Interesting Holiday Bowl turn of events

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I stopped taking the story seriously when the article invoked the provisions of Title IX in a rape investigation.

If I'm an idiot for not understanding the nexus then fine but it sounds to me like they are trying to drop the biggest hammer in the history of hammers down on these kids just to make the point to the entire universe that Minnesota is not Baylor.

I obviously don't know the details but trying to turn a rape investigation into a civil rights case sounds a bit over the top. Besides, the players themselves are not governed by Title 9 - the university is.

I also noted that the coach is siding with the players. That is not always a good sign [/Briles] but in this case, I think it probably is.

One more question. If not playing in the bowl has a materially detrimental economic impact on a player's NFL draft status and that player is subsequently cleared of any suspicion of wrongdoing, can that player then file a reverse discrimination suit against Minnesota and the NCAA?

To be honest, i don't really care whether it's rape, sexual assault or what. If i am the coach of a team where 10 guys öööö a girl I'm kicking all of them off the team anyway. That's not how you act and it's not something that needs to be associated with my school or team.

 

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We dont know the full details, but from what i've read, some players ran a train on this girl and there were several videos taken. The police concluded that the videos showed it all to be completely consensual, so they dropped the case. Even so, the school suspended 10 and may be expelling 4 or 5 of them. Some of the guys that were suspended were apparently not even a part of the "train", but were just in the apartment at the time. All of this apparently happening out of the blue, months after the incident happened and the case was closed.

I'm not sure the team boycott is going to accomplish anything since it's unlikely the school would cave for fear of setting a precedent, but I understand the sentiment. I know people personally affected by a college immediately siding with the accuser even in absence of evidence in cases like this, and it's really ööööty. Minnesota does not have more evidence than the police, which have already cleared the players of wrongdoing with video evidence. If Minnesota wants to play the "ethics" card to suspend/expel these guys for "actions unbecoming of a gopher", or whatever, then I would also expect the female to be expelled for willingly participating (as proven legally by police) in this "unethical" sex act, but of course that wont happen.

The evidence didn't show it all to be completely consensual, there just wasn't enough evidence for the prosecutors to think they could get a conviction. Very different things. Also there is evidence that the Title IX investigation has that the prosecutors evidently didn't have originally. That has now been shared and there could very well be charges in the future. But why was i not surprised that this board would side with the men in this?

 

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The evidence didn't show it all to be completely consensual, there just wasn't enough evidence for the prosecutors to think they could get a conviction. Very different things. Also there is evidence that the Title IX investigation has that the prosecutors evidently didn't have originally. That has now been shared and there could very well be charges in the future. But why was i not surprised that this board would side with the men in this?

I don't think the board sided with the football players. At the very least, they behaved badly. I won't defend the whore either. She got in over her head to be popular. All of them are idiots.

 

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I don't think the board sided with the football players. At the very least, they behaved badly. I won't defend the whore either. She got in over her head to be popular. All of them are idiots.

I agree with that and probably overstated based on a few posts. To me the bottom line is there should be expectations of scholarship athletes other than not being criminals. And the girl did get herself into this but that's not an excuse for the players.

 

[GT1992]

I agree with that and probably overstated based on a few posts. To me the bottom line is there should be expectations of scholarship athletes other than not being criminals. And the girl did get herself into this but that's not an excuse for the players.

Snowflakes at work.

 

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Snowflakes at work.