I think we should open up the offense.

You can't open the offense up if the defense is shutting it down because the ol flops
 
coit said:
Open up a can of whoop-ass, amirite?
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That's what I'm looking for. Think we get too passive, being nonagressive on both sides of the ball. When we're trying to not give up a big play on d, on our heals, we give up the field. When we try not blocking people off the ball, we lose our whoop-ass. It's all about timing, but when you bring, bring it with attitude and executions.

When we're 3 and 8 its not good on O. Not who we are. We'll get in position on d with 3 and 8, but we give that or more away. I say bring it. Stop being passive.

We have to figure that out. Some is personel. When it's happened at frequicy it has it's more than personel. Timing it right in scheme and getting the players to execute.

Whoop-ass!
 
We have this guy, Robert Boucher out of Louisiana. He's a walk-on waterboy but I've heard rumors he can "bring a can of whoop ass, courtesy of captain insano" for the D. Don't nobody talk bout his mama.
 
I think CPJ could open up the offense by going back to his time at Hawaii and what he learned there. That was a spread option offense that depended less on the triple option running game and more on throwing the ball. You would need a QB with a different skill set. But, I think CPJ does have the experience needed to open up our attack if we have one more season of poor blocking and a running attack that fizzles against good opponents.
 
I don't think the Rainbows played against many strong run first teams. CPJ learned that when you do, you lose, unless you too can run the rock.
 
We need to get the Bback going again. We got about 60% of our usual production out of that position.

No one respected the dive. From ND forward, the MLB/SS played the outside without looking inside. All they did way check to see if it was a quick pass they could pick off.

Our OL got worked by opposing DL. Considering that we were optioning 1guy, our front 5 were getting man handled by 3 down linemen.
 
WracerX said:
Our OL got worked by opposing DL. Considering that we were optioning 1guy, our front 5 were getting man handled by 3 down linemen.
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No amount of play calling will fix the above - you're exactly right. OL has got to show up for any CPJ scheme to work.
 
PJ's offense is perfect for us. It runs clock and keeps our defense off the field. It just happens to be that when our offense sucks, we only win 3 games. Relatively speaking, our offense has overperformed much more often than underperformed. I feel very confident that we will be very good this year.

But the main question is: what is our standard? a national championship? If that is the case, then everyone should definitely be bitching. We haven't come close to winning one in a quarter of a century.
 
BuzzLaw said:
PJ's offense is perfect for us. It runs clock and keeps our defense off the field. It just happens to be that when our offense sucks, we only win 3 games. Relatively speaking, our offense has overperformed much more often than underperformed. I feel very confident that we will be very good this year.

But the main question is: what is our standard? a national championship? If that is the case, then everyone should definitely be bitching. We haven't come close to winning one in a quarter of a century.
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Well seems like we are ,or some are,happy with seven and five about 40000 in the stands awful unis and beating georgie once in a blue moon.......not by any means a Dave Blaine guy but he predicted as much........looks to me that 7-5 is all we are going to get unless we get players to run this offense and somebody to stop the other folks from scoring.
 
We should have beaten Georgia at home. That TD at halftime sticks in my craw. Dammit.
 
Nawaab said:
It's not happening at this point. The fans have discussed the possibilities into the ground, PJ made a show to pacify us by half-heartedly throwing in a random pistol play with Vad, and in the end, he's not going to change his offense. What you see is what you're going to get, and it can take us both close to the top of the mountain and to the basement, and that is mostly decided by the OLine play.
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We line up in the same formation 99% of the time and our bread and butter play is the mesh between the QB and BB with a read on the defensive line to decide whether to let the BB keep it or pull and option the defensive end.

Now you are an offensive guard or tackle and the defensive line is stunting different guys on every single play. Sometimes they slant to the inside with a LB covering the outside. Other times the line slants to the outside with the LB filling the BB/QB mesh. Sometimes they don't slant, they simply side step and fire a gap.

The defensive plan is to stop the BB, and force the QB to pitch to an AB. With our offense and its demonstrated tendencies, a defense is not forced to play us in a balance manner. And, our offensive line has the chips stacked against them unless the defense is unable to hide the stunt they are getting ready to execute and we have a system to check into a play designed to take advantage of the stunt.

IMO, we need to broaden our offensive formations and plays to force a defense to play us balanced and then read and react. If we can force the defense to line up balanced, the TO can really move the ball.

As for passing, if we don't do something different, JT will continue to run for his life.

Defensive line penetration really does disrupt our offense. If we occasionally put a large receiver in the AB (wing) position so he could either block or run a route, that would help. It would be a different look but not so different and it would enable zone blocking to the inside (with a wingback player large enough to take on the defensive en to shield JT and we could just sprint to the outside behind a motion man. We don't really give up anything because the defense is taking away the dive anyway but we also don't waste the BB as a decoy. We use him either as a blocker, pitch man or receiver.

I hope CPJ will make adjustments this year which will enable our very capable OL to do its job.
 
Listen,none of the things you describe the defense doing against our offense are new. In fact, the offense is designed to take advantage of them. We know they want to stop the BB first. We don't want them to play us in a balanced manner, we want to catch them in that unbalanced situation and burn them. The problem last year was not the offense, it was that we didn't run it worth a crap. We have all done almost everything people "wish" we would try while PJ has been here. What he goes back to is what works, based on the players we have at the time and how they are playing. If you don't believe me just look at film from 2014, when we did what we were supposed to do versus last year when we didn't. Same offense.
 
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How many times have you seen two running backs in our offense? How many times to you see us line up with a tight end? How many times do you see us line up in the shotgun? How many times do you see us line up in the spread with a QB and RB deep with four wide receivers? How many times do you see us line up in a tight slot? How many times have you seen us shift the formation at the LOS?

I hope I am wrong. But, other coaches have been working on methods to slow down CPJ's basic offense. And, it appears to be working. We really clicked on offense during the spring game didn't we?
 
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