New Thread With A Different Perspective…

[AugustaJacket]

Yeah. You’re right. It was the defense that had 7 straight drives against BG with no yards or points. I guess it was also the defense who did nothing but turn the ball over in the 4th quarter yesterday. Hell, the defense gave GT chance after chance after chance to blow Wake out and the offense sputtered time and time again.

Do some of you fail to watch the offense in the 2nd half of games? It sure as hell seems that way. GT scored LESS points against BC than EVERY other team they played including Holy Cross.

NIU - 27
Holy Cross - 28
FSU - 31
UofL - 56
UVA - 24
Army - 24
GT - 23

You think our D is adequate. Ok.

 

[USCJacket]

You think our D is adequate. Ok.

No. I don’t think either side of the ball is adequate 5 years post the 3O. This program still doesn’t have a middle tier OL in the ACC. This is the weakest RB position since the early 2000’s. TE depth isn’t where it needs to be for this O. The WR depth and talent is there, GT just lacks size.

The overall defense has been bad maybe 1 time since 2008. The defensive issues have been a CPJ, former HC and CBK issue. Nothing new from what we’ve seen since Tenuta left the building.

 

[AugustaJacket]

No. I don’t think either side of the ball is adequate 5 years post the 3O. This program still doesn’t have a middle tier OL. The GG defense has been bad maybe 1 time since 2008. The defensive issues have been a CPJ, former HC and CBK issue.

I honestly didn't assume that you did, but it seems you assumed my mentioning D in MY response that I am ok with the O. No biggie but not true at all. OP was asking what 1 thing might have us 6-1 instead of 3-4. I didn't go with the 6-1 thing, but I do think, esp after games like yesterday where we surrender a late lead, we'd "have a better record" with a better D. Can work both ways obviously, and you correctly point out that the O just disappears at times. I mentioned it in another thread, but that very late 3Q after we take lead to mid-4Q period was just bewildering. Luckily we were able to stop them on some early 2nd half drives after giving up a chunk play, but that wasn't the case once we scored that last time. There's simply no reason why a 4 and 1 turns into a TD sprint and then you have a huge hole open up in essentially same spot for their RB to gash us for an eventual TD. Then, there's the long pass to their TE to set up their go ahead score on what appeared to be a busted play. In all fairness, the INT by King was awful in that same span.

I've seen the O get it going at times while frustratingly disappearing at others. But, overall, I think we'd have to say it's improved over what we saw the last few years, and it has given us late leads in games. Poor tackling early in the season has gotten somewhat better (aside from BG which was atrocious on both sides of the ball). But, aside from WF, we are still getting no pressure up front. That helped BC move the ball yesterday. And, maybe related, we seem to give up the big play all too often.

All in all, this team is just not very good. There are flashes here and there, but there is little to no consistency.....on either side.

 

[BackstreetBuzz]

Our position groups relative to the ACC:

QB average
RB below average
WR average
TE bottom
OL below average

DL bottom
LB bottom
DB below average

P average
PK average
KO top

C bottom

 

[USCJacket]

I honestly didn't assume that you did, but it seems you assumed my mentioning D in MY response that I am ok with the O. No biggie but not true at all. OP was asking what 1 thing might have us 6-1 instead of 3-4. I didn't go with the 6-1 thing, but I do think, esp after games like yesterday where we surrender a late lead, we'd "have a better record" with a better D. Can work both ways obviously, and you correctly point out that the O just disappears at times. I mentioned it in another thread, but that very late 3Q after we take lead to mid-4Q period was just bewildering. Luckily we were able to stop them on some early 2nd half drives after giving up a chunk play, but that wasn't the case once we scored that last time. There's simply no reason why a 4 and 1 turns into a TD sprint and then you have a huge hole open up in essentially same spot for their RB to gash us for an eventual TD. Then, there's the long pass to their TE to set up their go ahead score on what appeared to be a busted play. In all fairness, the INT by King was awful in that same span.

I've seen the O get it going at times while frustratingly disappearing at others. But, overall, I think we'd have to say it's improved over what we saw the last few years, and it has given us late leads in games. Poor tackling early in the season has gotten somewhat better (aside from BG which was atrocious on both sides of the ball). But, aside from WF, we are still getting no pressure up front. That helped BC move the ball yesterday. And, maybe related, we seem to give up the big play all too often.

All in all, this team is just not very good. There are flashes here and there, but there is little to no consistency.....on either side.

You and I and I think everyone can agree on a few things. The offense overall has improved slightly. But coming off a bye week, it was pretty bad when it mattered the most yesterday. 4th quarter. Unfortunately that was the same issue against Louisville.

The defense is an absolute liability. Again, this has been a broken record since 2008. Difference is, GT doesn’t have an offense to bail them out like they did a majority of the time under CPJ.

Closest thing I see now is what’s going on at USC under Alex Grinch. USC is pretty much a video game on O, with the future #1 pick / Heisman winner at QB. Leads USC to a late TD and the lead with just over 1 minute left. Utah’s 3rd string QB leads Utah to the easy FG as time expires.