Pollack's halo removed

GaJake15,

I seriously considered aeronautical engineering at Embry-Riddle before I attended Tech for mechanical engineering. I would never ever think to look down at somebody who went to Embry-Riddle, especially with their 85-15 "ratio."

Now, I don't about the other posts here, but mine dealt specificially with history and other liberal arts majors. I actually used somebody who majored in history at tech for my example. The career prospects are low for liberal arts majors from any school, Tech, UGA, wherever.

Now, of course liberal arts majors aren't going to be begging on the streets for life. For all I know, my old roommate has found a lucrative sales job out there making much more than me with his commissions. But I do know that he was still looking for employment a year after graduation and that he would have had a job lined up if he stayed with Industrial Engineering.

As for Pollack, I wish him the best with his recovery. As a former DE/OT in high school, I liked the way he played. He probably hasn't wasted all that signing bonus just yet either; so I'm sure he's fine financially.

Still, his prospects outside the NFL would have been better with a degree in risk management or insurance or, yes, a management degree from Tech than a history degree. He's lucky that this injury did not happen to him his senior year at UGA and that he has his guaranteed money now.
 
gtyellowjackets said:
I was a Mgmt major at Tech.

I was a scholarship SA at Tech.

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There are plenty of other Tech scholarship athletes with a Management degree that post on this site. You do understand that, right?

What you obviously don't understand, or are just bitter about is the fact that there is a difference between minor sports and MAJOR sports stars.

They are not better people, they are just more recognizable, and get some breaks that others don't.
David Pollock has already made his name in Georgia.
Even if he couldn't spell Kat, he will have tremendous opportunities here if he needs one.

Be proud of your Tech athletic career, but you need to stop being bitter that tennis is not as big as football. Apples to Oranges.
 
But I do know that he was still looking for employment a year after graduation and that he would have had a job lined up if he stayed with Industrial Engineering.
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Most of the GT engineering grads that I have personally known have had good jobs lined up by the time they graduate. A number of these had already secured a job based on the good impressions they made during their Coop semesters with private industry. They didn't have to spend voluminous amounts of time on the Internet convincing everyone that their degree was really credible.

In the final analysis, it's not terribly important what the employee thinks of his/her credentials but what the employer thinks of the individual and the degrees earned. Most employers that are really knowledgeable in the engineering fields already know the value of a Tech degree and what that individual has gone through to earn that degree.
 
GaJake15 said:
gtyellowjackets,

It's unfortunate that people like you speak with such ferocity, but in your heart you know better. Still, you refuse to vocally recognize that success and education can't be measure by achievement from a technical institute or a university.

I work with guys like you. EE and ME grads from GT, Auburn, Texas A&M, and VT and I catch weak opinions like this every-once-in-a-while. It drives a couple of them crazy that a guy like me can do the job they do more efficiently even though I don't have an engineering degree, nor did I have to spend thousands of dollars on my education.

I've told this story once before so bear with me. You see, at 18 years old, I didn't have the self-discipline when it came to education in college and, after 2 years of getting by, I recognized that fact and refused to be a failure, so I joined the military. In my 4 years of service, while being deployed to numerous locations across the country and the world, I enrolled in college and took my studies with me. I took final exams in proctored environments in Germany and Turkey. I studied for finals in the cargo bay of military aircraft on flights across the pond and back and one time, during an exercise, I studied over 4 hours for Physics mid-term in MOPP 4 chemical gear (full charcoal-lined suit, rubber gloves, and gas mask in July in Arkansas). Just before my 4-year enlistment was complete, I graduated with an Aeronautics degree from the inferior Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. My accomplishment isn't exceptional, there's hundreds, probably thousands, of other folks that have done the same.

According to you and the justified high regard you have for a GT education, my education is inferior. I could have chosen to have more self-discipline and dedicate myself to education and attempted to earn a degree from GT, but I didn't. Never mind I didn't have the SAT scores to get into GT, or earn an academic scholarship, or have a parent that could pay my way, or have the desire to attend GT. Nope, my failing, dumb ass had to settle for the path I've taken. And I love every minute when I work with pompous asshats who assume my ignorance based on my "insufficient" education.

I'm sure you've got a group of buddies that agree with you, but apparently you're not getting that support here. Whatever the case, I appreciate your education and that you're proud of your accomplishments.

I can't believe I participated in this thread. I'll probably end deleting this post before too long.
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so why the hell are you a dawg fan?
 
ramblinwise1 said:
so why the hell are you a dawg fan?
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Yeah, I was under the impression that GaJake went to UGAy. That is a good question, why in the hell are you a ball licker Dawg fan?
 
TechGator1066 said:
Yeah, I was under the impression that GaJake went to UGAy. That is a good question, why in the hell are you a ball licker Dawg fan?
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Ha, Ha. You butt nugget. Everytime you say "ball licker", which is every 1 out of every 4 of your posts, I laugh at how unoriginal it is. That's as bad as someone calling a GT fan a "techie" or a "nerd".

