Mac Mcwhorter instead of CG

Bless Coach Mac's heart, he's never been a co-ordinator, not to mention a Div 1A head coach.
A million thanks for what he did in the Seattle Bowl; we all needed that win. Period.
But if Braine had hired him and Mac had the injuries and QB play that CG has had...well, I hate to think what these boards would be like.
 
Beeware...Tennessee tried to hire Mac as an OL coach not a head coach..........Why has Mac never been offered a Head Coaching Job?
 
Ramblinwise - puhleeze. Dooley came from awebern. Royal came from ou. Graves came from GT. Dye came from ugag. That is not a reason for a decision
 
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Ramblinwise - puhleeze. Dooley came from awebern. Royal came from ou. Graves came from GT. Dye came from ugag. That is not a reason for a decision
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Only one of you had the vision to mention Ralph Friedgen and how long it took him to get the head coaching job at his former alma mater. Sure it would have been a crapshoot but after the Seattle
Bowl I could not help but compare Mac and Coach Dodd, whom I don't think was ever a coordinator or AHC either;Ramblin Wise I generally agree with you but I think the comment about adulteration was specious and beneath your usually classy level of post. Btw, can that dog hunt birds yet?

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To those who keep saying that if Mac is so hot why didn't other D-1 school hire him, would you be making the same argument about Friedgen for the Tech job if O'Leary had left at the end of 2000 (before Maryland came open) instead of 2001. Friedgen wanted the Maryland job when Vanderlinden was hired. Would you have made the argument in 2000, why should Tech hire Friedgen when is own Alma Mater didn't want him? The decison on McWhorter should have been based on whether or not he could win at Tech not on what other D-1 schools do.
 
Though his ability as a head coach is questionable, I would still like to have him as an assistant on the offense. The team showed more emotion than they had all season in the Seattle Bowl. Coach Mac leaves and they're despondent and emotionless. coincidence? Maybe not.

Assistants like Coach Mac give us that all-important "chemistry" we haven't been able to find for so long.

All things being equal, I still thing what was done to Coach Mac was unfair and pathetic. Who here honestly thinks they considered Coach Mac equally for job? Call me cynical, but I think the decision was made before Mac walked into the office for his interview.
 
I just read a post referring to Mac McWhorter. Who would have liked to seen him in CG’s place? Where is Mac now?
 
McWorter would have been the Ray Goff of GT. Close to his players, has some success early maybe, but, in the long run, he wouldn't have panned out.

I like CG, and I believe he will work out once all the kinks (and injuries) are fixed.
 
Amen! Mac would have been the wrong choice.

Mac is at Texas as an assistant.
 
71Bee, OfficiallyBuzz, 3518techie, and goldeagle, all of you have answered your own question with the people you used for examples.

Ralph Friegden had been an experienced OC in 1A and the pros. He was considered one of the best in both college and the pros. He was given the award as OC coach of the year at GT. Many peers wondered why he had not been considered prior to the Maryland offer. He was well qualified.

Gailey was well qualified. He had won a national championship at 1AA as head coach, he was head coach in a now defunct pro league, he was recognized as one of the best OCs in the pros, and he had experience as head coach with the Cowboys.

Now, bring up Mac's Bio and match it with these two you have used as examples. If you cannot see the difference, it is no use in debating you on this issue, as you have your head in the sand.

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I am curious why you think MacWhorter would have been the wrong choice. I am not saying you are wrong, but the guy has tons of college experience, knows the state of Georgia and the players played inspired for him.
 
Mac McWhorter would have been an outstanding choice and the LOGICAL choice to continue and build on Coach O'leary's fabulous turnaround at TECH.

Mac is widely regarded as an outstanding recruiter, and one of the very best offensive line coaches in college football. He is unsurpassed as a recruiter and recruiting Georgia was his specialty. He was named assistant head coach virtually everywhere he coached due to his outstanding leadership ability. He was immediately named interim head coach at TECH when O'leary left and did an OUTSTANDING job under the most trying of circumstances.

Mac would have been able to maintain most of an outstanding staff and have the mature judgement to hire qualified coaches when necessary. His positive, can do, outlook rubs off on his fellow coaches and players. Even coach O'leary was quoted as saying that Mac was the most positive coach he had ever been around.

It was an absolute and total disgrace to ma TECH the way Mac and the other assistant coaches were treated by Dave Braine after the ultra-successful Seattle Bowl victory over the #9BCS Stanford Cardinal coached by Ty Willingham.

Mac is currently the tight end coach at Texas and they are extremely pleased to have a coach of his caliber. Tennessee also tried very hard to hire him among others.

Sometimes all a 30 year veteran like Mac needs is the opportunity to show what he can do....much like Miami did when they rejected the common grass is always greener approach by promoting from within and winning a national title.

By not promoting Mac and not keeping an outstanding group of assistant coaches and recruiters and not keeping the momentum of 5 straight bowl games and 5 straight Top 25 finishes, Dave Braine has shown that he is totally unable to learn from the (not too distant) past. We are all paying for and will continue to pay for a long long time for the Dave Braine folly.
 
Ahsoisee,(please feel free to call me 71)

You are right about RF's resume and his talent. My point was/is with all his qualifications he still was over 50 when he got his first chance at HC and when he did it was on a very meager offer, $ wise.

If I am right, picking a HC is as difficult as choosing a CEO. How do you sort out the good ones (it's not by resume)?

Why do you think the Good Ole Boy network is so deeply entrenched in Division 1-A?

