For the Many who seemed to have Jumped Ship

Maybe jumped from the "light years ahead" ship to the "holy crap, we've got a lot to fix" ship.
 
GT fans all jumped ship in the 70's. We have a pretty good fanbase that has stuck with GT through the years. I honestly never see us approaching the popularity of Clemson or FSU.

FSU is a popular even though it is a pain in the rear (and expensive) to travel and have a game weekend in Tallahassee.

I'll never jump ship. 43 years as a GT fan.
 
BeerNutts said:
Totally disagree.

For anyone who's played sports before, especially football, you know this is a part of it. It's never discussed, but you can feel it.

The week leading up to big games, practice is crisper, everyone is jacked, and it's not surprise you play well those weeks.

Then there's the week you're playing po-dunk-ville, and you're not as crisp, you're not as pumped, and you don't play as well.

This stuff happens, alot. There is such a thing as a "trap" game, and USC just experienced it.

You think Washington has anything near the athletes USC does? Hell no, but they played up ,and USC played down, and Washington won.

It happens. It's not a myth.
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Finally, another who knows the game and by all indication has played. Well said sir!!!

Case in point....Garner Webb....ring a bell???

I'd bet that we were already lookin' forward to DeathValley and those Mullets in Purple. Anyone who's played the game or sports in general knows all about it. It's too easy to do and while I don't like that it happens I totally understand how it has and does happen.

Motivation (or lack there of) had a lot to do with it. And so did fatigue and quite frankly conditioning for one. You can't say "fatigue is an excuse" because all of us on here have "ZERO" clue about what's going on and what it takes to compete at this level in this day and age. Athletes are bigger, stronger, etc and it happens. But, fatigue was just a contributing factor and not the sole reason.

If CPJ does his job, and I'm quite sure he has and is, then we'll be fine and I think you'll see a renewed focus on the flats beginning this week. Hopefully the team leaders have takin' it on the chin and rallied the troops in almost a "Tebow'esque" manner

Let's go jackets....bust their ass
 
gth816f said:
I believe that Miami had this on their minds for a long time. I also believe that if our team can't get motivated for a nationally televised Thursday night game that would have put us in the top 10, we should just not show up to the rest of the games. You're not going to get a bigger game for us all season than that one, at least in terms of the team's success. That was a HUGE game for whoever won it, and I think you are sorely mistaken if the players weren't acutely aware of that, ESPECIALLY after they supposedly weren't motivated or "let their foot off the gas" for the first two games.
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No offense but that's an ignorant statement. You find out what you're made of as a team after a beating. Florida did it last year, and like it or not, they whipped ass outscoring their opponents 469 - 131. Very impressive since 6 of those teams were "ranked, and everyone just loves to be ranked" and 2 of which were #1 at the time

Just because the outcome didn't turn out in our favor doesn't mean that they were UNAWARE of the magnitude of the game last Thursday.

I don't think you can argue this....but by all means I'm all ears
 
THWG_Nuff Said said:
No offense but that's an ignorant statement. You find out what you're made of as a team after a beating. Florida did it last year, and like it or not, they whipped ass outscoring their opponents 469 - 131. Very impressive since 6 of those teams were "ranked, and everyone just loves to be ranked" and 2 of which were #1 at the time

Just because the outcome didn't turn out in our favor doesn't mean that they were UNAWARE of the magnitude of the game last Thursday.

I don't think you can argue this....but by all means I'm all ears
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That's what I'm saying. I think they were perfectly aware of the magnitude of Thursday's game, and they weren't lacking any motivation. Especially because, yeah, we beat JSU and Clemson, but remember what they all said after those games about how they needed to stay focused and keep their foot on the gas? So not only did they know it was a big game, but staying focused and motivated was a point of emphasis leading up to it.

They may have found out what they were made of Thursday(although I think UNC will tell us more than that), and a loss can wake you up, but I don't think anything that happened was a result of lack of motivation or focus. I think they were plenty motivated and focused.
 
How many have jumped ship?

To those who have jumped ship...

I like it. We are barely into the second season of CPJ's tenure and we have already gotten to the point where we lose one game and everyone is asking "What's WRONG?!?!"

One season + three games and just look where the bar is now. Pretty impressive if you ask me.

Jump ship? Go ahead. Your seats won't be there when you decide to change your mind.
 
gth816f said:
That's what I'm saying. I think they were perfectly aware of the magnitude of Thursday's game, and they weren't lacking any motivation. Especially because, yeah, we beat JSU and Clemson, but remember what they all said after those games about how they needed to stay focused and keep their foot on the gas? So not only did they know it was a big game, but staying focused and motivated was a point of emphasis leading up to it.

They may have found out what they were made of Thursday(although I think UNC will tell us more than that), and a loss can wake you up, but I don't think anything that happened was a result of lack of motivation or focus. I think they were plenty motivated and focused.
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My apologies...it thought you were arguing th opposite
 
00Burdell said:
How many have jumped ship?

To those who have jumped ship...

I like it. We are barely into the second season of CPJ's tenure and we have already gotten to the point where we lose one game and everyone is asking "What's WRONG?!?!"

One season + three games and just look where the bar is now. Pretty impressive if you ask me.

Jump ship? Go ahead. Your seats won't be there when you decide to change your mind.
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Awesome response. If anything, the cryout/fallout/whatever after last Thursday shows where we are now as a Football Program. When was the last time Everyone went ape**** because of a lost 3 games in.

