Now more than ever, we need to schedule

TechGator1066 said:
Some people call it D-II instead of D-I FCS; just get used to it and let it go. In the end it's just semantics.
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I've seen about three people say this, but no one who knows about football calls it Div. II. Div. II is Div. II. Teams like Georgia Southern, McNeese State, Montana, Appalachian State, etc. play in FCS (formerly Div. I-AA). It's not a huge deal to me what you call it, but don't say "eh, it's the same thing, whatever." I have never heard a sports analyst say, "It's really Div. I-AA, but let's just call it Div. II because a lot of people do that."
 
Maybe it's a sign of people being positive about the team again that we're debating the pitfalls of being an undefeated ACC team. But we're one game into a new regime, with a brand "new" (ie: old) system in place that will put us, for the time being, into the gimmick offense category.

Only one (1) team has been left out of a national title game after going undefeated in the BCS system. I won't hold my breath waiting for it again. And, I'm sure that loads of schools will now willingly use up an OOC against a team that runs an offense like ours that is tough to prepare for. If anything, I'd say that a successful Paul Johnson makes it even harder for us to schedule the teams that fans want to see. Which is all this thread is really about.

Personally, I don't care who we schedule as long as it is a game that will help us win the one after Thanksgiving. If St. Mary's School for the Blind and Retarded helps us win the only game that matters, then it is the right game to schedule.
 
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As long as stokan (skokan whatever his name is) is going to try to shove our face in it every year with the chicken classic, we should always play our first game of the year on the road against the very best team we can.

USC
ND (we do that anyway)
Nebraska
PSU
Texas
Arizona (we did that to when they were #1. So it ain't like it would be something new)
Pitt
Kansas

Anyone. But a real D1 team on the road. Get one road game out of the way. Play it tough and roll it out there.

And then, in our off years, when we have to play in the Peach Bowl, at the trophy accectance award after the game, turn our back on skobutcan and leave the damn trophy in the middle of the field.
 
Tex,

Don't understand why you are so negative toward Gary Stokan. I've had occasion to meet him and he's a very decent guy. The Peach Bowl deal is an ACC deal, not just GT. Gary doesnt have an iron hand in it completely.
 
texstinger said:
As long as stokan (skokan whatever his name is) is going to try to shove our face in it every year with the chicken classic, we should always play our first game of the year on the road against the very best team we can.

USC
ND (we do that anyway)
Nebraska
PSU
Texas
Arizona (we did that to when they were #1. So it ain't like it would be something new)
Pitt
Kansas

Anyone. But a real D1 team on the road. Get one road game out of the way. Play it tough and roll it out there.

And then, in our off years, when we have to play in the Peach Bowl, at the trophy accectance award after the game, turn our back on skobutcan and leave the damn trophy in the middle of the field.
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You're takin it too personally.
 
Well, this is the first comment I have made on the chicken classic. I have followed what many have said about the cluckers passing out ugag crap when they played at our field last year. And I have followed what many have said about the chicken classic hurting GT and the ASC not caring.

So maybe all those folks were wrong as well, but have not heard anyone say that.

And I still say it would be smart for GT to have its' first game on the road against the best team possible.

Oh yeah, I take GT football very seriously, but not personally.

Without apology.:D
 
I thought about this a lot....We need to agressively

push for a game with UT, UF, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Auburn, someone of that calibre for Labor Day night primetime in Florida somewhere next year I.E. Orlando, Tampa exct... It would be very possible, U.T. is playing tonight and Fsu and Miami did this thing for a few years on Labor Day night to open up the season...We need to pursue this to beef up our schedule, this is the one thing (Drad has not done (Beefing up our schedule with quality opponents) that bothers me )

If you think about it, we would get a lot of national exposure and IF, P.J. gets us back to where we can compete for National Championships, we will have 2 good OOC games (with Ugag and this new opponent) that would give no one the argument that we don't play a tough enough schedule to be deserving of the the MNC game if we are unbeaten.
 
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I wouldn't mind another big OOC game, but to suggest that if we were undefeated, which would include a win over ugag, and would not be considered in the national championship discussion is silly. We'll always have one other decent game, and as much as we hate them beating ugag legitimizes a schedule.
 
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ncjacket said:
I wouldn't mind another big OOC game, but to suggest that if we were undefeated, which would include a win over ugag, and would not be considered in the national championship discussion is silly. We'll always have one other decent game, and as much as we hate them beating ugag legitimizes a schedule.
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Do not underestimate the perception of the ACC now...We are REALLY getting beat up nationally in the press...

If we cruised through our schedule and barely beat a Ugag team, we could very well get shunned in a MNC game...Especially if there was a 1 loss Sec or Pac 10 team....That is a real possibilty...

I was reading the Fsu board this morning and a good point was made, UT is the only Sec team that might schedule us...Most Sec teams do not schedule Quality OOC games...The poster pointed out that Ugag NEVER dreamed Arizona State would be a good team back a few years ago when they scheduled that game...

We need to make a strong push to schedule future games with UT.....A lot of history in that series and would also make a lot of Alumni happy...A WIN- WIN for us to get UT on our schedule....
 
