Guy....Sell me on Muschamp..what does he bring
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Nate, just to clarify. His title at Miami was Asst. Head Coach Defense. I don't know whether he was the sole Defensive Coordinator or not in '05 but it seemed like a major role. I know that in '06 Saban wanted to bring in Dom Capers to help with the defense and play a large role and that is why WM left to Auburn.
Many of Saban's coaches are young because no one (very few) will work with him more than once.
Jimbo Fisher was young.
His current OC at Alabama is the youngest in Div 1A.
Heck word is Collins wants to get out of there already.
Muschamp has had good success as a DC at places with high levels of talent. That doesn't mean he couldn't have success as a DC at places without as much talent, but it is certainly an unknown and the talent level aspect would be a consideration.
Jimbo Fisher was young.
His current OC at Alabama is the youngest in Div 1A.
Heck word is Collins wants to get out of there already.
Muschamp has had good success as a DC at places with high levels of talent. That doesn't mean he couldn't have success as a DC at places without as much talent, but it is certainly an unknown and the talent level aspect would be a consideration.
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sorry, i dont have time to scour the internet tirelessly researching WM's every move. I figured my GT brethren could enlighten me but I guess I should shut the F**k up according to BOR
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Well said Nate, you and i differ in our 1st choices but we dont call others names because we dont see eye to eye.
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You can look all day at a coaches bio, how well he performed, his past experiences, and articles written about him. But the bottom line is you have to talk to the guy face to face, ask in depth questions, and then determine your opinion of him. That's where references and the interview process become so important.
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Hey, I'm not afraid to open my mouth in front of anyone. And I'll gladly come up to you and introduce myself even if you decide to kick my ass into next week. It bothers me that you've been pretty adamant about not hiring Muschamp noting that he's a dawg (which has nothing to do with coaching) and have been quite in favor of Edsall. I'll be happy with any of them but I am particularly high on Muschamp because he reminds me so much of Stoops, Richt, and Rodriguez at the times they were hired. The top ten teams in the country are littered with coaches who had no head coaching experience prior ro being named coach. They had the balls to take a calculated risk, and it worked.
As a former player, I would think it is in your best interest to do your homework instead of relying on a bunch of internet geeks to give you the low down. Coming out of the gate, it was clearly obvious that it didn't matter who we were interviewing, Randy was the best option according to you. I understand where you are coming from, you played for him. But quite clearly you have a biased opinion and maybe just maybe you aren't giving consideration to what our other options are.
Here's a couple of points about Muschamp that Axe touched on a little and is why I am excited about him as a coach.
In 2001 Muschamp joined Nick Saban's staff at LSU as linebackers coach before rising to defensive coordinator in 2002. In the 2003 season, LSU won the BCS Championship with Muschamp's defense leading the nation in both scoring defense (11.0 ppg) and total defense (252.0 ypg). Muschamp left LSU after the 2004 season with Saban to join the Miami Dolphins staff as the Assistant Head Coach in Charge of Defense. While at LSU, Muschamp coached four All-Americans including Bradie James, Chad Lavalais, Corey Webster and Marcus Spears. Florida State Seminoles offensive coordinator Jimbo Fisher believes Muschamp deserves much more credit for the LSU defensive performance than he has been given.[6] Fisher coached at LSU at the same time as Muschamp and the two remain close friends.
Pretty awesome stats huh? So he goes off to Miami for a year under Saban and then wants to return to the college ranks, so he comes back to Auburn in 2006.
When the Auburn defensive coordinator position became available in January 2006, Muschamp took the opportunity to return to the college game. In 2006, Muschamp's first season at Auburn, the defense finished seventh among NCAA Division I-FBS teams in scoring defense, allowing only 21 touchdowns.[7] In 2007, Auburn led the SEC in scoring defense and finished fifth nationally among NCAA Division I-FBS teams, allowing 23 touchdowns.
I'd venture a guess that this guy is not only young, he knows how to motivate his players to get top consistent results. He is obviously one of the brightest defensive minds in the country. He is very remeniscent of Bob Stoops when Stoops was a DC.
This guy has consistently fielded top 10 defenses and has a far better track record at a much earlier age than Tenuta. On top of that he is from the State of Georgia and recruits the State for both Auburn and he did so for LSU. So his recruiting connections are already there and probably much much stronger than Edsalls, Hatcher's, Johnsons, etc. etc.
To me, this is the kind of coach we need and should take a chance on. He brings the best chance for a big reward.
He also is good friends with Chris Hatcher and I don't doubt for one second that he wouldn't want Hatcher as an OC at GT. That position would pay him much more than as a HC at GSU. Imagine the possibilities.
So respectfully Nate, stop being a meat head and get with the program.
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Those comments were addressed to Beevis because he didn't understand what is so impressive with Muschamp he has no head coaching experience. To which I replied the resume of one Chan Gailey who sucks and then told him to go look up the top ten teams and their coach's resumes because most of them are coached by guys who had no head coaching experience prior to that job.
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No, i did not intend the thread to snipe WM, i am like you, searching for the upside over other candidates.
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All of this stuff is fairly easy to find on the internet by doing a Google Search on Muschamp.
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You like to call people names Jimmy?
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For the Dawgs amongst us, CV = employment application
For you recent Tech grad, CV = resume
And for you pretentious, upwardly mobile, academic and upper management types, CV = Curriculum Vitae, loosely translated as "course of one's life". They'll tell you it is more detailed than a resume, but it basically just means you like to use big words and fancy initials that the peons have never heard.
WM is going to need an OC...
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At least what I stated was true - Muschamp has no head coaching experience - unlike your assertions in another thread that Hatcher has no D1A experience "in any capacity". Of course, if you "do your homework", you will quickly find that Hatcher was the assistant coach at Kentucky in 1999 coaching QBs and receivers.
You did bring up an interesting stat about previous head coaching experience for top ranked teams - I haven't checked on that to see if that one is correct.
If true, it's an intriquing stat.
Clearly, there are things to be learned as a head coach that you don't get as an assistant: game management, team management, press and fan relations etc. So, it would seem to me that having some head coaching experience is better than none at all.
If you can't discuss this stuff rationally without name calling when someone doesn't agree with you, then maybe you should be the one to STFU.
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I was giving you a hard time. And I've stated my name on this board a thousand and one times, so you doing so doesn;t really call me out in anyway. Most people know my name.
James Thomas V. Smith class of 1996.
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Everything I've heard, including from people supposedly close to him, is he doesn't want to take an OC job anywhere and that he would be interested in the HC job at GT.
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Possibly very true, but if you want to toss out the credentials of a coaching candidate based on something that doesn't give you any indication of how good of a head coach he could be at GT, then that bothers me.
Just so you don't have to look it up: Just a few of the guys in the top ten with no previous head coaching experience:
Richt, UGA
Stoops, Oklahoma
Mangino, Kansas
Rodriguez, WVU unless you count his two years at Glennville State College way back when where he was a HC.