Game Recap from a 1 time/yr attendee

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THWUGA

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Spent the day at GT with my son. We come down once a year for a game together. That was rough.

1) our OL is just terrible. They are slow, weak, don’t seem to know their assignments, and they don’t play with any energy. They seem like a major weakness on tv but watching in person was eye popping. I went to school during Key’s time here and I appreciate him as an alum but I don’t see any coaching evidence with this group.

2) what exactly was Thacker watching? The 3 points at the end of the half were on him entirely. We are not nearly talented enough in the secondary to rush 3 and give even a crap QB like Burmeister all that time.

3) our secondary is bad I’m not sure I can blame Thacker. Between burton and our head coach, you’d think we wouldn’t suck so hard. Clearly we have guys here who shouldn’t be on a D1 field. Sorry but Oliver and King are not even serviceable backups

4) I wouldn’t blame Gibbs and Sims if they left. They are both in a different talent universe. Gibbs fortunately will have his NFL shot regardless. when Sims has any time at all, the kid is great to watch. Throws and runs so well.

5) Pnode was bailed out by Sims and McGowan on that 1st half TD in the north endzone. His 2nd and 3rd down calls were putrid. He repeatedly tried to best VT to the edge and it was never working.I don’t know why he’s calling screens with this team’s talent level. Coordinator wise, it was GT’s worst game in my memory.

6) for a head coach with special teams and secondary emphasis, don’t we especially suck in those areas?

7) man, it’s sad to see where attendance has fallen. Our fans just don’t care to show up anymore, and who can blame them? If I lived local and it’s a noon rainy game, I probably stay home too rather than see this product on the field

8) the reunion donations to the academic school really put our revenue issues within the athletic association in perspective. $70mm raised this year from 50, 30 and 25 year reunion classes. Check out our endowment, and compare it per capita to other schools. Then look at our athletic donations, and I think you’ll see where the priorities lie
 
THWUGA said:
Spent the day at GT with my son. We come down once a year for a game together. That was rough.

1) our OL is just terrible. They are slow, weak, don’t seem to know their assignments, and they don’t play with any energy. They seem like a major weakness on tv but watching in person was eye popping. I went to school during Key’s time here and I appreciate him as an alum but I don’t see any coaching evidence with this group.

2) what exactly was Thacker watching? The 3 points at the end of the half were on him entirely. We are not nearly talented enough in the secondary to rush 3 and give even a crap QB like Burmeister all that time.

3) our secondary is bad I’m not sure I can blame Thacker. Between burton and our head coach, you’d think we wouldn’t suck so hard. Clearly we have guys here who shouldn’t be on a D1 field. Sorry but Oliver and King are not even serviceable backups

4) I wouldn’t blame Gibbs and Sims if they left. They are both in a different talent universe. Gibbs fortunately will have his NFL shot regardless. when Sims has any time at all, the kid is great to watch. Throws and runs so well.

5) Pnode was bailed out by Sims and McGowan on that 1st half TD in the north endzone. His 2nd and 3rd down calls were putrid. He repeatedly tried to best VT to the edge and it was never working.I don’t know why he’s calling screens with this team’s talent level. Coordinator wise, it was GT’s worst game in my memory.

6) for a head coach with special teams and secondary emphasis, don’t we especially suck in those areas?

7) man, it’s sad to see where attendance has fallen. Our fans just don’t care to show up anymore, and who can blame them? If I lived local and it’s a noon rainy game, I probably stay home too rather than see this product on the field

8) the reunion donations to the academic school really put our revenue issues within the athletic association in perspective. $70mm raised this year from 50, 30 and 25 year reunion classes. Check out our endowment, and compare it per capita to other schools. Then look at our athletic donations, and I think you’ll see where the priorities lie
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Our entire OL looked horrible. One play, #60 left the player he was blocking to go find someone else to block (I guess that is what he was doing). The player he WAS blocking made the tackle. #77 was good at helping our guy up after his missed block led to a tackle. The other side of the line was no better. They looked slow and weak. Terribly slow. The decent runs we had seemed to be in spite if the OL, not due to it. Just Sims and Gibbs being superior athletes.
 
