One of the better REALIST posts I've read..

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and unbelievably enough, I found it on Buzzoff. This was posted by WipeMyGailey in reference to a friend's words. Its particularly interesting to think about all the dead weight Chan has hired or tried to hire during his tenure.

Nix by all means is to blame, right along with Gailey

He is the only coach Reggie Ball has ever had at Tech.

You mention we have a QB who likes to back up and throw off his back foot, and seem to think the coach has no responsibility for these shortcomings.

Those are mechanical and fundamental issues. What the hell do you think the

coach is for? How does it make you feel when you see freshmen on other

teams, like Riley Skinner, who was under pressure all game, got sacked 4 times, but still stepped UP in the pocket, stepped into a throw and hit a strike 40 yards down field to set up the game winner?

Reggie's mechanics are atrocious. When he steps into a pass, he throws a decent ball because he has a strong arm, but his fundamentals are so erratic, it shouldn't suprise anyone that the results so often stink.

And the big problem most people on here don't realize is that the bigger problem is the system with regards to our passing offense.

We threw 3 balls out of 29 between the hashes. A high school coach will tell you the hardest area of the field to defend is between the hashes. You would think we might run some crossing paterns and get Calvin in the middle against a linebacker in a zone, or else let a corner chase him all the way across the field (good luck), but no, we're forced to have to make the toughest throws in the game outside the numbers OVER AND OVER. Godsey threw for over 400 yards against Clemson and Virginia by killing teams over the middle when he wasn't taking what teams were giving us and checking to the hitches and outs. And don't tell me Reggie is too short to throw in the middle of the field. Joe Hamilton used to pick teams apart across the middle. You look at Calvin and he's often double teamed, so what do we do?

We triple team him by having him run routes outside the numbers where the sideline is the third defender.

What's the easiest way to beat a double team? Run a freaking slant! You get inside the corner and the safety over the top can't make the play, yet we NEVER do it. We run Calvin on long double moves that take 10 seconds to develop.

That brings me to the other problem. There is no flexibility in the passing game. I was in the program when Godsey and Hamilton were here. You see a soft corner playing loose man or cover three, and we're throwing a hitch or a quick out and the ball is there out of the break. Calvin Johnson has the best body of any WR in all of college football, so you don't think he can't box a guy out on a hitch? In the good old days, we would change the routes at the line of scrimmage, or one of the bread and butter plays was "all choice", where the receivers would run option routes based soley on reading the coverage. With Nix/Gailey, the play is called based on what they THINK the defense will do. Sometimes they're right, but if they're wrong we have to run the play anyway.

For instance, on 2nd and 10 on the last drive Calvin had 8-10 yards of cushion. If we could have checked the route based on the presnap read, we could have thrown an out or a hitch and picked up the first down. What happened? The corner is in loose coverage and we throw a bomb 20 yards over Calvin's head and 10 yards over the corner's head who was playing loose enough to get a great break on the ball and would have picked it off had it not been in the next zip code.

That falls on Gailey and Nix. People don't realize how often we used to check plays in the Friedgen/pre-Gailey O'Brien system. In the current offense, all we have is a built in bubble screen to Calvin on run plays if Reggie likes the matchup when Calvin is in the slot. We hit it a lot this year and it was successful, but it's not enough.

It's a travesty that redshirt freshman like Riley Skinner and Matt Stafford can come to the line of scrimmage, get a presnap ready against the defense (especially one like ours that disguises so well) and then regularly change plays to get the offense out of disasterous plays so you can live to play another down.

Why do you think we waste so many timeouts? We come to the line of scrimmage, we see a look we don't like, and our QB who has started 50 games can't get us out of a play. And we have a head coach who is a former NFL OC, yet we have one of the most basic and least intuitive offenses in the country!

Pat Nix was what, 3-19 as a head coach in DII ball? He had never coached at the I-A level before coming to Tech, and he cut his teeth under Gailey in a dumbed down pro-offense that was never better than 75th in the nation and more routinely closer to 100th.

