Is anyone else trying to negotiate their Tech Fund?

[thwg]

While I agree somewhat with what you are saying, GT's PSL is far lower than schools like UGA, Clemson's new fund, LSU etc etc. .

Just to make sure everyone understand how high the Tech Fund prices are, I just asked a GT alum coworker (non-season tciket holder but uses mine occasionally). His wife is a UGA grad. Her family has 4 seats close to the 50 YL, Section 107.

They give $400 per seat donation to UGA and for that they get to buy tickets almost on the 50 YL for he thinks $250 per season ticket. He actually thinks it may be less than that. they also get four UGA/UF tickets at face value in the lower level. He thinks face is $50 each.

Soooo, I can give $50 less and have lesser tix to Grant Field than what his wife gets in Athens where I assume the demand might be a little higher.

My wife has LSU season tickets for her business referenced above. Her per seat donation for lower level endzone seats is $90 per seat. She has Arkansas tickets as well and theirs is $25 per seat (lower level). WVU is I think $100 per seat. Obviously SEC schools tend to be a lot more but I don't think any are higher than GT.

I don't know about clemson but until this year they were dirt cheap. It might be a lot more now but they too are losing a lot of long-time season ticket holders who don't want to pay the fee.

Yes Tech fans (and especially nerdy alums) are tight and cheap but why are GT tix so overpriced? and why do they sell 3 game packs (great seats) to anyone? At least sell to donors the good seats near mine that are unsold as part of the season ticket package without a premium rather than putting them on www.ramblinwreck.com for anyone to buy....

I've long been an advocate for selling every ticket at market value. i'm fine with that. charge me $100 - $200 to the UGA game and let me give to the AT Fund if I want to donate. That makes a lot more sense to me than trying to convince people to pay skyhigh prices to see 5 D1 games this season.

 

[thwg]

Let me make this clear to you:

You are in the first camp, many of us are in the second. We are obviously hoping to persuade more people to join the second camp and we suffer from the public goods problem that allow people in the first camp to free ride.

I hope I made things clearer.

I'm in the first camp and I spent on tickets to GT sports in the last year about $8000 for my family of 5 (plus 3 extra football season tickets)??? If I'm in the first camp your second camp might, might have 1000 people in it.

How about I am in the second camp but am a little tired of paying 300%. I might be willing to pay 200% but at some point I do see other things more important in life like my kids education, a vacation every year, a mission to orphans in Africa, etc.

 

[thwg]

If you are successful, I have a major problem with this. If they are going to implement a program, then do it right. the minute they start negotiating with you is the minute the Tech Fund becomes like a used car lot.

I agree. Selfishly, i hope they do negotiate but it would set a very bad precedent.

 

[RamblinPeck]

Just to make sure everyone understand how high the Tech Fund prices are, I just asked a GT alum coworker (non-season tciket holder but uses mine occasionally). His wife is a UGA grad. Her family has 4 seats close to the 50 YL, Section 107.

Thats true, but those same people have previously donated quite a few tens of thousands of dollars to be able to get seats there. From what I understand anyways, I haven't looked into buying mutt tickets and never will but was always under the impression that quite a donation was required for season ticket rights/location. For them its old AT system plus TECH fund system, where we pretty much backburnered AT because people stopped donating once they got to where they wanted to be.

 

[WracerX]

I've long been an advocate for selling every ticket at market value. i'm fine with that. charge me $100 - $200 to the UGA game and let me give to the AT Fund if I want to donate. That makes a lot more sense to me than trying to convince people to pay skyhigh prices to see 5 D1 games this season.

I'm the opposite. I would prefer to pay $350 (80% tax deductable) and then $1 per ticket per game. That would be better solution for me financially.

If I were running a business though I don't know how the model works. I would imagine the Tech Fund would just be an operating expense. The face value is the reference point for selling the tickets, so you would rather everyone pay a high face value rather than a hidden fee. It would probably be easier to sell FSU/GT tickets for $85 if the face said $80, rather than if the face says $30 (with a hidden $50 Tech Fund).

