HD says people won't get used to defending the TO

1gtfan said:
Yeah, here we go again with you....
Giving up 31 to Fsu, 42 to Ugag and 38 to Lsu is playing championship defense....:wow:
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Oh, so what you're really saying is that GT has NEVER had championship defenses? Now I get it.
 
ncjacket said:
Here we go again. Last year's defense was every bit as good as any defense Tenuta put on the field in his time at Tech. We played like crap in the chicken bowl, but over the course of the year our defense was as good as any we've had.
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I do believe that the '08 D finished ranked between the '06 and '07 D's, with only about 10-15 ypg separating them. Seems pretty consistent to me.
 
ncjacket said:
You guys really are full of it. Her articles are no more or less insightful than pretty much any writer who covers college football.
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Nonsense. There were a few of her articles from this past season that were 3rd grade material.

As I said, I haven't read any recent work of hers - she's merely easy to poke fun at.
 
gth816f said:
Of course they can stop us. All they have to do is execute better than us. If all you are trying to say is that if we execute perfectly and don't make mistakes then no one can stop us...well, you can say that about virtually any offense. Good defensive reads and discipline are what can FORCE mistakes from us(and any other offense) and cause us to "stop ourselves."
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Discipline does not stop the TO. You can be disciplined all you want and still be outnumbered 8-6 and get torched.

For example: play sound discipline defense, lined up in a 4-3 ... DT is double teamed by the OG and OT, the OT after rubbing the DT comes off to take the MLB, the DE takes the BB dive, the WR blocks the Corner, the AB blocks the safety, that leaves the OLB to take either QB or pitch ... which means you were disciplined and took the only responsiblities necessary for you to take and remain somewhat sound, and you still gave up a BIG play. There's no way to stop our bread and butter play unless you can physically beat multiple blocks and/or do something unsound defensively which would make you VERY vulnerable to something else.

Throw in variations in our blocking scheme and it just can't be stopped. How do you think WVA and TxTch can score so many points each and every year? Not with superior athletes. UF wins national championships.
 
1gtfan said:
WindyCityJacket said:
Our offense will NEVER be a problem while P.J. is here...As a few have said on this thread, WE have stopped us this year and not the opposing defenses..

The question here at Gt in the Paul Johnson era will ALWAYS be DEFENSE...Will he bring a top 15 scoring defense to the table at some point, non of this adequete or we did this or that or this excuse (We used new technique and new system as excuses this year on defense) BUT, we have to be a top 15 scoring defense every year to be a legitimate MNC contender...PERIOD!!! If P.J. can do this at some point, we will have something REAL special around here...If Wommack doesn't get it done this year, then he should be out...We were horrible on defense the last half of the year...
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I could not agree more.
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The Jacket said:
Nonsense. There were a few of her articles from this past season that were 3rd grade material.

As I said, I haven't read any recent work of hers - she's merely easy to poke fun at.
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and what makes that any different from Shlabach?
 
Jacket59 said:
Discipline does not stop the TO. You can be disciplined all you want and still be outnumbered 8-6 and get torched.

For example: play sound discipline defense, lined up in a 4-3 ... DT is double teamed by the OG and OT, the OT after rubbing the DT comes off to take the MLB, the DE takes the BB dive, the WR blocks the Corner, the AB blocks the safety, that leaves the OLB to take either QB or pitch ... which means you were disciplined and took the only responsiblities necessary for you to take and remain somewhat sound, and you still gave up a BIG play. There's no way to stop our bread and butter play unless you can physically beat multiple blocks and/or do something unsound defensively which would make you VERY vulnerable to something else.

Throw in variations in our blocking scheme and it just can't be stopped. How do you think WVA and TxTch can score so many points each and every year? Not with superior athletes. UF wins national championships.
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I never said that discipline stops the triple option. I said it forces you to make mistakes, which is what stops your offense, and this tends to be true of almost any offense. Yes, if you execute well our offense is impossible to stop...that becomes a hell of a lot tougher if the defense is playing really well and not making mistakes that let Dwyer break for a 70+ yard TD run.