How can you not blame Nix and consequently Gailey!? Look at his resume!

Find another offensive coordinator in the ACC or another major conference who is LESS qualified! Everyone loves to hate Bill O'Brien and might say he was less qualified, but the numbers he put up with AJ Suggs, even after Gailey dumbed down the offense, were the best we've had in Gailey's tenure at Tech, and that was with the QB Gailey gave up on in favor of freshman Reggie Ball the next year, so don't pull the "Reggie just isn't very good it's not Nix or Gailey's fault that he's the best we got" cop out! We all know Godsey set the single season Tech passing record with over 3,000 yards under O'Brien, with Billy calling the plays and Goose checking at the line.

If you have a fourth year starter who isn't developed enough to de-Mickey Mouse your offense with and let the kid think at the line of scrimmage then you should have never went with him to begin with. That or you should have been in the Darren McFadden tricked out high school wing T offense exclusively.

Gailey doesn't need to go just yet so all the recruits don't bail on us, because Giff Smith and Geoff Collins have put together a great class. But Nix? You think anyone wants to come play for this offense? I hope you get offered the Tulane job. Can you imagine the sack on this guy. He's been associated with Division IA offenses ranked between 75th and 105th and he thinks he's qualified to be a head coach at the Division I level? Yeah, I'm interested in being CEO of Microsoft, maybe I'll send over my resume.

Truly pathetic.

There's a reason that the only kids in our program from the last 5 years that are contributing in the NFL played under Tenuta on the defensive side of the ball. He gets results. Smith, Butler, Landry, Wilkinson, Hargrove.

Sure there are a couple offensive guys on rosters, but the point is glaring.

And don't say it's because we load our best recruits on defense because Gailey is an offensive coach like some of these clowns say. Do you realize how little sense that makes. Spurrier used to put every athlete he had at Duke on his offense and he would tell his defensive coaches, "What are you still doing at the office? all you gotta do is get 2 stops a half and we'll win!" And he did something Gailey couldn't do, win the ACC, and don't tell me it's because the conference is tougher now, because this year was pathetic. To suggest as I've heard many that Gailey intentionally puts our best prospects on the defense and that's why our defense is always our strongsuit is preposterous. We recruit positions where we need guys. The fact that the only guys who consistently develop play under Tenuta isn't surprising.

You watch us on special teams, and it's like men against boys. The only guy on the field who can make a play is 93. If he doesn't make the tackle, hold onto your balls. Why our coaching staff continues to think we can try to hide scrubs on our cover teams is beyond me. You want to let slapdicks get on the field, put them on your return teams, and trust me they are certainly there for us if you've ever seen how unexplosive and completely threatless we are on the vast majority of our returns. You can't hide guys on the cover teams, but we keep doing it. I guess as long as Tenuta keeps bailing us out and keeps teams off the scoreboard after they start drives from the 45 it's okay.

Again, the two phases of our program that don't have Tenuta's direct input and involvement are coincidentally enough after 5 years, STILL THE WEAKEST.

Maybe Gailey might continue on the right path after he ran off Tommy Robinson and Dave Wilson, two blights on Tech's otherwise long pedigree of distinguished assistant coaches, and get rid of some of the guys who continue to not develop players. I actually thought Gailey might have started to get it when he ran those guys off, late as it was, and I think it was about 2 years after it became obvious those guys gave our staff nothing from my humble observations. The only way he can salvage any of the borderline good will he has tried to earn this year is to fire Nix.

Make no mistake about it, Gailey will never win without Tenuta. I've said it many times, Tenuta is the anti-Gailey. Polar opposites in approach.

Gailey backed into Tenuta and never would have sought him out without Braine's suggestion. I've said it many times, that had Gailey's original DC choice Rick Smith not get fired for the fudged resume, we'd be in about the 3rd year of a new coaching regime because Gailey would have been fired long ago.

