Is there a general NIL thread? Here’s a contribution…

two types of teams: teams that can offer ridiculous money and those that cant. the separation will only get worse. no parity. at least pro leagues have drafts that help even competitive balance.
 
The Champ said:
Imagine how pissed you would have been if you forked over six figures for Jeff Sims only to watch him act like an entitled little pussy; then the Then coach/AD asked for more money.
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This is my only hope. More of this all over the country, but there really are tons and TONS of people willing to pay money for this. It becomes a status thing.
 
Skydog said:
two types of teams: teams that can offer ridiculous money and those that cant. the separation will only get worse. no parity. at least pro leagues have drafts that help even competitive balance.
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I think what this article shows is that there may not be many, if any, teams that can really just buy a whole team full of blue chips. This case really tests a lot of our excuses. If Ohio State, with it's massive enrollment (we have a small student body, a fragmented alumni base, and lots of international folks who don't care about sports), B1G TV money (we need to ditch the ACC so we can get dat money!), playoff appearances, recent championships (winning cures everything!), rabid following (if only we were the primary state school, we would have tons of fans), etc is trying to GoFundMe their crazy monetary obligations to players, then who could really be thriving in this system? Unfortunately, there isn't any database that makes player NIL compensation publicly available, so all of this is speculative. I do think that teams like Alabama and Georgie are benefiting from people assuming that they are paying out hefty sums to players, but I am really curious to see what the average player is making on their squads.

I already don't give a tinker's damn about pro football, and the more college football resembles the NFL, the more apathetic I become.
 
gtGreg768b said:
I think what this article shows is that there may not be many, if any, teams that can really just buy a whole team full of blue chips. This case really tests a lot of our excuses. If Ohio State, with it's massive enrollment (we have a small student body, a fragmented alumni base, and lots of international folks who don't care about sports), B1G TV money (we need to ditch the ACC so we can get dat money!), playoff appearances, recent championships (winning cures everything!), rabid following (if only we were the primary state school, we would have tons of fans), etc is trying to GoFundMe their crazy monetary obligations to players, then who could really be thriving in this system? Unfortunately, there isn't any database that makes player NIL compensation publicly available, so all of this is speculative. I do think that teams like Alabama and Georgie are benefiting from people assuming that they are paying out hefty sums to players, but I am really curious to see what the average player is making on their squads.

I already don't give a tinker's damn about pro football, and the more college football resembles the NFL, the more apathetic I become.
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You bring up an interesting point. I thought that there would be some kind of database that would tell how much a team receives in NIL money at least as a group if not individually. By what you are saying the NIL money at the football factories may be exaggerated. If this is the case there should be plenty of 4 star players constantly in the transfer portal due to the fact that the money they are receiving is not up to their expectations.
 
savbandjacket said:
Just like I decided years ago that I wasn’t going to let a bunch of 17-20-something year olds playing a damned game ruin my weekends, I’ve also decided that I’m not going to pay money to the pockets of a bunch of 17-20-something year olds playing a damned game. They already get preferential treatment over other students who are actual students, and that should be enough.

It’s a damned game. My self worth isn’t tied up in whether my college team wins football games. It makes me happy, but it’s not where I get my identity.
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That’s the great thing about America. You can spend your money the way you want to. If you want to send your money to TV preachers or politicians or your favorite college football players you have the right. Until you run out of money and realize you don’t have the power (money) to influence anybody or anything.
 
Nehru Jacket said:
If this is the case there should be plenty of 4 star players constantly in the transfer portal due to the fact that the money they are receiving is not up to their expectations.
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I've thought all along that there will be some sort of equilibrium that will be reached in a few years from both the NIL and Portal changes. I'm not sure where those thresholds are, but both have to be lower than many believe.

For NIL, it will be when the big schools realize that money they thought would buy a team isn't there. OSU seems to be the first shot across the bow. Smaller budget schools are already seeing it, but we think the landscape isn't going to change. It will. Then, 'prices' will start to normalize.

The portal transfers are similar. There have been so many players entering, either by their own volition or team encouraged to make room on the roster, that there just aren't enough new homes for them. The extra Covid year exacerbated it, particularly when so many players graduated with eligibility remaining. That will be behind us soon. Then, the portal numbers will start coming down and it will be more like recruiting a HS player than shopping at Transfers 'R' Us.
 
savbandjacket said:
Just like I decided years ago that I wasn’t going to let a bunch of 17-20-something year olds playing a damned game ruin my weekends, I’ve also decided that I’m not going to pay money to the pockets of a bunch of 17-20-something year olds playing a damned game. They already get preferential treatment over other students who are actual students, and that should be enough.

It’s a damned game. My self worth isn’t tied up in whether my college team wins football games. It makes me happy, but it’s not where I get my identity.
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I donated to our scholarship fund but have a hard time seeing myself donating to an NIL fund.

I would consider purchasing NIL-related products that I was interested in though.
 
andrew said:
I agree, something will change in the next two or three years. This isn't sustainable.
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We should start an engineers football league. All players take calculus and thermo.

wecoukd beat up on LeHigh, VT, Carnegie Mellon, and MIT.
 
FatJacket said:
We should start an engineers football league. All players take calculus and thermo.
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After experiencing thermo first hand, I don't think I can blame anyone who doesn't want to go anywhere near it
 
GTsapper said:
After experiencing thermo first hand, I don't think I can blame anyone who doesn't want to go anywhere near it
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I only had thermo in baby physics and that was enough to tell me I really didn't want to.
 
GTsapper said:
I'm just glad my professor graded on a curve
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Like my 2nd qtr. Chem prof. I never passed a test in that course, yet made a C, so I figured my failing grades were better than half the class.
 
Akinji07 said:
I’m glad teams like Ohio state get ööööed over. More ööööed it is for traditional factories faster this whole thing will come crashing down.
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NCAA will not suffer Ohio State to fall. They already coordinated with the Big 10 to rework the rules so they could go to the CFP after playing less than half a season during COVID. (over 9-0 Cincinnatti)

During the first CFP season, TCU was #3 and waxxed their final opponent. Got ranked down to #5 anyway so OSU could get in.

The NCAA will step in here sooner rather than later. Whether Congress or courts block NCAA trying to save OSU from NIL is the question.
 
andrew said:
Yeah, my personal opinion is that we are headed to a CBA between schools and student athletes which contains some sort of cap.
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Union leaders be licking their lips. Time to buy that 2nd vacation home.
 
andrew said:
Yeah, my personal opinion is that we are headed to a CBA between schools and student athletes which contains some sort of cap.
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Who is going to enforce such a cap? Seems like it would just be a situation similar to the "old days" where players were paid under the table. You'd have NIL $ (supposedly out in the open) and then under the table $. The gulf between the top factories and everyone else would still be grand canyon sized.

At what point does college football divide (again)? You can have the big factories form a true (semi) pro league and the other 3/4ths of Div. 1 college football can form something else.
 
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