Game Recap from a 1 time/yr attendee

I hate our OL. 70%+ of offensive plays looks like keystone cops because at least one OL has no idea what to do on any given play. The don’t run block well. They don’t pass block well. They just suck. Bad OL play is the main reason why our offense is putrid. There’s really no excuse other than piss poor coaching for o linemen to repeatedly miss their assignments like we see week after week.

I also hate our defensive secondary and coordinator, but that’s a separate post.
This is why I’ve given Patenaude some praise because sometimes he actually does a good job gameplanning and calling the right plays, but the OLine just completely folds. It’s hard to scheme around an OLine that can’t keep the QB safe against a 3 man pass rush. Sims has no time to throw and the RB’s have to constantly dodge defenders deep in the backfield.
 
It all comes down to the product on the field. If we were good noon games would be packed. And of course, if we were good we wouldn’t be playing many noon games. Yesterday there were times everyone was just existing. The place was dead. That’s what this team deserves when you can’t do the basics like cover 3 wide receivers at the same time or keep your QB from getting mauled at the snap. The team reaps what they sow.
Materially demonstrated after our failed 4th down conversion late in the game when CGC ran over to the North endzone trying to get the students into it for the defense. Loudest the crowd was all day. Defense promptly gave up a 9 yard run up the middle and that was that.
 
I found it funny when the goof-ball PA announcer would yell Money Down, everyone in the stands just sat there. I don't have the voice to be a PA announcer, but if they kept making me yell money down, I would either refuse or walk away.
Money Down would be fantastic if we had UGA's defense. As it is, it just reminds the opposing offense "oh yeah, we need a first down".

It will be humiliating to hear that during the UGAg game if things get out of hand, which is likely.
 
And what was that damn play where all the OL turned 90 degrees? What the hell was that?
 
Materially demonstrated after our failed 4th down conversion late in the game when CGC ran over to the North endzone trying to get the students into it for the defense. Loudest the crowd was all day. Defense promptly gave up a 9 yard run up the middle and that was that.

I felt bad when the D was backed up against the Wardlaw Center and Tre Swilling tried to get the lower west and south end zone to make some noise. At that point, I could totally understand the players saying “F it, what am I doing this for?” when there’s no crowd support.

(But by the same token, I can kind of understand the crowd checking out when we get repeatedly dragged up and down the field by a mediocre VPI team, too.)

JRjr
 
Money Down would be fantastic if we had UGA's defense. As it is, it just reminds the opposing offense "oh yeah, we need a first down".

It will be humiliating to hear that during the UGAg game if things get out of hand, which is likely.
Given how inconsistent it is, there have to be qualifiers for money down v just 3rd down. I think score proximity is probably one of the criteria.
 
Money Down would be fantastic if we had UGA's defense. As it is, it just reminds the opposing offense "oh yeah, we need a first down".

It will be humiliating to hear that during the UGAg game if things get out of hand, which is likely.
The Money Down thing should be a thing that originates after you already have a great defense. Similar to the Black Watch in the 80’s. It’s something that’s earned, not given.
 
That game was miserable. I sit right next to the club seats in 127 and my section was FULL of VPI fans other than my 2 and another 2 that sit in front of me.

Was surrounded by people not remotely watching the game - two VPI women in front of me were talking about roof repair or something for the whole first half, but thankfully left at halftime.

Had a student sitting with his friend and out of town family next to me - occupying half my seat (I finally just sat on him at one point) and talking about nothing but Penn State, Pitt, Ohio State, the Phillies, the Steelers, European soccer, etc. Just terrible.

Not that there was a lot to cheer for, but the crowd was DEAD. Nobody singing the fight song, nobody yelling for defense, half-hearted cheering for the ‘90 team, getting out-cheered by a bunch of hillbillies who came to town to check out that “indoor outhouse” they’ve heard about.

We’re approaching an event horizon of suck that we’re not going to be able to get out of. If we don’t show some signs of life soon, we’re gonna be Duke with a bigger stadium. It’s sad to watch.

JRjr
damn that's depressing. the truth hurts.
 
Materially demonstrated after our failed 4th down conversion late in the game when CGC ran over to the North endzone trying to get the students into it for the defense. Loudest the crowd was all day. Defense promptly gave up a 9 yard run up the middle and that was that.
I saw that, Collins should be careful with that. My son is a student and was sitting right behind the goal post and he said that Collins came and went so fast and he was lucky he did because he probably would have gotten some #1 signs. Bobby Dodd is going to be red in 3 weeks. The fans are not the problem. The play between 60:00 and 0:00 is. I had planned a nice little trip to Miami at the end of this week. Going to St. Pete instead now. I can watch our DB’s get burned and mean mug from there.
 
Money Down would be fantastic if we had UGA's defense. As it is, it just reminds the opposing offense "oh yeah, we need a first down".

It will be humiliating to hear that during the UGAg game if things get out of hand, which is likely.

UGA will never get to 3rd down. We will force turnovers on 1st and 2nd downs.
 
I saw that, Collins should be careful with that. My son is a student and was sitting right behind the goal post and he said that Collins came and went so fast and he was lucky he did because he probably would have gotten some #1 signs. Bobby Dodd is going to be red in 3 weeks. The fans are not the problem. The play between 60:00 and 0:00 is. I had planned a nice little trip to Miami at the end of this week. Going to St. Pete instead now. I can watch our DB’s get burned and mean mug from there.
And I hope all that red is gone by mid 4th of a GT blowout.
 
UGA will never get to 3rd down. We will force turnovers on 1st and 2nd downs.
Over under on us even attempting to cover that 6'7" TE they have is 0. I'd be surprised if we cover him once.
 
