Pollack's halo removed

You give me a kid like that and I'll put him into sales for my company. He would be making $200k/year+ in no time.

Employers love to hire ex-athletes for B2B sales roles if they are bright and articulate. I've hired ex-Tech football players and it's worked well for me and them. And several didn't graduate from Tech.



Where were you when I was looking for a job last April? ;)
 
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gtyellowjackets said:
Niether you nor anyone else will convince me that not going for the best education is the way to go.

Oh, BTW go "F" yourself...
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consecutive sentences ever typed in the history of mankind. You have made a real compelling argument for the merit of a Georgia Tech "education".:cool:
 
All the best

Dude's got nine mil or the equivalent in his back pocket.
Puhleeze!

Total dumbass if he suits up again.
 
No one EVER said that they hope Pollack never recovered. No one ever said they are glad Pollack got hurt.
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All I ever said was that I believed that Pollack was a history major and that I don't believe he ever finished the degree before he left UGA. I personally think anyone who fails to finish their degree will be disadvantaged somewhat in the workforce today.

Because my oldest daughter graduated from UGA our family knew Pollack and Greene personally, along with their families. Norm and Kelly Pollack raised a good kid. I wish David well as he continues his recovery. I thought at the time it occurred, his NFL career was over. It's really hard for me to see him physically engaging again after that kind of injury. It's always got to be in the back of his mind that it could occur again and I figured that would cause him to be ultra-cautious and backoff from his normal 90mph game pace.

From the info in the attached URL, it looks like he has significant $$$ guarantees regardless of what path he takes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Pollack

Here's Pollacks' web site, which has a few comments about how he'll proceed after the doctors feedback sessions. Looks like he's prepared to hang it up, if necessary.

http://www.davidpollack.com/
 
gtyellowjackets said:
No one will ever convince me differently, for all the obvious reasons...
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gtyellowjackets,

It's unfortunate that people like you speak with such ferocity, but in your heart you know better. Still, you refuse to vocally recognize that success and education can't be measure by achievement from a technical institute or a university.

I work with guys like you. EE and ME grads from GT, Auburn, Texas A&M, and VT and I catch weak opinions like this every-once-in-a-while. It drives a couple of them crazy that a guy like me can do the job they do more efficiently even though I don't have an engineering degree, nor did I have to spend thousands of dollars on my education.

I've told this story once before so bear with me. You see, at 18 years old, I didn't have the self-discipline when it came to education in college and, after 2 years of getting by, I recognized that fact and refused to be a failure, so I joined the military. In my 4 years of service, while being deployed to numerous locations across the country and the world, I enrolled in college and took my studies with me. I took final exams in proctored environments in Germany and Turkey. I studied for finals in the cargo bay of military aircraft on flights across the pond and back and one time, during an exercise, I studied over 4 hours for Physics mid-term in MOPP 4 chemical gear (full charcoal-lined suit, rubber gloves, and gas mask in July in Arkansas). Just before my 4-year enlistment was complete, I graduated with an Aeronautics degree from the inferior Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. My accomplishment isn't exceptional, there's hundreds, probably thousands, of other folks that have done the same.

According to you and the justified high regard you have for a GT education, my education is inferior. I could have chosen to have more self-discipline and dedicate myself to education and attempted to earn a degree from GT, but I didn't. Never mind I didn't have the SAT scores to get into GT, or earn an academic scholarship, or have a parent that could pay my way, or have the desire to attend GT. Nope, my failing, dumb ass had to settle for the path I've taken. And I love every minute when I work with pompous asshats who assume my ignorance based on my "insufficient" education.

I'm sure you've got a group of buddies that agree with you, but apparently you're not getting that support here. Whatever the case, I appreciate your education and that you're proud of your accomplishments.

I can't believe I participated in this thread. I'll probably end deleting this post before too long.
 
Never cared for him or greene but would never wish anything like that on someone
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GaJake15 said:
gtyellowjackets,

It's unfortunate that people like you speak with such ferocity, but in your heart you know better. Still, you refuse to vocally recognize that success and education can't be measure by achievement from a technical institute or a university.

I work with guys like you. EE and ME grads from GT, Auburn, Texas A&M, and VT and I catch weak opinions like this every-once-in-a-while. It drives a couple of them crazy that a guy like me can do the job they do more efficiently even though I don't have an engineering degree, nor did I have to spend thousands of dollars on my education.

I've told this story once before so bear with me. You see, at 18 years old, I didn't have the self-discipline when it came to education in college and, after 2 years of getting by, I recognized that fact and refused to be a failure, so I joined the military. In my 4 years of service, while being deployed to numerous locations across the country and the world, I enrolled in college and took my studies with me. I took final exams in proctored environments in Germany and Turkey. I studied for finals in the cargo bay of military aircraft on flights across the pond and back and one time, during an exercise, I studied over 4 hours for Physics mid-term in MOPP 4 chemical gear (full charcoal-lined suit, rubber gloves, and gas mask in July in Arkansas). Just before my 4-year enlistment was complete, I graduated with an Aeronautics degree from the inferior Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. My accomplishment isn't exceptional, there's hundreds, probably thousands, of other folks that have done the same.

