Piss poor coaching

Whenever Louisville had 4th and short at one point, in the 2nd quarter I think, it was just so clear that they were going to see the stacked line and hit the RB on a bootleg for the 1st. And that's what they did.

Whenever we were in the same situation, you knew we were going to run the ball straight up the gut and either get stuffed or muscle it out by the skin of our teeth (usually the former). Sometimes footbal is as simple as imposing your will. Other times, it's being self-aware enough to know that you can't.
 
Tshirt Man said:
This is the problem. Anybody watching the game knew running up the middle wasn't working. We had some success with quick passes but kept going back to running it up the middle. Throw it till the defense adjust and stops it. Then maybe go back to running.

It's like they draw up the plays on Thursday and call them no matter what has been happening in the game.
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I was wondering if I was an idiot for disagreeing with running up the middle. Didn't know if there was something real football experts could see that I couldn't, as a relatively casual viewer.
 
andrew said:
I was wondering if I was an idiot for disagreeing with running up the middle. Didn't know if there was something real football experts could see that I couldn't, as a relatively casual viewer.
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I think we had several decent runs up the middle. But I think they were generally King running midline. When it was a called run up the middle, we got ööööcanned.
 
andrew said:
I was wondering if I was an idiot for disagreeing with running up the middle. Didn't know if there was something real football experts could see that I couldn't, as a relatively casual viewer.
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I understand wanting to be able to get those yards on the ground, and I'm not an advocate for flat out abandoning the run or being super reactionary, but at a certain point you have to adjust based on the how the defense is playing you and the preponderance of evidence that running the ball up the middle is not working.

Honestly can't remember a 3rd or 4th and 2 or less that we didn't try to get by pounding it forward, despite having very little success. Never even really tried to make Louisville play defense outside of a phone booth in those situations.
 
gtfan088 said:
The floor under him is considerably higher than it was under Collins. There's a baseline level of competence that the team plays with. But the defense is still bad, particularly against the pass, and the questionable coaching decisions are magnified in close games.

I like Faulkner's general system and play design, but neither he nor Key seem to have a good feel for how a game is going. They call the game how they want it called regardless of the results or what the defense is giving up.
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Defense did not lose us this game and is much improved
 
ThomsonJacket said:
And why not use the bigger stronger Pyron?
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So many coaching decisions that did not make sense. Going for it in an all or nothing situation before halftime, but not going for it later when the UofL defense had been on the field for a long drive. Then going for a much longer 4th down the following possession. Not really mixing the play calling up or forcing UofL to defend the perimeter. Etc. etc.
 
gtfan088 said:
Whenever Louisville had 4th and short at one point, in the 2nd quarter I think, it was just so clear that they were going to see the stacked line and hit the RB on a bootleg for the 1st. And that's what they did.

Whenever we were in the same situation, you knew we were going to run the ball straight up the gut and either get stuffed or muscle it out by the skin of our teeth (usually the former). Sometimes footbal is as simple as imposing your will. Other times, it's being self-aware enough to know that you can't.
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This is the best take so far. Stubbornness
 
Tshirt Man said:
This is the problem. Anybody watching the game knew running up the middle wasn't working. We had some success with quick passes but kept going back to running it up the middle. Throw it till the defense adjust and stops it. Then maybe go back to running.

It's like they draw up the plays on Thursday and call them no matter what has been happening in the game.
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You're right. Middle running was mostly non successful . WR screens to both sides were getting 3-6 yards. Go all Mike Leatch and use the short passing game with blockers out front and dink and dunk until you can throw one behind them in the intermediate area.i
 
gtfan088 said:
It didn't, but I stand by my assessment. It's not a good pass defense.
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Line backers are slow. I’m honestly at the point where I think team speed is killing is on defense and not coaching. Our pass rush was better today as evident by the several holding calls our way.
 
goldbybirth said:
You're right. Middle running was mostly non successful . WR screens to both sides were getting 3-6 yards. Go all Mike Leatch and use the short passing game with blockers out front and dink and dunk until you can throw one behind them in the intermediate area.i
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Wonder how much of our issues right now stem from Key's mentality as an OL guy who believes the team has to run the ball efffectively first and foremost. Feels like we want to be this smashmouth running team, and maybe the performance against a fraudulent FSU team gave us a false sense of belief that that's who we can and should be.

Through five games, I just don't believe that that's actually the strength of the offense, but it seems like we're hellbent on proving otherwise even if it decreases our chance of winning the game at hand.
 
BigDanT said:
Line backers are slow. I’m honestly at the point where I think team speed is killing is on defense and not coaching. Our pass rush was better today as evident by the several holding calls our way.
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2nd half defense was actually solid outside of the PI/long TD play. Deep ball defense all game was not bad outside that play, as even the catches they did have came against fairly tight coverage. Coverage against the intermediate routes was painful to watch, with terrible angles and a glaring lack of speed.
 
Taking the delay of game on 4 & 1 from near the goal line and kicking a FG to tie is an ok decision in a vacuum, it’s not the decision I would make but it’s fine…what’s not fine is just letting the clock role down without being in an offensive formation ready to snap the ball, taking the penalty with no deception of a potential 4th down offensive snap that could have drawn a Louisville offsides for a first down. That’s not maximizing your options in the moment and for all the things our coaches do well it’s a clear example of something they could fix to improve their game management. Would Louisville have jumped, probably not, but we will never know and that’s the little things you can do over time as a coach that can swing a game here and there… On to the next, go Jackets.
 
RamblinWreck27 said:
Taking the delay of game on 4 & 1 from near the goal line and kicking a FG to tie is an ok decision in a vacuum, it’s not the decision I would make but it’s fine…what’s not fine is just letting the clock role down without being in an offensive formation ready to snap the ball, taking the penalty with no deception of a potential 4th down offensive snap that could have drawn a Louisville offsides for a first down. That’s not maximizing your options in the moment and for all the things our coaches do well it’s a clear example of something they could fix to improve their game management. Would Louisville have jumped, probably not, but we will never know and that’s the little things you can do over time as a coach that can swing a game here and there… On to the next, go Jackets.
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Yep, line up and see if you can get a free play. If it fails, you’ve lost nothing.
 
RamblinWreck27 said:
Taking the delay of game on 4 & 1 from near the goal line and kicking a FG to tie is an ok decision in a vacuum, it’s not the decision I would make but it’s fine…what’s not fine is just letting the clock role down without being in an offensive formation ready to snap the ball, taking the penalty with no deception of a potential 4th down offensive snap that could have drawn a Louisville offsides for a first down. That’s not maximizing your options in the moment and for all the things our coaches do well it’s a clear example of something they could fix to improve their game management. Would Louisville have jumped, probably not, but we will never know and that’s the little things you can do over time as a coach that can swing a game here and there… On to the next, go Jackets.
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These are the types of things I understood and forgave last year, in Key's first full season as HC.

This season I think he's put together an improved team but the gameday coaching doesn't seem to have improved alongside.
 
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