You think about how bad Gailey's offenses have been. Rick Smith went on to be the DC at Louisiana Tech after he left Gailey's staff and preceded to have the 118th ranked defense in Division IA (there were only 118 IA teams that year) in the WAC, a conference Louisiana Tech won several years before.

Does that surprise you? Yet people still have faith in Gailey to lead our program, when the only reason we are respectable is because he pulled the proverbial blind squirrel and found a nut in Tenuta.
Gag me with the Humanitarian Bowl trophy.
 
I'm Right There With Him Regarding Nix

Who is the author?

I had a thread nuked on the Hive for suggesting we fire Nix.

I tried to make it a very realistic post and not one of many, "bring in a stud OC from a power by backing up the Brinks truck". Those kinds of suggestions are fruitless.

Having done exactly 5 minutes of research (granted, I am in Dallas, so I know what this guy's offense is like) I found an affordable replacement for Nix who would jump at the opportunity.

Tech new offensive coordinator should be Rusty Burns.

Coaching Experience: Joined the SMU staff on Jan. 8, 2004... Arrived on the Hilltop after two seasons as offensive coordinator at Cincinnati... Led the Bearcats to the 2002 Conference USA championship and to school records for passing yards, total offense and points... UC's offensive attack led C-USA in both total offense (397.5 ypg) and passing offense (260.6 ypg) in 2002... Tutored quarterback Gino Guidugli to All-Conference honors... Also served as quarterbacks coach at UC from 1989-91...

Served as offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach at Wyoming (1999-2001) and worked as offensive coordinator at Springfield College (1978-79), Connecticut (1980-88) and Memphis (1996-98) and as assistant coach at Georgia Tech (1992-94)...

Credited with developing Wyoming's All-Mountain West Conference quarterback Casey Bramlet, who threw for 3,069 yards and ranked 14th in the nation in total offense in 2001... His transformation of the offensive attack led to the Cowboys having the most improved offense in the conference in 2001;

Playing Experience: Quarterback at Springfield College 1974-77; Education: A 1978 graduate of Springfield College with a degree in physical education and a concentration on English... Earned his master's in guidance and psychological services and admissions from Springfield in 1979; Personal: He and his wife, Debra, have two daughters, Kelly and Kirsten.
 
It's what most of us know and believe about Nix. Great post. Gailey owes it to himself and to GT to give it a try it with a real OC.
 
Isn't this what I have been saying for 3 years now?

One day Tenuta is going to leave, Gailey will hire another boob to run the D, and we will be sunk. It still take a couple of years after Tenuta's departure to get Gailey out of here because people will point to X consecutive bowl years/winning season as a reason to give him more chances.

Any college football analyst that knows anything about our team knows what's going on at GT. We as a fan base are so concerned with being patient and "rational" (un-Alabama-like) that we are unwilling to acknowledge the obvious disfunction in front of us.
 
The only thing that I will add is that Gailey is holding Nix back. As bad as Nix is, he'd be better if Gailey wasn't his boss.

Nix lacks the experience to be a Div 1-A coordinator on this level. That's not his fault. Gailey likes it, because he can push him around. What would happen if Gailey tried to push Tenuta around?

Nix lacks experience, but what no one talks about is that Gailey does too. Gailey has never been a head coach at the Division 1-A level before. He may understand NFL offenses, but the college game is very different from the NFL, and he does not understand modern college offense.

I wish that we had a more experienced OC than Nix, but frankly, I feel sorry for him. Gailey has created a dead end for him. No one is going to hire the OC of this offense.
 
There are many valid criticisms here, but overall this is far too harsh, and an overreaction based on our last 2 dismal offensive games.

The big picture is we were #2 in the conference in rushing offense, #3 in total offense, and #5 in scoring offense. Clearly there are a lot of teams in the league that would like to swap places with us.