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Our entire OL looked horrible. One play, #60 left the player he was blocking to go find someone else to block (I guess that is what he was doing). The player he WAS blocking made the tackle. #77 was good at helping our guy up after his missed block led to a tackle. The other side of the line was no better. They looked slow and weak. Terribly slow. The decent runs we had seemed to be in spite if the OL, not due to it. Just Sims and Gibbs being superior athletes.
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Gibbs' big run, the one where the turf monster got him, they came with a blitz and somehow we managed to sniff it out and wash everything down, leaving a huge crease for Gibbs.
But mostly the OL just looks ... bad.

yes, this is where the transition was going to be the toughest. That was a given. But even Key, buried deep in an AJC article a couple of years ago, noted how much football the linemen they inherited had played and how that does count for a lot.
But the more this group plays, the worse it gets.
 
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Gibbs' big run, the one where the turf monster got him, they came with a blitz and somehow we managed to sniff it out and wash everything down, leaving a huge crease for Gibbs.
But mostly the OL just looks ... bad.

yes, this is where the transition was going to be the toughest. That was a given. But even Key, buried deep in an AJC article a couple of years ago, noted how much football the linemen they inherited had played and how that does count for a lot.
But the more this group plays, the worse it gets.
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3 years is plenty of time to build an effective OL....not a great one, but at least a good one. Key hasn't done that
 
Forgot something else - we have a play that’s kind of a wheel route where I think Gibbs lines up in the slot and goes in motion back towards the QB, then goes up the seam. He was wiiiide open but Sims only had about a nanosecond before pressure got to him.

I kept waiting for it to be called again because the play was great if we happen to give Sims a little time. But it never was.
 
I hate our OL. 70%+ of offensive plays looks like keystone cops because at least one OL has no idea what to do on any given play. The don’t run block well. They don’t pass block well. They just suck. Bad OL play is the main reason why our offense is putrid. There’s really no excuse other than piss poor coaching for o linemen to repeatedly miss their assignments like we see week after week.

I also hate our defensive secondary and coordinator, but that’s a separate post.
 
THWUGA said:
Spent the day at GT with my son. We come down once a year for a game together. That was rough.

1) our OL is just terrible. They are slow, weak, don’t seem to know their assignments, and they don’t play with any energy. They seem like a major weakness on tv but watching in person was eye popping. I went to school during Key’s time here and I appreciate him as an alum but I don’t see any coaching evidence with this group.

2) what exactly was Thacker watching? The 3 points at the end of the half were on him entirely. We are not nearly talented enough in the secondary to rush 3 and give even a crap QB like Burmeister all that time.

3) our secondary is bad I’m not sure I can blame Thacker. Between burton and our head coach, you’d think we wouldn’t suck so hard. Clearly we have guys here who shouldn’t be on a D1 field. Sorry but Oliver and King are not even serviceable backups

4) I wouldn’t blame Gibbs and Sims if they left. They are both in a different talent universe. Gibbs fortunately will have his NFL shot regardless. when Sims has any time at all, the kid is great to watch. Throws and runs so well.

5) Pnode was bailed out by Sims and McGowan on that 1st half TD in the north endzone. His 2nd and 3rd down calls were putrid. He repeatedly tried to best VT to the edge and it was never working.I don’t know why he’s calling screens with this team’s talent level. Coordinator wise, it was GT’s worst game in my memory.

6) for a head coach with special teams and secondary emphasis, don’t we especially suck in those areas?

