, but I said they could keep the game close with a chance to win in the fourth quarter and I was right. GT is a damn fine football team in the making and there is a lot of grass between now and the Georgia game. Worry about next week and the dogs will come baying at the moon soon enough! You win next week and forget what Georgia does between now and then. My guess is TECH will be good enough to defeat the Purena eaters if they just keep a PMA and win. FSU WAS the toughest game on their schedule until then! As Al Davis says, just win baby, win. Tech can do that.

5. Defense, defense, defense... GT has a great one... Give that offense time to grow up for gosh sakes and this is going to be an excellent team come November.
 
Originally posted by GoldZ:
MsTA, my post was in response to the position that well, fsu can't be any good if WE the lowly YJ's almost beat them...as opposed to the pregame 24 point spread. ok?
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<font size="2" face="Arial, Verdana, Sans-Serif">Is that what you and some others think? How wrong could you be! Reading Comp. classes should be require before becoming a member of this board. Especially the idiot who is calling me a Dawgs fan. Let me tell you and everyone else this: The effort was inspiring! But my position is that the Seminoles are a good team that will have to be carried by its defense in close games. They are in the same boat as us in that regard. The Seminoles are not a great team and we do have a great team on our schecule....Georgia. Coach Gailey has to rethink how he is running his offense. Folks our offense has scored 3 touchdowns. And all 3 touchdowns was scored off turnovers. Capatalizing off turnovers is great but we have got to score touchdowns off some sustained drives. I'll stop this drivel and see what we do when Clemson comes to town Saturday.
 
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