QB play obviously needs to improve, but it's not clear that Steve Spurrier could have made a consistent QB out of Ball. I have been screaming for moves at QB for some time, and so I understand the frustration, but I'm not sure wholesale changes in the coaching staff are the best answer right now.
 
Did the coach not have the option of playing a different QB?

Did the coach not have the opportunity to recruit his own QBs to choose from?

No QB will ever look good in this offense except for small streaks here and there. We take all the decision making away from the QB at the line of scrimmage and puts it in the hands of the OC before they have even seen the D alignment. If we had Peyton Manning, he would be reduced to the guy who throws the ball after the snap.
 
It still amazes me that some people believe that the only thing wrong with our lowly rated passing game is the talent of the quarterback.
 
This is indeed way too harsh. Yes, there's truth in it for the most part, but it's woefully incomplete in that it neglects the reality of the effects that coaching transition, flunkgate, recruiting restrictions, NCAA sanctions, injuries, and the actual state of the program when O'Leary left have had on the team.

We, quite simply, have been playing with a shortage of manpower on the team for the past 5 years. It shows up, time and time again. We're going to be short on manpower for the next year or two until our recruiting lets us reload. That's dependant both on the improved recruiting we've seen this year AND on the lifting of the NCAA sancitons.
 
GEETEELEE said:
This is indeed way too harsh. Yes, there's truth in it for the most part, but it's woefully incomplete in that it neglects the reality of the effects that coaching transition, flunkgate, recruiting restrictions, NCAA sanctions, injuries, and the actual state of the program when O'Leary left have had on the team.

Damn our p**s poor luck, but why didn't these events affect both our offensive and defensive performance over the past two years?
 
71YellowJacket said:
Damn our p**s poor luck, but why didn't these events affect both our offensive and defensive performance over the past two years?

The original poster said it: the defense has been given the best talent, then the offense and finally special teams. That's not to say the O is devoid of talent, by any means, nor is it to deny any credit to Tenuta, but by and large that's been the situation.

The empahsis on the team has been defense that can keep any game close, and a low risk offense.

It shows.
 
You call it realistic, but I call it as agenda-driven and factually incorrect. Typical Buzzoff (and StingTalk and Hive) material.

We just won our division, almost won the ACCCG, are playing in an east coast bowl, and have just landed the best recruiting class in at least the best decade, and possibly ever. However the naysayers, including the poster of this thread and the majority of this forum, seem to take glory in pointing out the shortcomings of our team if for no other reason than too much of their own self worth is wrapped up in the performance of college athletics -- sad.

I really feel badly for your kids, significant others, and employees/coworkers -- you must truly be a joy to work with/be around with all the pessimism and venom over something which you have absolutely no control over....Mike
 
Well, almost everyone thinks we could have done a better job coaching up the QB. Sure, Ball has his limitations and I am glad his tenure here is over.

But if there is a hint that we may not be developing QB's, I want an OC (like Rusty) known for developing young QB's or I want to bring in a QB coach dedicated to the development of our #'s 1, 2 and 3.
 
goldbybirth said:
Well, almost everyone thinks we could have done a better job coaching up the QB. Sure, Ball has his limitations and I am glad his tenure here is over.

But if there is a hint that we may not be developing QB's, I want an OC (like Rusty) known for developing young QB's or I want to bring in a QB coach dedicated to the development of our #'s 1, 2 and 3.

I agree
 
I agree in general with what the guy said, but I think it was a bit extreme. It is possible we may need to bring in a new QB coach to help our guys with their mechnics, but I think Nix will do fine as OC. Look at our conference ranking in the ACC this year compared to last couple years. We had on of the top overal offenses in the conference this year, period. Could it improve, of course. But in less than one year as OC, we went from like the 10th-11th offense in the ACC to the top 4, and that's with a subpar QB. The offense is going in the right direction, atleast give the guy a full year as OC before you starting calling for his head.
 
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