BTW, I'm not a fan of picking Mac. The river between Athens and Atlanta is too wide to ever make that work. I just wanted to point out that Mac may are may not be good enought to be a successful HC, hard to tell.

If you can't tell the good ones from the bad ones, at least surround yourself with the ones you know; right DB?
 
I don't have any strong feelings on Coach Mac except that it did not seem like he got a shot at all for the HC position.

I think that winning programs ought to be in position to promote from within when their HC takes a higher profile job, i.e. O' Leary to ND, B. Davis to NFL, etc. Obvously, if the HC in a program is fired or resigns (Davies, Donnan, etc.), it probably won't happen.

My philosophy here is that if you have a solid, winning team (which assumes you have good assistants) you should BE ABLE to promote from within to keep some continuity. It helps with the current staff, current players and recruiting. The only assumption is that when you have an assistant gets the opportunity and upsets the apple cart. Obviously, everyone has their own unique style, but my assumption here is that programs should hire a staff that has similar philosophies, demeanors, etc. As assistants leave for other opportunities, fill the position with people who fit the mold.

The next best alternative would be to get another COLLEGE coach (either HC or coordinator) because they know how to recruit and motivate.

I am certainly not calling for Gailey's head or anything, but it does not surprise me that we have drop off this year, although some say it started when Fridge left. I realize there are many factors involved - injuries, new quaterback, etc. That said, I think that, at this time, the biggest problem is a new coach with a different coaching style than his predecessor and one who has not coached college kids in a long time. I believe it is a learning experience for him. Time will tell if he can make the adjustment.
 
71, I have no qualms with your last post. I agree with you, it is difficult to determine who will turn out to be the best coach.

It is a gamble at best. It is like throwing dice, except those that have figured out the odds will beat those of us who no nothing about the cubes. However, luck plays a minor role.

AugustaJacket, I also have no qualms about hiring from within. I think it is the best route if you have the best qualified candidates, but hiring from within cannot be the only criteria.

Case in point is Tech. Mac had "no" qualifications to indicate he would make a good head coach other than one game. His resume does not impress anyone as far as becoming a head coach. Tie that to the fact he was a UGA football player and alumni, and you have case for running the AD out of the country if he does not succeed.

O'Brien was ready to leave Tech for Notre Dame and interviewed for several pro positions following that. His resume does not impress anyone either. His only year without Friegden ended below expectations for a year when Tech was picked to be in the top ten. His only claim to fame was the OC performance in the bowl game, and, again, you cannot promote someone on one game.

Roof and Spencer are the only two valid candidates remaining. Roof would have been next in line as he was the DC, but he also wavered and would have left Tech and followed O'Leary to Notre Dame. His resume was not very impressive, other than playing for Tech and being the DC at Tech. His defense was questioned during his tenure at this post. So, strike him from the list.

I claim Spencer had the most going for him, except it would have been difficult for the administration to consider him over Roof, since Roof was the DC. Spencer's resume looks pretty impressive, but he needed a little more time with more exposure. Strike him from the list.

Now, Gailey appears with a most impressive resume (see stats from a previous post), he was recommended to Braine by a past great Tech football player and many of Gailey's peers.

It was a no-brainer (excuse the pun), any AD in the world would have chosen Gailey over the others. Yes, you chose from within when the candidates meet the requirements. You go outside the organization when internal candidates do not meet the requirements, and you find a great candidate elsewhere as your new CEO.

Does that mean, Gailey automatically becomes the next great coach at Tech? No, but you have used the most preferred procedures and rolled the dice. You feel you have made the right choice because the odds are on your side of the roll.

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One of the best reasons that I've heard for picking CG was that- maybe not then, but going forward CG's superior credentials/exp would pay off.Well,I don't have strong feelings but I do know"in the long run we will all be dead".
There is got to be positive link between the present and the future.Almost certainly Mac would have been an immediate stable force for this year coming off the Bowl win.This year's results are the linchpin for recruiting for the team health for the next 4 yrs or so
Braine rolled the dice and said he would bet on the future and let the present take care of itself .Well,he and we ,at this point,have lost that bet.
 
Agree with AlaGold. Mac would have provided transition chemistry, which is half the battle. This team lacks confidence. You can sense the roof caving in once something bad happens. Retaining at least some members of the previous staff would have enabled the coaches to better motivate and provide some stability.

The belief that one needs to be a "coordinator" or division I head coach as a prerequisite is baloney. A good coach is a good coach. Åfter all, as we have all found out, GOL never even played in college and yet turned out to be qualified at this level. Prerequisites ought to be - preparation, ability to recruit, personality to inspire the team and community as well as handle the media.

I would make an educated guess Braine got enamored with Gailey's reputation vs. actual facts from interviewing. Such as, exactly who will you bring on as assistant coaches? What will be your approach to overseeing a gameplan you disagree with (BOB this year)?What is your approach on discipline?

The next search committee should learn from our mistakes on this one before our next go round.
 
Father WASP no offense but what is the "right" answer to the questions you pose? Continuity is a good thing, but look at ND which many have used as an example of why there should be no transition period. How many hold over coaches are in South Bend? Look at UNC's experiment with Torbush. The players wanted him but it still turned out bad. Now with Bunting they have a UNC man who brings an extremely high level of enthusiasm and love for the university and they've won one game.

My point is there is no right answer. Braine I am sure went by his gut after interviews. Whether he will turn our right or wrong will be seen. And for those who are slamming Braine all I can go on is results. His choice for BB coach was great, our athletic program overall doing as well as it ever has. He was the guy who kep Beamer when the alumns wanted him out. So I'm willing to give him the chance to do his job.
 
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