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1gtfan said:
If we cruised through our schedule and barely beat a Ugag team, we could very well get shunned in a MNC game...Especially if there was a 1 loss Sec or Pac 10 team....That is a real possibilty...
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I'm calling shenanigans on this one. To suggest that the sportswriters and coaches and BCS wizards would allow a repeat of the Auburn debacle is living in the same fantasy realm that UGA fans live in. Look at THE Ohio State last year. They played a weak schedule, and poof, they ended up in the MNC game. The only way we're shunned from an MNC game with a 13-0 record is if there's two other schools from BCS conferences that are undefeated. Last season proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that a goose egg in the loss column goes a very long way in this sport.
 
I also call bull.

2010
ACC Home: NC State, Virginia, Miami, Duke
ACC Away: Clemson, North Carolina, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest
Nonconference Home: South Carolina State, Mississippi,
Middle Tennessee State
Nonconference Away: Georgia

That plus an ACC championship game would be a BCS title berth without a doubt.

Ole Miss, UGA is as tough out of conference as anyone who has made the NCG the last few years.

Of course going undefeated at all is highly unlikely.
 
Let's say we go undeafeated and are 13-0 in a given season, we could very well get shut out of the MNC game because of the perception nationwide now of just how weak the ACC is...This could very well happen in the future.
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After Auburn was hedged out of the NC while undefeated, they changed the formula to appease them. The new formula essentially guarantees that any undefeated BCS team will not be leapfrogged by any other BCS team with a loss. That's just how the math works.

So actually, no, you're wrong. The clearest and most direct path to the NC game is to go undefeated in a crappy conference. We're halfway there.
 
beej67 said:
So actually, no, you're wrong. The clearest and most direct path to the NC game is to go undefeated in a crappy conference. We're halfway there.
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This is true. However, I think everyone would agree that if we went 12-1 with an ACC championship this year, we would be passed over on a trip to the title game in favor of a two loss SEC champ or probably even a 2 loss Pac-10 team. Not as big of a deal, but still something to think about.

What I am more concerned with, though, and I am really not sure how feasible this is, is the ACC losing its autobid. Once that happens, there pretty much is no path to the title game other than maybe going undefeated twice. Now, with all of the big names in our conference, I don't think the ACC would ever lose its autobid permanently...but is it possible for it to be suspended for a couple of years?
 
gth816f said:
What I am more concerned with, though, and I am really not sure how feasible this is, is the ACC losing its autobid. Once that happens, there pretty much is no path to the title game other than maybe going undefeated twice. Now, with all of the big names in our conference, I don't think the ACC would ever lose its autobid permanently...but is it possible for it to be suspended for a couple of years?
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You're afraid that a bunch of money hungry Jackasses like Slive, Swofford and Delaney would vote one of the boys out of the club? Especially the one that has the two biggest draws on the basketball side? Remember, kicking the ACC down to the kid's table means that they either have to promote one of the little guys up, or they lose 12 respectable teams, including the U and Free Shoes. It will never happen. The ACC will need to continously and egregiously blow hard for a sustained period of time for this to even be a conversation at the commissioner retreat.
 
gth816f said:
What I am more concerned with, though, and I am really not sure how feasible this is, is the ACC losing its autobid.
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No. Not with the U, Clems Son, Va Tech and F$U. The ACC still throws huge dollars around. The Big 10 has been abyssmal as well and it'll never lose its auto-bid.
 
/agree with nedleeds.

The ACC brings too much cash to be thrown out of the autobid system for at least the next 5 years. If we suck this bad 5 years running, then yeah, eyebrows will start to get raised, but for now we're fine.
 
beej67 said:
/agree with nedleeds.

The ACC brings too much cash to be thrown out of the autobid system for at least the next 5 years. If we suck this bad 5 years running, then yeah, eyebrows will start to get raised, but for now we're fine.
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The following coaches need to be fired immediately:
Bowden
Bowden
Groh

That should fix our conference.
 
GTKyle said:
The following coaches need to be fired immediately:
Bowden
Bowden
Groh

That should fix our conference.
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Bowden Junior has probably used up his last continue in Clemson anyways. I'm sure, unless he pulls out an ACC title, he's doomed.

St. Bobby will never be fired as long as he keeps drinking the unicorn blood that sustains his life. He'll go the day after someone puts a headshot on the zombie that is Paterno, so that St. Bobby can retire as the Greatest* coach ever.

*not to be confused with smartest, most ethical, or best choice for his players.
 
Allen Koholic said:
Bowden Junior has probably used up his last continue in Clemson anyways. I'm sure, unless he pulls out an ACC title, he's doomed.

St. Bobby will never be fired as long as he keeps drinking the unicorn blood that sustains his life. He'll go the day after someone puts a headshot on the zombie that is Paterno, so that St. Bobby can retire as the Greatest* coach ever.

*not to be confused with smartest, most ethical, or best choice for his players.
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What sucks is now St. Bobby and Zomba-Paterno are tied and will simply coach until one drops dead on the sideline as neither one wants to lose that record. The sad thing for F$U fans is that Jimbo-Roscoe-Pee-Cole-Train Fischer has been tagged as the heir, and he is an utter failure as a recruiter and a head coach. Now if St. Richt ever gets tired of losing 2 games a year in the SEC and wants to get to the BCS every year he'll take the F$U job from Bobby's cold clammy dead pasty paws.
 
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