Is there a general NIL thread? Here’s a contribution…

GT98 said:
Who is going to enforce such a cap? Seems like it would just be a situation similar to the "old days" where players were paid under the table. You'd have NIL $ (supposedly out in the open) and then under the table $. The gulf between the top factories and everyone else would still be grand canyon sized.
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With a CBA you could sign players to contracts that regulate NIL, and anyone caught dealing under the table would face severe legal ramifications. That may not completely stop under-the-table $$$, but it would seriously curtail it.
 
andrew said:
With a CBA you could sign players to contracts that regulate NIL, and anyone caught dealing under the table would face severe legal ramifications. That may not completely stop under-the-table $$$, but it would seriously curtail it.
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Who is going to enforce it? The NCAA? The same organization that allowed rampant cheating from the factories for several decades and nailed programs (because they could) for the equivalent of a speeding ticket?

I'm very doubtful that a cap would be agreed to in the first place or that it would really be enforced.

Let college football (at least in this current madness of NIL/portal) implode. Longer run, it would be good for the sport.
 
andrew said:
I donated to our scholarship fund but have a hard time seeing myself donating to an NIL fund.

I would consider purchasing NIL-related products that I was interested in though.
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For the record, I support scholarship contributions, AT Fund, and stuff like that. I don’t care if companies want to pay athletes to endorse their brands or whatever.

What I don’t support is this bullshit idea that fans should be contributing money to NIL collectives to pay college athletes to play a ööööing game.
 
savbandjacket said:
Just like I decided years ago that I wasn’t going to let a bunch of 17-20-something year olds playing a damned game ruin my weekends, I’ve also decided that I’m not going to pay money to the pockets of a bunch of 17-20-something year olds playing a damned game. They already get preferential treatment over other students who are actual students, and that should be enough.

It’s a damned game. My self worth isn’t tied up in whether my college team wins football games. It makes me happy, but it’s not where I get my identity.
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So you will give zero dollars?
 
andrew said:
I donated to our scholarship fund but have a hard time seeing myself donating to an NIL fund.

I would consider purchasing NIL-related products that I was interested in though.
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This is basically where I’m at. I give some (not a lot, really) to Tech Fund, AT Fund, and stuff like that, and I don’t begrudge that. But I’m not supporting directly paying a player to play college football.

I could conceivably see myself buying a jersey or paying a little for an autograph from the next Joe Hamilton (the only Tech autograph I have, I think - I got him to sign a jersey at an Arena football game), which is what I thought the NIL stuff was supposed to be about. I’m still amazed that it devolved to the current state immediately.

JRjr
 
GT98 said:
Who is going to enforce it? The NCAA? The same organization that allowed rampant cheating from the factories for several decades and nailed programs (because they could) for the equivalent of a speeding ticket?

I'm very doubtful that a cap would be agreed to in the first place or that it would really be enforced.

Let college football (at least in this current madness of NIL/portal) implode. Longer run, it would be good for the sport.
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A new organization formed by the schools (primarily the factories), because college football is a cash cow and this form of unregulated NIL will kill that cash cow left unchecked.

The Supreme Court killed their original business model of generating billions of dollars in revenue but capping compensation at cost of attendance, but there's still plenty of money to be made from running a true professional college football league.
 
savbandjacket said:
Just like I decided years ago that I wasn’t going to let a bunch of 17-20-something year olds playing a damned game ruin my weekends, I’ve also decided that I’m not going to pay money to the pockets of a bunch of 17-20-something year olds playing a damned game. They already get preferential treatment over other students who are actual students, and that should be enough.

It’s a damned game. My self worth isn’t tied up in whether my college team wins football games. It makes me happy, but it’s not where I get my identity.
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Ok, but don't expect the team to win on Saturdays then. You can't have it both ways...
 
MACHETE said:
Ok, but don't expect the team to win on Saturdays then. You can't have it both ways...
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If that line is my money going straight to the pockets of “student” athletes, fine. I’m more worried about paying for my own child’s tuition and expenses than I am paying college athletes to get sleeve tattoos.
 
savbandjacket said:
If that line is my money going straight to the pockets of “student” athletes, fine. I’m more worried about paying for my own child’s tuition and expenses than I am paying college athletes to get sleeve tattoos.
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I mean this is a fair point. No one expects you to co tribute money you need to spend somewhere else. But let’s not pretend you dont already care at a level way above the average fan when you have 25,000 plus posts on a sports message board.
 
BigDanT said:
I mean this is a fair point. No one expects you to co tribute money you need to spend somewhere else. But let’s not pretend you dont already care at a level way above the average fan when you have 25,000 plus posts on a sports message board.
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Bitching about the team on a message board is free. Paying money to help win isn’t. “I’m a cheap öööö who won’t give you any money, but why aren’t you winning games?!!” should be our slogan.
 
andrew said:
Yeah, my personal opinion is that we are headed to a CBA between schools and student athletes which contains some sort of cap.
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NIL was the cooked up way to protect college football amateurism. With a CBA college football would change to a professional sport overnight. Once that domino falls not sure what things would look like. Private schools could do whatever they please, but I would imagine governance over state schools could create a legal imbroglio.
 
andrew said:
A new organization formed by the schools (primarily the factories), because college football is a cash cow and this form of unregulated NIL will kill that cash cow left unchecked.

The Supreme Court killed their original business model of generating billions of dollars in revenue but capping compensation at cost of attendance, but there's still plenty of money to be made from running a true professional college football league.
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It’s not just college football that’s in danger in my mind. As people stop donating to AA’s in general and instead to NIL AA’s will be strapped to meet Title IX requirements even more than they are now. that being said getting enough hot female athletes appears to be enough to attract NIL donations in their name so maybe the title IX concerns will work themselves out. And the only female athletes in college will be 8’s and above. WTF I like NIL now!
 
GaTech'06 said:
NIL was the cooked up way to protect college football amateurism. With a CBA college football would change to a professional sport overnight. Once that domino falls not sure what things would look like. Private schools could do whatever they please, but I would imagine governance over state schools could create a legal imbroglio.
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NIL wasn't cooked up though. It was fought every step of the way until they lost in the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court indicated that the ban on paying players directly would likely fall as well, if challenged.

It's going to be very messy, but it's coming. The schools would be wise to get out ahead of it so they can do it on their own terms, unlike what happened with NIL.
 
Akinji07 said:
Bitching about the team on a message board is free. Paying money to help win isn’t. “I’m a cheap öööö who won’t give you any money, but why aren’t you winning games?!!” should be our slogan.
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You think all @savbandjacket or those like him do to support the program is post on Stingtalk?

What you're saying is amounting to griping that people don't find it in themselves to be squeezed to produce even more turnip juice for the program they love.
 
ElCidBUZZingFAN said:
You think all @savbandjacket or those like him do to support the program is post on Stingtalk?

What you're saying is amounting to griping that people don't find it in themselves to be squeezed to produce even more turnip juice for the program they love.
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I find it hard to believe they’re giving much turnip juice when our number one problem is lack of it.
 
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