7) man, it’s sad to see where attendance has fallen. Our fans just don’t care to show up anymore, and who can blame them? If I lived local and it’s a noon rainy game, I probably stay home too rather than see this product on the field

8) the reunion donations to the academic school really put our revenue issues within the athletic association in perspective. $70mm raised this year from 50, 30 and 25 year reunion classes. Check out our endowment, and compare it per capita to other schools. Then look at our athletic donations, and I think you’ll see where the priorities lie
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There is certainly one of those that we as fans can actively help correct. I bet if the whiny little girls on this board would go to the games instead of sitting on their couches eating Cheetos we could get #7 fixed.
 
GTRules said:
There is certainly one of those that we as fans can actively help correct. I bet if the whiny little girls on this board would go to the games instead of sitting on their couches eating Cheetos we could get #7 fixed.
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good luck doing that with the endless string of noon games. Game times need to be set at the start of the year so everyone can plan accordingly. This one week notice of game time where 90% of them are nooners kills the ability to plan and travel.
 
savbandjacket said:
good luck doing that with the endless string of noon games. Game times need to be set at the start of the year so everyone can plan accordingly. This one week notice of game time where 90% of them are nooners kills the ability to plan and travel.
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TV determines the game times. Schools don’t control that. But people can still go to the games.
 
I don't think noon games are the reason people aren't showing up. It is the product on the field period. Noon games actually work better for people coming from 4-5 hours away, you can go to the game and get back home without driving in the dark or renting a hotel room. I guess nooners are tough for parents who have kids playing soccer in the morning; but I don't know what percentage of fans that is.
 
aeromech said:
I don't think noon games are the reason people aren't showing up. It is the product on the field period. Noon games actually work better for people coming from 4-5 hours away, you can go to the game and get back home without driving in the dark or renting a hotel room. I guess nooners are tough for parents who have kids playing soccer in the morning; but I don't know what percentage of fans that is.
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Noon games make for a long ass day. It’s leaving around 6 if you want to get there in time for any pregame festivities. But you’re right that product plays into it too. öööö level play combined with inconvenient time makes for little motivation to go through the trouble and expense.
 
cicada said:
I found it funny when the goof-ball PA announcer would yell Money Down, everyone in the stands just sat there. I don't have the voice to be a PA announcer, but if they kept making me yell money down, I would either refuse or walk away.
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where did they get that clown? 1st and 15, gain 7 yds now 2nd and 8. Says it’s a 2 yd gain. Missed 1st downs repeatedly. Could not even have done a HS game before.
 
It all comes down to the product on the field. If we were good noon games would be packed. And of course, if we were good we wouldn’t be playing many noon games. Yesterday there were times everyone was just existing. The place was dead. That’s what this team deserves when you can’t do the basics like cover 3 wide receivers at the same time or keep your QB from getting mauled at the snap. The team reaps what they sow.
 
cicada said:
I found it funny when the goof-ball PA announcer would yell Money Down, everyone in the stands just sat there. I don't have the voice to be a PA announcer, but if they kept making me yell money down, I would either refuse or walk away.
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See my other post from yesterday. Cgc throws a tantrum when he doesn't
 
That game was miserable. I sit right next to the club seats in 127 and my section was FULL of VPI fans other than my 2 and another 2 that sit in front of me.

Was surrounded by people not remotely watching the game - two VPI women in front of me were talking about roof repair or something for the whole first half, but thankfully left at halftime.

Had a student sitting with his friend and out of town family next to me - occupying half my seat (I finally just sat on him at one point) and talking about nothing but Penn State, Pitt, Ohio State, the Phillies, the Steelers, European soccer, etc. Just terrible.

Not that there was a lot to cheer for, but the crowd was DEAD. Nobody singing the fight song, nobody yelling for defense, half-hearted cheering for the ‘90 team, getting out-cheered by a bunch of hillbillies who came to town to check out that “indoor outhouse” they’ve heard about.

We’re approaching an event horizon of suck that we’re not going to be able to get out of. If we don’t show some signs of life soon, we’re gonna be Duke with a bigger stadium. It’s sad to watch.

JRjr
 
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