According to you and the justified high regard you have for a GT education, my education is inferior. I could have chosen to have more self-discipline and dedicate myself to education and attempted to earn a degree from GT, but I didn't. Never mind I didn't have the SAT scores to get into GT, or earn an academic scholarship, or have a parent that could pay my way, or have the desire to attend GT. Nope, my failing, dumb ass had to settle for the path I've taken. And I love every minute when I work with pompous asshats who assume my ignorance based on my "insufficient" education.

I'm sure you've got a group of buddies that agree with you, but apparently you're not getting that support here. Whatever the case, I appreciate your education and that you're proud of your accomplishments.

I can't believe I participated in this thread. I'll probably end deleting this post before too long.
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good read, GaJake... you should be proud of your service for our country and for your education! Great job! That is something no one can ever take from you....especially some random folks here on a message board.
 
Great post, Gajake. I hope the many ideologues on the post get a chance to read it.
 
CitySting said:
Great post, Gajake. I hope the many ideologues on the post get a chance to read it.
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I think you're the guy who is supposed to be the "other" me according to one poster here.

You should feel honored. ;)
 
Geetee said:
That is something no one can ever take from you....especially some random folks here on a message board.
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Thanks, but that's not what I'm after with my post. I just want this guy to see that education is just equipment and where you got it from just makes the equipment more fancy. Not necessarily more efficient.

GT is a damn good Institute, but to say a Gardner Webb graduate can't be just as successful in life as an educator is unfair.
 
This is my last post on this thread.

I was a Mgmt major at Tech.

I was a scholarship SA at Tech.

I have seen MANY of my friends who had wonderful opportunities to take a SA scholarship at top universities only to make the mistake and end up at a state school as a Parks & Rec major. They blew an opportunity of a lifetime that they had at their finger tips. Now they struggle to support themselves and their families to the level of their expectations.

An example that hits close to home: a former GT men's tennis coach. Out of high school he was offered a full ride to Harvard and Clemson. He chose Clemson. He had a great college career and won tennis' version of the Heismans trophy. He turned pro and was tore a hamstring in the second year of his pro career. Needless to say his pro career was over.

He beaome a coach at Tech. Lasts about 10 years and has a dicey tenure. He gets canned. He goes to get a job outside of tennis as a job placement recruiter for a while. Now he works a mediocre job as a teaching coach for the USTA.

It goes without saying that his opportinities would have been more vast as a Havard graduate and probably his quality of life today.

I know a dozen guys like him with similar stories.

College athletics is a 4 year venture. The gift of athletics should be used, IMO, to get the best education possible. I don't think anyone would dispute that the better the education (for the vast majority) the better the opportunities. Almost anyone who chooses a college as a stepping stone to the pros makes a mistake.

I am glad Pollack has a big signing bonus and hope he does well outside of sports (and has a full physical recovery).

But I stand by my statement that a prospective college SA should go for the best education possible when choosing a college because he or she doesn't know what the future holds athletically.

Anyone who reads my posts as glad Pollack got hurt or that I hope he suffers or whatever (because he went to Georgia) has his blinders on...
 
gtyellowjackets said:
But I stand by my statement that a prospective college SA should go for the best education possible when choosing a college
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absolutely.. and to think that no other schools have good degrees is the point GaJake was making. Some SAs want different things from life, too, and that needs to be accounted for. Physicist, engineer? Go to GT Lawyer, Vet, Pharm? Go to UGA
Work in NY? go to a school that is more respected in that part of the country, etc.. So many factors impact a student's decision. Look at our own CJ, he may bolt for the NFL... if he does, he'll not have a degree...but his job will be in the NFL making a gazillion dollars. We should all be so lucky to have that career track.

Proud of GaJake making the best of the situation he had and obviously doing very well with it. Go Embry-Riddle! :)
 
I guess the other thing is that to think that a choice made at 18 years-old is the biggest opportunity of a lifetime is depressing. Deciding whether or not to kill someone or do drugs or drive drunk, yeah, but college choice, hardly. People that think their degree isn't good enough and has lead to their "failure", aren't trying hard enough to succeed. Or people are hanging success on how much money they make rather than happiness and non-material quality of life.

You are as successful as you want to be.
 
Geetee said:
Bill Gates didn't even get a degree. So.....
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yeah, but he was going to Harvard before he dropped out and Harvard football teams suck, so Billy boy is a bigtime LOOSER!
 
GEETEELEE said:
yeah, but he was going to Harvard before he dropped out and Harvard football teams suck, so Billy boy is a bigtime LOOSER!
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I'll bet he's a "loser", too. Yep, those degrees really matter! ;)
 
Geetee said:
I'll bet he's a "loser", too. Yep, those degrees really matter! ;)
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Point of clarification. "Looser" is standard Hive spelling for loser because so many dawggies were speling it that way back in the day when there were only "Five".
 
gtyellowjackets said:
But I stand by my statement that a prospective college SA should go for the best education possible when choosing a college because he or she doesn't know what the future holds athletically.
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Pollack, an exception among their athletes for sure, may have been a Business major at UGA. The Terry school is very highly regarded and in areas like Risk Mgt. and Insurance is ranked much than GT's Management school. You could make the argument that he did choose an education at least as qualified and perhaps a better one than if he had chosen GT.
 
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