 

[ncjacket]

First of all thwg, I doubt you know what your coworker's wife's family really has paid over the years for those tickets.

Second, whether you want to admit it or not, you really are just being cheap. You love to bitch and moan about Tech sports, but it's really just a business proposition to you. Support the teams or don't, I don't really care. But don't expect your opinions to matter to anyone when we all now know you're really just looking to score cheap tickets.

Finally, why would you even bring this up on a message board? Are you trying to get everyone to do what you're doing and see what havoc it causes to the Athletic Dept? Are you trying to prove some point? Just do what you want and keep your damn mouth shut.

 

[samsgt02]

Public schools fail because they can not restrict their clientele. Public School which can control student enrollment compete. This is why American high schools blow, but American colleges excel.

But that has nothing with thwg applying a cost-benefit model to an emotional issue like college sports.

Restricting enrollments into certain public high schools would be an effect from schools getting funding (tuitions, vouchers, scholarships, etc.) based on performance. My point was you shouldn't just give money without accountability. Pre-DRAD we didn't hold a certain coach's butt to the fire, we rewarded him. That pissed a lot of people off. But I think now, DRAD has us moving in the right direction. Donations will go up when the program improves.

 

[midatlantech]

The PSL ruined long term support and replaced it for the quick buck. When the youngsters quick buck stops pushing demand, a new plan will come out.


Cheap Engineers applies only to EE's, ME's, CHE's, and not I.E.'s. I can assure that the I.E. is smart enough to spend the extra $5.00 and save 40 minutes walk.


Please note that the better we get the more our costs are going to rise.


Lastly, public schools don't fail because they can't restrict who they take. They fail because the teacher's union are made up of 85% very liberal democrats who have absolutely no idea how to run a business. They are so worried about following stupid rules that they helped create, that they completely forget the reason why they are there: To educate the children. Colleges are partly in better shape because the students are legal adults and can and do take action. High School teacher's unions know full well that they have an imprisoned student with little choice. Teacher's union have done an excellent job to get parents out of the picture and then they can screw the kids all they want.

 

[BuzzCzar]

Lastly, public schools don't fail because they can't restrict who they take. They fail because the teacher's union are made up of 85% very liberal democrats who have absolutely no idea how to run a business. They are so worried about following stupid rules that they helped create, that they completely forget the reason why they are there: To educate the children. Colleges are partly in better shape because the students are legal adults and can and do take action. High School teacher's unions know full well that they have an imprisoned student with little choice. Teacher's union have done an excellent job to get parents out of the picture and then they can screw the kids all they want.

first off, why make this political? wrong forum.

secondly, your analysis is the typical superficial garbage that you might overhear on AM radio while driving to work if accidentally listening to an idiot

if the snooty white-flighters didnt all go to private school, that would help. if schools could get parents involved, that would be great. if, instead of watching Desperate Housewives or going to their poker night parents actually got involved in a meaningful relationship with the kids, and cared about their education more than just demanding better from the teacher, that would be a start. i taught school in an international private school, almost unanimously the american parents blamed the teacher, while the euro parents blamed the student for a lack of progress. who do you thnk MADE the rules? certainly not the teachers, they HATE having to deal with curriculum guides, etc, that is forced on them by parents in reactionary moves from media like the kind you just regurgitated!

 

[vrjacket]

Note on season ticket sales: I personally heard from Gary Lanier that almost all season tickets were sold except for some of the Jacket's Nest. Now will the season ticket holders just show up for the games? A lot of gold-backed seats go empty on Saturdays; Lord knows those seats were sold. I know some of you (lawbee) hate the idea of Thursday night games, but conversely, others love it. The atmosphere is generally better; I'd rather play JSU on Thursday night than JSU at noon in 95 degree temps. Sometimes you just gotta go to work/school tired and hungover, happy about the good times you had the night before as opposed to fretting incessantly about how tired you'll be the next day.

