I don't understand all the gripe on Womack

Re: Tenuta would have produced ...

Our defensive ranks for the past 5 years

Scoring D
2007 - 17th (4th in conference)
2006 - 27th (7th in conference)
2005 - 23rd (6th in conference)
2004 - 21st (5th in conference)
2003 - 27th (5th in conference)

Total Defense
2007 - 11th (3rd in conference)
2006 - 27th (6th in conference)
2005 - 22nd (7th in conference)
2004 - 12th (4th in conferece)
2003 - 20th (2nd in conference)

So, although those are great numbers, we haven't had a Top 20 defense every year, and we've never even led the conference in defense. He's great, but you're overstating it a little.

This is in an indication of how horrible the ACC offenses have been as a group.
 
Re: Tenuta would have produced ...

Our defensive ranks for the past 5 years

Scoring D
2007 - 17th (4th in conference)
2006 - 27th (7th in conference)
2005 - 23rd (6th in conference)
2004 - 21st (5th in conference)
2003 - 27th (5th in conference)

Total Defense
2007 - 11th (3rd in conference)
2006 - 27th (6th in conference)
2005 - 22nd (7th in conference)
2004 - 12th (4th in conferece)
2003 - 20th (2nd in conference)

So, although those are great numbers, we haven't had a Top 20 defense every year, and we've never even led the conference in defense. He's great, but you're overstating it a little.

Interesting. So while our defense has ranked fairly well nationally over the last 5 years, so have defenses from at least a quarter to a third of the ACC. Does that indicate how strong the defenses have been in the conference or how weak the offenses have been? Have we really been as good as we'd like to believe?
 
Re: Tenuta would have produced ...

Interesting. So while our defense has ranked fairly well nationally over the last 5 years, so have defenses from at least a quarter to a third of the ACC. Does that indicate how strong the defenses have been in the conference or how weak the offenses have been? Have we really been as good as we'd like to believe?

We've had some good defenses in the conference but the offenses have obviously been really weak. Look at the out of conference games against BCS teams. Look at the QB play in the league.
 
I don't understand all the gripe on Womack
I do.

Everyone complaining about it knows more about what it takes to be a good defensive coordinator than Coach Paul Johnson. Well, not exactly. Let me explain...

Think of it as investing in "post futures." In order to invest in a post future, you must observe the following protocol:

  • Set up a post in anticipation of a future "I told you so" post. For example - "Our DC is not going to be successful! Next year's D will not be as good as this year's D because CPJ hired the wrong candidate."
  • Wait nine months.
  • Observe DC/D in action.
Scenario 1: DC/D sucks:
  • Go to bookmarks. Find post predicting DC/D would suck. Link to own post. Type the words "I told you so." Ignore alternative explanations for plucked-out-of-thin-air conclusion previously posted. Pat self on back.
Scenario 2: DC/D is wildly successful:
  • Go to bookmarks. Delete reference to original post future.
  • Disorient and confuse Stingtalk membership by reprinting draft email to dRad to demand satisfaction regarding the fact that UGa has so many more parking spaces than we do.
  • Pray no one bookmarked original post.
  • Vow to add conditional language and be a little more vague in future gloom-n-doom predictions just in case sheer, blind luck doesn't bail you out.
 
Burdell, the "investing in post futures" thing is pure genius.
 
I don't pretend to know what went on behind the scenes, but from a Machiavellian point of view it would not make sense for PJ to retain Tenuta. And Tenuta might not be happy sticking around when he felt he should be HC.

That's the key. If you want to be a success then you will surround yourself with people who will support you. It happens in most businesses when there is a change of power at the top.
 
His "Division 3 caliber players who weigh 80 lbs less on average on the line" at Navy gave up 59 points to a Div. 1-AA team.

fixed.

and ignored.
 
I remember in 1999 after we went a disappointing 8-4 in Joe Hamilton's senior year, I was talking with some friends about our need to hire a great defensive coordinator. At the time, Southern Miss was a school that was just downright nasty. In the latter half of the 90's, they were that team that popped up on a few big teams schedules and almost laid down or did lay down the upset. I remember them playing FSU really tight in a low scoring game. During the period that Womach was Southern Miss's DC, they were a damn good team.

Anyway, at the time, Womack was considered a bad ass DC. He was a name that was often talked about.

He has a lot of experience and I think our defense will be respected under his guidance. Besides, I trust Paul Johnson to make good hires.

I really don't place a lot of value on Womack's career at Arkansas. He had some pretty decent defenses there, but working for Houston Nutt is probably not a good indicator of his talents. There was a revolving door policy on assistants at Arkansas for years because the AD put pressure on Nutt to make changes often to please the fan base.

BOR,
I can't speak for the other posters but, personally, I just like to gripe.
The wife won't let me gripe to her so I just come in here, get on Stingtalk and gripe to my heart's content.
BTW, I sure do appreciate you all letting me do that.
LOL :)))


Have a very MERRY CHRISTMAS now.
 
I won't miss the Tenuta defense. Although Tech was good against the run under him, we had no pass defense. Third and long was almost always an automatic first down for our opponents. No way our pass defense can be worse under Womack.

MERRY CHRISTMAS
 
I won't miss the Tenuta defense. Although Tech was good against the run under him, we had no pass defense. Third and long was almost always an automatic first down for our opponents. No way our pass defense can be worse under Womack.

Expect to see an entire different philosophy on defense. Tenuta's defense was stingy on yards. That played well with Chan's field position game. O'Leary's "bend but don't break" defense worked well with Fridge's offense because field position meant pretty much nothing. JH could get yards by the bunches.

CPJ's offense racks up a lot of time of possession. Expect his defenses to force the other team to burn a lot of clock. Short passes, short runs by the other team. That squeezes the number of possessions the other team will get, so they will have to be more efficient on scoring.

I am just guessing here. The defense has to compliment the offense.
 
The Bunger is pretty impressed with this hire. A little stunned actually. I had been hoping there was some way we could manage to retain Tenuta, but I'm more than satisfied with Wommack.

Johnson and Wommack.

I'm sensing some BCS action.

Can you articulate why you like the hire? What has this guy done that impressed you. Looking for a silver lining.
 
Expect to see an entire different philosophy on defense.

then why did CPJ say that (and i paraphrase) 'not a lot is going to change on defense' when he described Womack?

also BJM and Giff are staying, so i think we will phase into something different, but i bet we start spring with exactly the same packages

"There's not a lot of difference between what he does and what Georgia Tech has been doing," Johnson said Friday.
http://www.ajc.com/gatech/content/sports/gatech/2007/2007/12/21/techfoot_1222.html
 
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Expect to see an entire different philosophy on defense. Tenuta's defense was stingy on yards. That played well with Chan's field position game. O'Leary's "bend but don't break" defense worked well with Fridge's offense because field position meant pretty much nothing. JH could get yards by the bunches.

CPJ's offense racks up a lot of time of possession. Expect his defenses to force the other team to burn a lot of clock. Short passes, short runs by the other team. That squeezes the number of possessions the other team will get, so they will have to be more efficient on scoring.

I am just guessing here. The defense has to compliment the offense.
Actually don't have any idea what you're talking about. The defense Womack used at Sou Miss isn't all that much different in philosophy to Tenuta's. High pressure, I think he called it "controlled chaos" or something like that. But I don't believe he blitzed as often. I thinkk we'll still try to play an attack style. Clearly there will be differeneces in coverages, etc. but the philosophy of pressuring the Offense will continue from all I can see/read.
 
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