How in the name of God do you leave JD off this list?!

The Heisman Trophy used to mean something. I gave up on it when they picked Dayne over Joe.

I'm not bitter, just indifferent.

Having said that, however, Dwyer wouldn't have been on my top 3 list either.

Top 3 is Top 3.
 
augustabuzz said:
Thanks for confirming my point. Woodson was awarded the Heisman because he played for Michigan. Was Ron Dayne a better player than Joe Hamilton in '99? NO! But, he did play in the default conference.
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Well, that is a bit of revisionist history. Tech was supposed to have a great year, and we were falling flat. Dayne looked like he was getting better.

then, in a nationally televised game against Wake Forrest (they were not good then) Joe had two picks and no TDs. We lost. that was the end

it was more of a perception than a factual basis, but Joe did not look his best right at the time the voters were likely making decisions.

Joe should have won anyways, but he didnt; but Tech's play had way more to do with it than conference affiliation.
 
Nesbitt, answering a teammate: “I don’t want a Heisman. Let’s get a championship.” Per AJC

This guy really impresses me with his team first mentality.
 
yellowandnaked said:
Nesbitt, answering a teammate: “I don’t want a Heisman. Let’s get a championship.” Per AJC

This guy really impresses me with his team first mentality.
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Not to say that Nesbitt isn't a great team player, but everyone says that. You can find tons of quotes from TO saying the same thing, "I just care about helping the team," etc.
 
gth816f said:
Not to say that Nesbitt isn't a great team player, but everyone says that. You can find tons of quotes from TO saying the same thing, "I just care about helping the team," etc.
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Quite the pessimist aren't we?

Edit: I would be too though if I were a Mets fan....
 
Charles Woodson played both ways that year, also was a kick returner. I used to be a Michigan fan (second to Ga. Tech) when I was younger, but don't try to argue that he didn't deserve it. I'm sure you can find less deserving people. Also, Ron Dayne won it more as a career achievement award, in my opinion.
 
odw said:
Ya there always got to be the one guy to rain on the parade, lol.
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Just trying to keep everyone level-headed :). Anyway, that wasn't meant to be an attack on Nesbitt at all(I love the guy, who doesn't?) Just pointing out that most players in that situation would say the same exact thing...I can't say I've ever heard of anyone actually saying "yeah, I really want to win an individual award, I don't really care if the team wins." No doubt there's players who think it, but you'd be hard pressed to find someone who wouldn't say the opposite.
 
gth816f said:
Just trying to keep everyone level-headed :). Anyway, that wasn't meant to be an attack on Nesbitt at all(I love the guy, who doesn't?) Just pointing out that most players in that situation would say the same exact thing...I can't say I've ever heard of anyone actually saying "yeah, I really want to win an individual award, I don't really care if the team wins." No doubt there's players who think it, but you'd be hard pressed to find someone who wouldn't say the opposite.
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Agreed but I think Josh has a sincerity about him that most don't. He wants to win passionately. You can see it on his face when we lose.
 
yellowandnaked said:
Agreed but I think Josh has a sincerity about him that most don't. He wants to win passionately. You can see it on his face when we lose.
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Yes. Had we lost to U[sic]GA last year, I don't think we would have seen him joking around on the sidelines or acting nonchalant during postgame interviews. I think if anyone on the team acts in any way that doesn't suggest passion for winning, then he's not long for Paul Johnson's team. That speaks both to the players and also to the type of team the coach is running.
 
gth816f said:
Yes. Had we lost to U[sic]GA last year, I don't think we would have seen him joking around on the sidelines or acting nonchalant during postgame interviews. I think if anyone on the team acts in any way that doesn't suggest passion for winning, then he's not long for Paul Johnson's team. That speaks both to the players and also to the type of team the coach is running.
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Bingo! PJ wouldnt settle for anything less. Josh kneeling on the sidelines after the VT game is what really stands out in my mind.
 
yellowandnaked said:
Bingo! PJ wouldnt settle for anything less. Josh kneeling on the sidelines after the VT game is what really stands out in my mind.
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Him playing in the 4th quarter against UNC with two bum ankles with us down 28-7 also sticks in there.
 
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