jekyll and hyde

This team is pretty bipolar. Maybe next year we won't lose to teams, we should beat. Remains to be seem.
 
Not sure J&H is the right analysis.

UVa - lost starter, backup played poorly
FSU - Unsettled at qb, backup plays well after game out of hand
Miami - lost starter, backup played well after game out of hand

Basically, we have needed a half where our backup qb could settle in without the pressure of having to win the game (fsu/miami).

It is hard to win when your backup plays significant minutes. Add in that out spring and summer practices were probably garbage, which doesn’t help with developing your backups.
 
My thoughts are, GC was so awful that whoever was made interim coach would've had some kind of success. We've been buried in crap coaching for long enough to think that any kind of success is an indication of future results. That's the danger of Key, imo. We just ate a huge-to-us buyout. We are not in a position to entrust an 4-3 (corrected) interim coach who is trying to piece together how to be a HC as he goes.
 
EagleSting said:
That's the danger of Key, imo. We just ate a huge-to-us buyout. We are not in a position to entrust an 3-3 interim coach who is trying to piece together how to be a HC as he goes.
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Key is 4-3.
 
EagleSting said:
My thoughts are, GC was so awful that whoever was made interim coach would've had some kind of success. We've been buried in crap coaching for long enough to think that any kind of success is an indication of future results. That's the danger of Key, imo. We just ate a huge-to-us buyout. We are not in a position to entrust an 4-3 (corrected) interim coach who is trying to piece together how to be a HC as he goes.
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On one hand, turning it around as fast as he did is quite amazing.

On the other hand, I dont think any of the opposing coaching staffs thought they needed to prepare for us, thinking they could just line up mano-a-mano and their mano was better than ours. Brown admitted as much in the press conference.
 
This is the biggest problem hiring first time head coaches. A lot of teams are inconsistent. Same in business. Add that he was thrown to the fire mid season with 5 days of prep…..

Man I’m torn. He was in my top 3, but 3rd…. Tough one. I don’t envy Batt.
 
GTCrew said:
On one hand, turning it around as fast as he did is quite amazing.

On the other hand, I dont think any of the opposing coaching staffs thought they needed to prepare for us, thinking they could just line up mano-a-mano and their mano was better than ours. Brown admitted as much in the press conference.
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It wasn’t gonna be a hard turn around. There’s an abundance of talent on this team, Collins was just that bad of a HC, that everyone looked inept. Take Zamari Walton for instance. Last year, and the beginning of this year, he was a TERRIBLE DB, now, he’s actually playing how he’s supposed to.
 
CarsonNewmanJacket said:
It wasn’t gonna be a hard turn around. There’s an abundance of talent on this team, Collins was just that bad of a HC, that everyone looked inept. Take Zamari Walton for instance. Last year, and the beginning of this year, he was a TERRIBLE DB, now, he’s actually playing how he’s supposed to.
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GC being so bad makes the turnaround harder, not easier. There is a ton of work to be done that is undoing the GC disaster. Look at the punt teams. Yes, we are light years better, but we still aren’t good. We aren’t getting blocked, but we still need to work on technique and coverage.
 
GTCrew said:
On one hand, turning it around as fast as he did is quite amazing.

On the other hand, I dont think any of the opposing coaching staffs thought they needed to prepare for us, thinking they could just line up mano-a-mano and their mano was better than ours. Brown admitted as much in the press conference.
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No doubt. I'm by no means bashing Key. He's done better than I thought. I don't envy Batt in the least. An interim coach should make it hard for the AD to decide, and he's absolutely done that. If we didn't just eat a huge buyout, we're be in a much better position to hedge that bet and make in the HC. To me it has nothing to do with Key, but the position we are in.
 
WracerX said:
GC being so bad makes the turnaround harder, not easier. There is a ton of work to be done that is undoing the GC disaster. Look at the punt teams. Yes, we are light years better, but we still aren’t good. We aren’t getting blocked, but we still need to work on technique and coverage.
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Not really. All Key did was change the blocking scheme, and made Shanahan get the punt off sooner. That takes maybe a day or two of practice to fix.
 
GTCrew said:
On one hand, turning it around as fast as he did is quite amazing.

On the other hand, I dont think any of the opposing coaching staffs thought they needed to prepare for us, thinking they could just line up mano-a-mano and their mano was better than ours. Brown admitted as much in the press conference.
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Exactly. We've been a bye week game in and game out for 3 years. They had no real reason to change that mindset. We knew Key was different, but that doesn't necessarily mean he is good. Shoot, I may be eating a lot of crow in the future for this. Who knows. Why do you have to make it difficult and actually be likable, Key?
 
CarsonNewmanJacket said:
Not really. All Key did was change the blocking scheme, and made Shanahan get the punt off sooner. That takes maybe a day or two of practice to fix.
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That’s my point. He fixed the easy stuff, but is still left with a below average punt unit. That can be fixed, but it will take the off season.

Nobody could have turned that unit into a good unit overnight. And nobody can make it a weapon (see Uva and Miami units success) without an off season.
So the ‘turnaround’ is from horrific to below average. That isn’t necessarily going to be the case next season.

We have managed to win 4 close games with the unit we have. Bring them to average and Duke and VT aren’t close and maybe Uva flips.
 
EagleSting said:
No doubt. I'm by no means bashing Key. He's done better than I thought. I don't envy Batt in the least. An interim coach should make it hard for the AD to decide, and he's absolutely done that. If we didn't just eat a huge buyout, we're be in a much better position to hedge that bet and make in the HC. To me it has nothing to do with Key, but the position we are in.
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Doesn't our financial position make it more likely that Key gets the job? Because we'll almost certainly be able to get him for less than our other options, and, more importantly, he wouldn't have the leverage to force a huge buyout into the contract.
 
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