This is why I’ve given Patenaude some praise because sometimes he actually does a good job gameplanning and calling the right plays, but the OLine just completely folds. It’s hard to scheme around an OLine that can’t keep the QB safe against a 3 man pass rush. Sims has no time to throw and the RB’s have to constantly dodge defenders deep in the backfield.

It is looking to me that, in Tech speak, Ptude's offense requires knowledge of DiffEq, and these players hadn't had Trig when he came onboard. Rather than take them through Trig, then Calc to get to DiffEq, he's expecting them to pick up DiffEq on the fly. Recall a few times under CPJ when he went to a subset of plays that were simpler under the OL figured it out.
 
I watched the game this morning. Some thoughts:

- We are not being effective with our practice time. I don't think we're still running the chaotic practices we first heard about, but whatever we're doing isn't working based on the amount of missed assignments.
- TE position continues to be useless. Not good enough blocking, not effective receivers
- Our OL is maddeningly inconsistent. We would seal the edge well on one play and then let free runners go the next. I think the worst play by far was the Sims fumble. Our best OL had a down DE lined up on his outside shoulder and he just flat didn't block him. What the hell was he looking at?!?!?
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- On defense, we aren't maintaining our rush lanes and are not capable of playing zone coverage. Basically every running play by their QB was a LB or DL going rogue and abandoning their assignment. If there are 80 plays in the game and you get 3 sacks, you're a dominant defender. The reason for this isn't that you get beat all the time, it's that your primary goal should be to maintain your lane for the defense to work. Sometimes that means you do a good job and don't get a sack. Do we teach our kids this concept? öööö
- Honestly, just play man coverage or bench the guys who are letting receivers get behind them to play someone else's assignment. öööö
- Tackle. öööö
 
Ok. So I'm also a one game per year guy and initially chose the Pitt game but b/c reasons had to change to VPI. Not sorry I missed the Pitt game (although I never miss a game on TV).

I've had season tix for 40 years. It keeps me connected to the program. But I can realistically only make one in person.

To be brutally honest, the overall experience yesterday was just not up to par.

I have some decisions to make between now and March.
 
I watched the game this morning. Some thoughts:

- We are not being effective with our practice time. I don't think we're still running the chaotic practices we first heard about, but whatever we're doing isn't working based on the amount of missed assignments.
- TE position continues to be useless. Not good enough blocking, not effective receivers
- Our OL is maddeningly inconsistent. We would seal the edge well on one play and then let free runners go the next. I think the worst play by far was the Sims fumble. Our best OL had a down DE lined up on his outside shoulder and he just flat didn't block him. What the hell was he looking at?!?!?
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- On defense, we aren't maintaining our rush lanes and are not capable of playing zone coverage. Basically every running play by their QB was a LB or DL going rogue and abandoning their assignment. If there are 80 plays in the game and you get 3 sacks, you're a dominant defender. The reason for this isn't that you get beat all the time, it's that your primary goal should be to maintain your lane for the defense to work. Sometimes that means you do a good job and don't get a sack. Do we teach our kids this concept? öööö
- Honestly, just play man coverage or bench the guys who are letting receivers get behind them to play someone else's assignment. öööö
- Tackle. öööö
The first long TD was essentially a pop fly to a WR who got open because the CB or safety, can't remember who it was, felt it more important to look in the backfield and stop coverage.

VT obviously knew we stacked the box against the run on 3rd and 4th and short situations. Threw the ball past us several times. The TD on 4th down was because our CB got caught looking and not covering.
 
Spent the day at GT with my son. We come down once a year for a game together. That was rough.

1) our OL is just terrible. They are slow, weak, don’t seem to know their assignments, and they don’t play with any energy. They seem like a major weakness on tv but watching in person was eye popping. I went to school during Key’s time here and I appreciate him as an alum but I don’t see any coaching evidence with this group.

2) what exactly was Thacker watching? The 3 points at the end of the half were on him entirely. We are not nearly talented enough in the secondary to rush 3 and give even a crap QB like Burmeister all that time.

3) our secondary is bad I’m not sure I can blame Thacker. Between burton and our head coach, you’d think we wouldn’t suck so hard. Clearly we have guys here who shouldn’t be on a D1 field. Sorry but Oliver and King are not even serviceable backups

4) I wouldn’t blame Gibbs and Sims if they left. They are both in a different talent universe. Gibbs fortunately will have his NFL shot regardless. when Sims has any time at all, the kid is great to watch. Throws and runs so well.

5) Pnode was bailed out by Sims and McGowan on that 1st half TD in the north endzone. His 2nd and 3rd down calls were putrid. He repeatedly tried to best VT to the edge and it was never working.I don’t know why he’s calling screens with this team’s talent level. Coordinator wise, it was GT’s worst game in my memory.

6) for a head coach with special teams and secondary emphasis, don’t we especially suck in those areas?

7) man, it’s sad to see where attendance has fallen. Our fans just don’t care to show up anymore, and who can blame them? If I lived local and it’s a noon rainy game, I probably stay home too rather than see this product on the field

8) the reunion donations to the academic school really put our revenue issues within the athletic association in perspective. $70mm raised this year from 50, 30 and 25 year reunion classes. Check out our endowment, and compare it per capita to other schools. Then look at our athletic donations, and I think you’ll see where the priorities lie
I found it funny when the goof-ball PA announcer would yell Money Down, everyone in the stands just sat there. I don't have the voice to be a PA announcer, but if they kept making me yell money down, I would either refuse or walk away.
I was there and after a bit he stopped saying money down and just said 3rd down.
 
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