Interesting read

BarrelORum said:
There is one person who in my opinion would take GT to the next level and would be the perfect fit.

He's been a winner where ever he's been.
He understands coaching at an academic school
He has ties and in roads for recruiting in the State of Georgia...

His name is Paul Johnson and he is the Coach at Navy. And don't give me this bull about him coming to GT and running the triple option offense. He's smart enough to know not to do that and he uses his personnel the best way he can.
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Just to be clear, you're talking about this Paul Johnson:

Reporter: Can I ask you something without making you mad?

Johnson: Maybe. I don't know


Reporter: I was talking to a Navy fan and he said he follows the coverage and that he noticed something and I'm just going to put it to you. He says that it seems like when Navy loses you blame the players, i.e., we can't execute fundamental plays, but that the success of the team the last four years has been attributed to brilliant coaching. How do you respond to that?

Johnson: Whatever he thinks. I don't go down to McDonald's and start second-guessing his job so he ought to leave me alone.


Reporter: But do you feel like it can't be both ways?

Johnson: You know what? I could care less. I'm old enough where I could give a crap what the fans think or what you think to put it in a nutshell.


Reporter: Wins and losses are evenly distributed as far as credit and blame, right?

Johnson: If you could ever find one time that I said we won the game because of brilliant strategy I will kiss your butt at city dock and give you two days to draw a crowd. Find it and bring it to me. Tell that guy that if he wants to talk to me I live at [address given but deleted for the transcript] I will be right there. Come ring my doorbell and I will be glad to talk to him.


This was posted on espn.com, and was from a transcript on the Navy Web site based on "the exchange between Navy coach Paul Johnson and a reporter after practice one day last week."
 
GTKyle said:
Agreed. All I've seen from him is a bunch of stuffed QB draws. Nesbitt has one passing attempt on the year.

And beej, what the hell is a QB sweep!? Do you mean option keeper?
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To be fair, one of the QB draws went for like 25 yards.

Umm, QB sweep is "like" an option keeper, but with no pitchman. You know, a sweep, with the QB. :P Probably the #1 play in Pop Warner football.
 
BarrelORum said:
There is one person who in my opinion would take GT to the next level and would be the perfect fit.

He's been a winner where ever he's been.
He understands coaching at an academic school
He has ties and in roads for recruiting in the State of Georgia...

His name is Paul Johnson and he is the Coach at Navy. And don't give me this bull about him coming to GT and running the triple option offense. He's smart enough to know not to do that and he uses his personnel the best way he can.
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:fingersx:
 
Chan is going no where. He'll beat a team that he is not suppose to this year and lose a game or two that we should win (see UVA). Its what he does and why he stays. Tough to fire a coach who just gets by.
 
beej67 said:
To be fair, one of the QB draws went for like 25 yards.

Umm, QB sweep is "like" an option keeper, but with no pitchman. You know, a sweep, with the QB. :P Probably the #1 play in Pop Warner football.
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Ahh, so we use a pop warner offense. No wonder we suck.
 
The Wildcat formation is a Pop Warner formation.

FWIW, just because it's simple doesn't mean it doesn't work. Witness the Falcons using a QB Sweep out of the single wing formation to beat the Vikings in overtime, back when Dan Reeves was the HC.
 
Chili, its that type of response that makes me love him that much more. I've met the guy at a charity gold tournament, and he's very personal and very respectful. This was 2 years ago, and I jokingly said to him "how would you like to come coach at GT, I'm not too happy with our guy." PJ looked at me and smiled, and gave an approving nod, like saying "Yeah, that would interest me".

Nice man and well respected by many. I think he would recruit lights out in Georgia too with all of his connections.
 
BarrelORum said:
Chili, its that type of response that makes me love him that much more. I've met the guy at a charity gold tournament, and he's very personal and very respectful. This was 2 years ago, and I jokingly said to him "how would you like to come coach at GT, I'm not too happy with our guy." PJ looked at me and smiled, and gave an approving nod, like saying "Yeah, that would interest me".

Nice man and well respected by many. I think he would recruit lights out in Georgia too with all of his connections.
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Frankly I am rather disturbed with his use of could over couldn't.
 
BarrelORum said:
There is one person who in my opinion would take GT to the next level and would be the perfect fit.

He's been a winner where ever he's been.
He understands coaching at an academic school
He has ties and in roads for recruiting in the State of Georgia...

His name is Paul Johnson and he is the Coach at Navy. And don't give me this bull about him coming to GT and running the triple option offense. He's smart enough to know not to do that and he uses his personnel the best way he can.
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The only problem is he has a good salary at Navy. An extremely good salary. Navy took the money they saved on schollies and spent it all on a coach who could beat Army and AF.

And it's also a bit worrying to see Navy come so close to losing to Duke. Then again, we have a coach who didn't just come close to losing to Duke.
 
BarrelORum said:
There is one person who in my opinion would take GT to the next level and would be the perfect fit.

He's been a winner where ever he's been.
He understands coaching at an academic school
He has ties and in roads for recruiting in the State of Georgia...

