Isn’t It Coincidental That When GT Left The SEC In 64 …

Leaving the SEC was one factor that tipped Atlanta fandom and Georgia recruiting to Dooley and UGA. Dooley’s relative youth, energy and staff was a factor. AD Joel Eaves brought several Auburn coaches to UGA. He had been my Dad’s basketball coach at Auburn. Dooley and Russell were Auburn men. Russell had been a long time Coach in Atlanta. Eaves himself had coached in the Atlanta system and was instrumental in getting at least two dozen Auburn grads coaching in the Atlanta system , including my Dad.

Anyway, a lot of these coaches new Vince and Erk well. My Dad even played basketball with Vince, a two sport athlete. They networked great and Erk was a huge reason for the recruiting shift. Add the difficulty of building interest as a Southern independent, increasing academic rigor required of engineers, increased TV exposure of college football, and the affect integration would have on Southern football, and it was a variety of factors.
 
You guys are killin me.

If you think a decision made over half a century ago is the root of our problem then you need to take a seat on the bench.

We won a National Championship and played in multiple top 4 bowl games since then.

GT has 2 problems and that has not changed since 1964: a small, and relatively cheap fan base and the Hill.

Join whatever conference you want to but our reflection in the mirror has not changed.

If we end up in a different conference, it won’t be because what we get from them; it’s because of what they think they get from us.

Its every man for himself at this point. You guys sitting around waiting to be chosen in the elementary school game of pick up volleyball might as well go home - there is nothing for you here.

You guys looking for a conference skirt to hide under are part of the problem.
 
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Wrecked said:
Recruiting Hershel Walker and playing for three straight national titles ended any recruiting advantage Tech had left in the state. We have been the little brother ever since.
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"Little brother" is too generous of a description for our position. Little Brothers still put up a strong fight year-in, year-out and even have periods of dominance in-state a la Auburn or Michigan State. We're the birth defect sibling that no one ever talks about. We're the Cal-Berkeley to Georgia's USC or the Vanderbilt to Georgia's Tennessee at this point
 
GoldenIsle said:
No, but I believe we would be a sight better than we are now, or if the ACC implodes and we end up in the AAC. We could just join the Sun Belt and have GSU as our new in state rival.
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In my opinion, Tech has made two giant mistakes, leaving the SEC and not joining the Big Ten. I wonder what Homer Rice would be doing right now if he was our AD. We need somebody to have an unreasonably high vision of Tech sports and sell it to the SEC or the Big Ten. Sometimes, you need a promoter.
 
CiraldoForever said:
In my opinion, Tech has made two giant mistakes, leaving the SEC and not joining the Big Ten. I wonder what Homer Rice would be doing right now if he was our AD. We need somebody to have an unreasonably high vision of Tech sports and sell it to the SEC or the Big Ten. Sometimes, you need a promoter.
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I don't have a problem with leaving the SEC (our cultural rift with them was just a matter of time), but if the rumors of us having a committable offer to go to the B1G were true (which I believe, since Rutgers and Maryland were getting them at that time), HOLY öööö that decision to reject the offer should go down in executive management textbooks as a case study in what not to do
 
GoldenIsle said:
No, but I believe we would be a sight better than we are now, or if the ACC implodes and we end up in the AAC. We could just join the Sun Belt and have GSU as our new in state rival.
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The same select few on here can keep lamenting “the girl I lost at the dance 58 years ago”, and that debate can go on and on, but it is fruitless. Most of those posts are knee jerk suppositions that can be neither proven or disproven.
There are several crucial elements that have to be in order to compete in college football at a high level; namely money and commitment. The big disconnect is how many people in the GT administration are that interested in doing what it takes to compete? The second problem, and maybe it’s solvable, I don’t know; is, yes, GT has a bunch of well heeled alums who have shown little interest in ponying up ridiculous sums of money to buy players or build Star Wars like facilities.
Most of these alums are more interested in continuing to build their businesses than being like that jackwagon guy at Miami who is throwing around millions like Halloween candy.
 
Wrecked said:
Recruiting Hershel Walker and playing for three straight national titles ended any recruiting advantage Tech had left in the state. We have been the little brother ever since.
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I don't think that's the way it would have gone if we had remained in the SEC. Being an independent, especially with the mostly unattractive schedules we ended up having did more harm than Dooley would have been consistently able to do.
 
StraightFresh said:
I don't have a problem with leaving the SEC (our cultural rift with them was just a matter of time), but if the rumors of us having a committable offer to go to the B1G were true (which I believe, since Rutgers and Maryland were getting them at that time), HOLY öööö that decision to reject the offer should go down in executive management textbooks as a case study in what not to do
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I agree. The decision to reject the Big10 invitation and sign this stupid GOR is much worse than the decision to leave the SEC. The decision to leave the SEC was based on principle. The decision to reject the Big 10 made no sense from an athletic, academic or financial perspective.
 