See any of Petyon Manning's offenses, which are things of beauty to watch when they are executed well. Or see the Patriots two years ago...their offense was unstoppable. You just couldn't cover all the options they had, there was always someone to beat you. But, when the Giants' defense started to put pressure on Brady, all of a sudden it became a lot harder to hit those options and the offense wasn't quite as unstoppable.

Or just look at UNC or LSU this year. You can say we stopped ourselves, but there's a reason we stopped ourselves in those games and didn't against Georgia or Miami. If Georgia had decided to actually know how to tackle, the game would have been a lot different.
 
If Georgia had decided to actually know how to tackle, the game would have been a lot different.
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A lot of that was relying too heavily on the FS to take the pitch man. If you notice, LSU didn't do that. If the FS is covering the pitch, then he's invariably got a bad angle at the tackle. If he makes it then great, if he doesn't he's got no backup.
 
I hate her answer. I think that the triple option has been figured out. It was figured out years ago. Hell, when I play NCAA 09, it doesn't work worth anything because the computer knows it's an old, high school offense. Teams should simply stop to even bother preparing for it. It's like re-learning your ABCs.
 
Allen Koholic said:
I hate her answer. I think that the triple option has been figured out. It was figured out years ago. Hell, when I play NCAA 09, it doesn't work worth anything because the computer knows it's an old, high school offense. Teams should simply stop to even bother preparing for it. It's like re-learning your ABCs.
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I was all :wow: I do just fine with it on the game.

Then I was all :o cause I'm dumb
 
JWE37 said:
...If we fumble and do not execute, then Gardner Webb happens....
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You're right... But we only fumbled twice vs. G-W. We both had 1 interception. They beat us in alotta statistical categories -- including rushing yards gained (not net), first downs, etc. That all speaks to the not executing part...
 
If Georgia had decided to actually know how to tackle, the game would have been a lot different.
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I love how people say "as long as the defense is in the exact right position at the exact right times and makes their tackles, the option can be stopped." Of course the TO won't do much for GT if we played, say, the Steelers' defense.

It's not a magical Bo Jackson sweep which always works. But it does spread the field out and give a lot of opportunities to create mismatches which can be exploited by a split-second decision from a good option QB. Opportunities like that wouldn't really happen if we played the Steelers, but the UGA game showed plenty of opportunity for the offense against good college defenses.
 
wrek said:
You're right... But we only fumbled twice vs. G-W. We both had 1 interception. They beat us in alotta statistical categories -- including rushing yards gained (not net), first downs, etc. That all speaks to the not executing part...
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The triple option does a pretty bad job when reduced to one option. Even the pass didn't work for us against G-W.
 
The Jacket said:
She's far more fun to pick on because most of her work directly praises us.
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Fixed for irony.

FloridaJacket, I understand that. My point was that we're not going to execute perfectly...there are going to be times when we put the defense into a situation where they can stop us if they execute at a certain level. Everyone says stuff like "well, we killed ourselves with fumbles" or "we just didn't make the reads on the pitch, it's not like they really stopped us." A good defense will force an offense to make mistakes and "stop itself."

And just so everyoe knows, I do love this offense and think we can win a national championship with it. But when people say something like a defense of equal talent can't stop us when we execute right, I find that kind of silly because that holds true for all offenses. No one runs an offense that isn't going to work when it's executed right.
 
JWE37 said:
You can't stop the Bo Jackson sweep even if you pick the play.
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gth816f said:
Fixed for irony.
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:laugher: That matters? Does Mark Bradley lose his crown and stop being the King of Douchebags because he praises us once in a while?

I don't care if she loves us or hates us - you're missing the point. Maybe I'm misreading you guys, but you seem to be getting far too touchy about Heather.
 
I remember someone posting that she "was just a pretty face and had no writing skills", and then I realized they must have had some serious beer goggles on. Girl is fugly
 
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