His name is Paul Johnson and he is the Coach at Navy. And don't give me this bull about him coming to GT and running the triple option offense. He's smart enough to know not to do that and he uses his personnel the best way he can.
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Paul Johnson is one of the worst game-day decision coaches I have seen. He completely gave away their bowl game last year to Boston College in the closing minutes...calling only plays that could lose the game in the closing minutes. It was mind-boggling to watch.

That single game was the final straw for me...I already found his coaching game plan skills to be ordinary and recruiting ability completely mediocre.
 
I'd have to agree about last year's bowl game. The only way Navy loses is for them to keep pitching the damn ball. So they did.
 
Paul Johnson is one of the worst game-day decision coaches I have seen. He completely gave away their bowl game last year to Boston College in the closing minutes...calling only plays that could lose the game in the closing minutes. It was mind-boggling to watch.
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Paul Johnson clearly gave that game to BC. Last year's bowl game is clear evidence that Paul Johnson calls the fumble play far too often. He called it right after the hold play! Clearly he was using Chan's playbook.


Navy's final drive of the game:

1st and 10 at BC 42
Eric Kettani rush for 5 yards to the BC 37. 2nd and 5 at BC 37
Timeout BOSTON COLLEGE, clock 02:03.
2nd and 5 at BC 37
Eric Kettani rush for no gain to the BC 37. 3rd and 5 at BC 37
Timeout BOSTON COLLEGE, clock 01:58.
3rd and 5 at BC 37
Timeout NAVY, clock 01:58.
3rd and 5 at BC 37
Navy penalty 10 yard holding accepted, no play.
3rd and 15 at BC 47
Reggie Campbell rush for a loss of 7 yards, fumbled at the Navy 45, recovered by Jolonn Dunbar, returned by Jolonn Dunbar for 5 yards at the Navy 40.

WAY TO SNATCH DEFEAT FROM THE JAWS OF VICTORY, PAUL JOHNSON!
 
God, you're an idiot. This "hold play" and "fumble play" crap is neither funny nor relevant.
 
The point, beej, is the pitch play they ran at the end. They were not going to run for a first down on 3rd and 15 and needed to use clock and punt. You simply can't pitch the ball on a defense that is blitzing everyone trying to force a mistake when you can just pin them back with the punt and make them drive the entire length of the field. Poor judgement.
 
hiveredtech said:
That single game was the final straw for me...I already found his coaching game plan skills to be ordinary and recruiting ability completely mediocre.
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Dude, he coaches at NAVY!

Let me say that again, HE COACHES AT NAVY!

He's taking them to bowl games every year. And he almost beat BC that we got dominated by. Get some perspective. You have no basis to judge a man's recruiting and how well he's done at NAVY of all places. Give me a break.
 
The point, beej, is the pitch play they ran at the end.
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Clearly he wouldn't have called scissors if he knew the other team was going to call rock.

?


Consider this:

Say he calls the 'take a knee' play on third and 15. They punt, punt is returned 30 yards, BC makes 3 good passes, kicks the FG and wins. Not unheard of. In fact, it sounds pretty similar to the way some Tech games have gone the past few years, doesn't it? Every discussion board poster in the world would go right back to that playcall, where he called Rock instead of Scissors, and said "YOU NEED TO GO FOR IT ON THIRD DOWN, OTHERWISE YOU'RE GIVING THE GAME TO THE OTHER TEAM. WAY TO SNATCH DEFEAT FROM THE JAWS OF VICTORY, PAUL." Navy had only called something like 6 pass plays that game, so the irate discussion board poster is clearly calling for an outside run play with his gripe. A pitch play.

And someone here on Stingtalk would say exactly that. You, me, someone.


My point is not that Paul is better than Chan, nor that he's worse, merely that Paul and Chan suffer from the same ailment. Namely that they're head football coaches who are easy to criticize from a keyboard a day, a week, or a year after their player fumbles the ball and loses the game for them.

beej67,
extremist? or moderate in disguise?
 
My only point was that it's dumb to run a relatively high risk, option pitch play when you're trying to run out to the clock and punt. I don't have anything against Johnson and if he were Tech's coach I would defend him when I think he was right just like I do with Chan. Yeah, someone would have said something on Stingtalk if he was the Tech coach and ran it up the gut and punted, but there's always some dumbass on this board saying something stupid. But when a coach plays the percentages and it doesn't work, that just how it goes.

Anyway, the only valid complaints on play calling, etc are those I agree with anyway. You should know that by now.:laugher:
 
All they had to do was QB sneak up the gut...or take a darn knee and punt it away.

The only way BC could have won with seconds left in the game was to throw the ball backwards in the air and fumble it. Even fumbling at the line of scrimmage would not have killed them!

It was the most maddening thing I had ever seen.
 
The only way BC could have won with seconds left in the game was to throw the ball backwards in the air and fumble it. Even fumbling at the line of scrimmage would not have killed them!
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Dude, there was 1:58 left in the game, with Matt Ryan at quarterback. What was the average duration of BC's scoring drives vs Tech this year?
 
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