Well said Burdell.

Go Jackets
 
gth816f said:
That's what I'm saying. I think they were perfectly aware of the magnitude of Thursday's game, and they weren't lacking any motivation. Especially because, yeah, we beat JSU and Clemson, but remember what they all said after those games about how they needed to stay focused and keep their foot on the gas? So not only did they know it was a big game, but staying focused and motivated was a point of emphasis leading up to it.

They may have found out what they were made of Thursday(although I think UNC will tell us more than that), and a loss can wake you up, but I don't think anything that happened was a result of lack of motivation or focus. I think they were plenty motivated and focused.
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I get what you're saying, but no team that is focused makes the mistakes we did. I don't know what the problem was, but as a whole the team was not mentally in the game.
 
Football is such a challenging sport it is rare to find the team that does not have off weeks - some because of a lack of emotion and some because of weak preparation and/or execution. To win 11 or 12 games you have to be lucky and get by on your bad days and be at peak performance at the right time.

Last year Gardner-Webb, LSU, and UVA after the first quarter were our low moments. We got away with one of those and got blown out in the bowl game and lost one we should not have lost against UVA.

In 1990 we were pretty bad at UNC and at home against Va Tech. We got a tie and a win scoring only 6 points against a mediocre VPI if memory seres correct. We were at our best at the right times - Clemson, UVA, UGA, and Nebraska.
 
ncjacket said:
I get what you're saying, but no team that is focused makes the mistakes we did. I don't know what the problem was, but as a whole the team was not mentally in the game.
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I don't necessarily agree with that either. You can make mistakes even when your 100% focused. Sometimes the outcome is due to the counter of the opponent which may magnify the small hiccups to make them look like huge mistakes.

What particular mistakes are you referring to?

We looked great coming out of the gate, however we came to a screeching hault. Was it neccessarily all on the O or was a lot of it due to the well played assignment defensive package that they threw at us
 
77GTFan said:
Football is such a challenging sport it is rare to find the team that does not have off weeks - some because of a lack of emotion and some because of weak preparation and/or execution. To win 11 or 12 games you have to be lucky and get by on your bad days and be at peak performance at the right time.

Last year Gardner-Webb, LSU, and UVA after the first quarter were our low moments. We got away with one of those and got blown out in the bowl game and lost one we should not have lost against UVA.

In 1990 we were pretty bad at UNC and at home against Va Tech. We got a tie and a win scoring only 6 points against a mediocre VPI if memory seres correct. We were at our best at the right times - Clemson, UVA, UGA, and Nebraska.
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You're dead on with that.
I don't think that a lot of people realize that. You can't play perfect for 48 qtrs...it's damn near impossible.

Think about some of those other teams that have had Nat'l Championship Seasons and or go undefeated: Nebraska with the tip against Mizzu is one that I immediately remember

At the end of the day all you can do is bare down and execute your gameplan. Just because things don't turn out the way you anticipate may not be due to your lack of effort or execution, but instead by your opponents counter attack. The good teams adjust an run with it. And I think we're doing that more than people realize.

Bottom Line, there are really only 2 things that have kept us from executing our game plan: Blocking and D Line push and penetration. Both of which's lack of execution can fall on the other teams better counter or play
 
wesleyd21 said:
Looking back on it, I felt a Miami win over FSU meant a Miami win over us.

Look back at last year. Miami is at home playing their first Thursday night game. They were something like 1-0 or 2-0. I had never seen them look so good. They thought they were back and believed it. I think they KILLED N.C. State, iirc.

Great post. That is why I usually pull for the team we are getting ready to play to lose. Miami after a win at Tallahassee is much stronger than Miami after a loss to the 'Noles. And, though we beat Clemson, their 27-0 run against us shook our confidence. I think if we had not given up the long passes and had beaten Clemson about 38-7 we would have been a more confident team against the 'Canes.
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I still hold that the weirdass Thursday to Thursday schedule threw our team for a lopp, making everybody play out of sorts. Traveling also always screws up schedules and adds to the general stress of the team.

UNC's a good team and I'm not positive that we'll have a big victory against them with our defense. But mark it down, we will look a lot better and get a lot more of those big runs we've come to expect.
 
THWG_Nuff Said said:
I don't necessarily agree with that either. You can make mistakes even when your 100% focused. Sometimes the outcome is due to the counter of the opponent which may magnify the small hiccups to make them look like huge mistakes.

What particular mistakes are you referring to?

We looked great coming out of the gate, however we came to a screeching hault. Was it neccessarily all on the O or was a lot of it due to the well played assignment defensive package that they threw at us
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I'm not talking about getting beat on a block, I'm talking about blown assignments, 10 illegal procedure penalties (or however many there were), etc. That's just not having your head in the game and recognizing what's going on. Getting beat by another guy is a different matter. You hate to see it, but sometimes the other guy makes plays.
 
THWG_Nuff Said said:
Was it neccessarily all on the O or was a lot of it due to the well played assignment defensive package that they threw at us
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it was all on their O shredding our D and us not being able to force a punt in the first half. they did punt once but only b/c they didn't want to give us a short field with only a minute or two minutes left in the half.

a score at the end of the half would/could have changed momentum, therefore, the only reason they even needed to punt in the first half.
 
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