CiraldoForever said:
In my opinion, Tech has made two giant mistakes, leaving the SEC and not joining the Big Ten. I wonder what Homer Rice would be doing right now if he was our AD. We need somebody to have an unreasonably high vision of Tech sports and sell it to the SEC or the Big Ten. Sometimes, you need a promoter.
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We have the number one car salesman from Conyers running the football program. Why don’t we put him to the task?
 
donsue said:
There were reasons why Dodd’s teams, after dominating for most of the 50s, were struggling to win 7 games in the 60s (1966 being the exception). And it wasn’t because Dodd forgot how to coach. Recruiting was becoming more difficult for several reasons, not the least of which was the inflexibility of those on the Hill and the BOR.
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With the emphasis on several reasons.
 
00Burdell said:
You guys are killin me.

If you think a decision made over half a century ago is the root of our problem then you need to take a seat on the bench.

We won a National Championship and played in multiple top 4 bowl games since then.

GT has 2 problems and that has not changed since 1964: a small, and relatively cheap fan base and the Hill.

Join whatever conference you want to but our reflection in the mirror has not changed.

If we end up in a different conference, it won’t be because what we get from them; it’s because of what they think they get from us.

Its every man for himself at this point. You guys sitting around waiting to be chosen in the elementary school game of pick up volleyball might as well go home - there is nothing for you here.

You guys looking for a conference skirt to hide under are part of the problem.
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Why do you think we have a small and relatively cheap fan base? It is because the fan base in this region is a SEC fan base and we took a shat on all of them. That is why despite winning a national championship in 1990 we still didn't fill our little stadium the following year. You are killing me with your inability to strategically plan and think. We've got guys on here that think we lost our fan base because Vince Dooley hired some coaches from Auburn for crying out loud. If you don't think being in the right conference is critical at this point you need to sit this one out. The simple days of teams simply building themselves up from within are over in this college football world controlled by TV contracts and NIL.
 
aeromech said:
Why do you think we have a small and relatively cheap fan base? It is because the fan base in this region is a SEC fan base and we took a shat on all of them. That is why despite winning a national championship in 1990 we still didn't fill our little stadium the following year. You are killing me with your inability to strategically plan and think. We've got guys on here that think we lost our fan base because Vince Dooley hired some coaches from Auburn for crying out loud. If you don't think being in the right conference is critical at this point you need to sit this one out. The simple days of teams simply building themselves up from within are over in this college football world controlled by TV contracts and NIL.
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I don't agree at all. Using your logic why is Vanderbilt not getting more fan support and success than GT? We werr embarrassed about uga taking over BDS last year but that is literally every game at vandy. Nashville is certainly in the middle of SEC country, not only lots of UT fans but lots of fans from other SEC schools. A surprisingly large number of Auburn fans here too. So leaving the SEC has nothing to do with having a "small and cheap" fan base. Having high academic standards generates interest of non-sports fan students and when you're not winning in the most important sport of football you aren't going to grow a fan base. See it at Vandy and sadly we are seeing it here.
 
aeromech said:
Why do you think we have a small and relatively cheap fan base? It is because the fan base in this region is a SEC fan base and we took a shat on all of them. That is why despite winning a national championship in 1990 we still didn't fill our little stadium the following year. You are killing me with your inability to strategically plan and think. We've got guys on here that think we lost our fan base because Vince Dooley hired some coaches from Auburn for crying out loud. If you don't think being in the right conference is critical at this point you need to sit this one out. The simple days of teams simply building themselves up from within are over in this college football world controlled by TV contracts and NIL.
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Even a cursory look at who our students are,why they are here, and where they go after getting out, explains more about our difficulties than leaving the sec. When you add on the historical lack of priority for sports by the very top of our leadership, the unprepared students who dominate cFB, disinterest in STEM programs, and money driven media, you have an explanation that far exceeds having left the sec a half century ago.
 
donsue said:
There were reasons why Dodd’s teams, after dominating for most of the 50s, were struggling to win 7 games in the 60s (1966 being the exception). And it wasn’t because Dodd forgot how to coach. Recruiting was becoming more difficult for several reasons, not the least of which was the inflexibility of those on the Hill and the BOR.
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Pretty much this. Dodd pretty much left the cupboard bare for Bud.
 
Tech has a fan problem. Why do 98% of sidewalk fans in Metro Atlanta gravitate towards UGA. Maybe the inclusive environment? It is all about shouting how bout dem dawgs and partying. Tech fans, and I am one, seem like a bunch of snobby, look at my diploma, types.
 
TechRush said:
Tech has a fan problem. Why do 98% of sidewalk fans in Metro Atlanta gravitate towards UGA. Maybe the inclusive environment? It is all about shouting how bout dem dawgs and partying. Tech fans, and I am one, seem like a bunch of snobby, look at my diploma, types.
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Snobby? Perhaps, especially our leadership when it comes to football, but the students, not so much. There are disadvantages to being on the far right of the normal distribution curve, when it comes to cFB. 98% of said sidewalk fans, are not on the far right hand side.
 
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