 

[GTKyle]

thwg, I would argue with you if this were the Falcons. This is Tech. This is your University and it is barely in the black. They're not making much profit as it is.

 

[BarrelORum]

I've long been an advocate for selling every ticket at market value. i'm fine with that. charge me $100 - $200 to the UGA game and let me give to the AT Fund if I want to donate. That makes a lot more sense to me than trying to convince people to pay skyhigh prices to see 5 D1 games this season.

Alright, let me sum this up for you since you're an advocate of market value.

Pay the Tech fund, buy your season tickets, and sell them all on ebay for EVERY game. Whatever you get is the market value, and more than likely, you'll probably break even or make some money. I have 50 yard line seats 7 rows back and I could pay my entire Tech fund and ticket price by selling Miami and FSU games. Of course, I won't because I'll be going to those games.

I think you're attitude sucks and you need to support your school or shut the **** up.

 

[BarrelORum]

Second, whether you want to admit it or not, you really are just being cheap. You love to bitch and moan about Tech sports, but it's really just a business proposition to you. Support the teams or don't, I don't really care. But don't expect your opinions to matter to anyone when we all now know you're really just looking to score cheap tickets.

QFT

 

[gth816f]

I know some of you (lawbee) hate the idea of Thursday night games, but conversely, others love it. The atmosphere is generally better; I'd rather play JSU on Thursday night than JSU at noon in 95 degree temps. Sometimes you just gotta go to work/school tired and hungover, happy about the good times you had the night before as opposed to fretting incessantly about how tired you'll be the next day.

It would be interesting to compare the attendance of Thursday night games vs. Saturday afternoon games against similar teams. I bet the Thursday night game attendance blows the Saturday afternoon attendance away. Most people love night games.

 

[theShaft]

Our section doesn't sell our seats, Section 123 up front.

But if you were on the fence about the change, saw the Spring game, and now the schedule, I wouldn't tear someone up by deciding to sit out for a year.

 

[jl]

thwg- go ask your relatives how long they have been contributing to UGA and buying their seats. For those seats, they have put a lot of money over the years in UGA's coffers. You've misrepresented the facts.

 

[Bunger Henry]

I am leery of posting this here as i might lose my leverage by letting the cat out of the bag. I believe there is absolutely no demand for Tech tix this season at the inflated Tech fund prices.

So, I paid for my seasons without donating. I told them either they give me the same seats as last year or refund my money. I told them next season, if demand is greater, I'll pay the Tech Fund.

I've got to believe they're going to be selling excellent seats in the 3 game packs as there is little demand for $200-$300 per seat Tech fund seats. they have not given my seats away yet so it's not like they have others wanting to buy them.

Do you think i'll be successful?

I bet you could get great tickets by just showing up at the stadium empty-handed and just buying off of someone at the gate. Or shopping on ebay or stubhub.

 

[MacDaddy2]

PROOF that Tech fans do not support the sports program like real fans should

My point is I will not sell my tickets to the opponents, but a lot of "fans" do. I do not appreciate the assholes that bail on the uga game in my section and I have to sit next to those SOB's in our stadium. Thus, I smply choose not to attend at all.

 

[ASimPerson]

It would be interesting to compare the attendance of Thursday night games vs. Saturday afternoon games against similar teams. I bet the Thursday night game attendance blows the Saturday afternoon attendance away. Most people love night games.

I'm lazy, so I was only able to find last year's attendance figures. I'm sure previous years are out there if anyone really wants to look.

UGA 54990
Clemson 54635
VPI 52202 (Thursday)
BC 51112
Army 50242
UNC 45490
Samford 43288

 

[GTKyle]

thwg, the problem with your thinking is that you believe Tech is a big corporation. It's not.