I was raised a UGA fan. Simple as that. Are we really going to debate the merits of a person being a fan of college team even though they are not a member of that school's alumni? I also didn't play for the Falcons, Hawks, or Braves either. Am I not allowed to pull for them either?

The Embry-Riddle I attended was a satellite campus. Not the main campus in Daytona or the one Arizona. I know this is tough for some folks to grasp, but there are plenty of GT fans that didn't attend college period. Believe it or not, NCAA athletics is important to folks down here regardless of their education location and level.

I guess now that folks know that I'm not alumnus of UGA, I'm considered a "sidewalk" UGA fan. Whatever floats your boat.

Ball licker. That's just a funny picture in my mind.
 
Just a small correction....

The Terry school is very highly regarded and in areas like Risk Mgt. and Insurance is ranked much than GT's Management school. You could make the argument that he did choose an education at least as qualified and perhaps a better one than if he had chosen GT.
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Terry is not ranked much higher than the GT College of Management. Terry is ranked 29th and GTCoM is ranked 35th. Additionally, Tech has been closing the gap. Tech isn't known for it's management program, while the Terry College is one of uga's premiere programs. Apparently Tech is "hiding" athletes in the 35th best business program in the nation while the shining stars of the uga student body can only rank 6 places better.

Tech leads Terry in graduate rankings for the MBA programs. The GT MBA program is ranked 34th while Terry comes in at 45th.
 
I would like to see the difference between average starting salaries between UGA's Terry School of business graduates, and GT's Ivan Alan School of MGT.

I bet it's night and day.
 
At least now we know why GaJake comes over here with such a giant chip on his shoulder all the time - wanted to be an engineer but couldn't get into Tech.
 
I bet it's night and day.
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I bet it's +/- 15%. *I*'d like to see the number of CEOs produced by each school, by ratio of enrollment. I bet *that* is a much bigger disparity.
 
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savbandjacket said:
Terry is not ranked much higher than the GT College of Management. Terry is ranked 29th and GTCoM is ranked 35th. Additionally, Tech has been closing the gap. Tech isn't known for it's management program, while the Terry College is one of uga's premiere programs. Apparently Tech is "hiding" athletes in the 35th best business program in the nation while the shining stars of the uga student body can only rank 6 places better.

Tech leads Terry in graduate rankings for the MBA programs. The GT MBA program is ranked 34th while Terry comes in at 45th.
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First of all, 29 is better than 35 so what is your argument with my post. Secondly, I did not say or even infer that Tech was hiding athletes like the football factories do. Tech is improving and Tech Managemnet grads are very highly regarded and sought after.

Let's face it, if a UGA athlete majors in Business he is considered a "scholar" athlete. Whereas our most popular major with athletes is our equivalent business school. When they quit using Hargrave and drop the joke majors like Leisure Studies or Sports Studies they can discuss academics. But not until then. But that doesn't mean that every athlete at UGA is an idiot and doesn't get a good education. Some in business do as well as I remember the Kessler brothers who were pre-med. Rare, but it happens.
 
BarrelORum said:
I would like to see the difference between average starting salaries between UGA's Terry School of business graduates, and GT's Ivan Alan School of MGT.

I bet it's night and day.
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I don't know about averages. My oldest son is a Management graduate this month with a double concentration in Finance and Accounting. He had good grades and an internship in investment management. He had several offers and I am impressed with what his starting salary will be.
 
mm42 said:
At least now we know why GaJake comes over here with such a giant chip on his shoulder all the time - wanted to be an engineer but couldn't get into Tech.
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Ok, now everyone's trying to get their shots in. It's the usual bunch.

I have no problems saying this; not only could I not get into GT (never even seen an application), but I couldn't get into UGA either (tried, denied). Classic underachiever, I was with my 2.7 JUCO GPA at 18 years old. For me it was either quit college, go to west georgia, or join the service.

What's funny is that I never wanted or had any desire to be an "engineer", but my military training and degree landed me a job as one. Easy money. I can't believe I get paid what I do for the job I do indoors. It's 550% more than I was paid 5 years ago working 16 hour shifts with no days off 3 months at a time. :laugher:
 
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Jake, I give you credit for at least coming on here and being honest about who you are and where you've been. Not a lot of people behind internet keyboards that are willing to put that out there. You're one of the few UGA fans I can tolerate and you seem to apply what many on this board cannot, which is common sense.

This thread really lacks all sense in general and many people responding in it are closer to stupidity than they appear in the mirror.
 
FloridaJacket

I have a Political Science degree from SMU.

I agree that I would have been better of career-wise earlier if I had gotten a business degree or engineering degree.

I pushed back hard when my parents said they were picking all of my courses (finance) and had my degree path decided for me.

In retrospect, they were trying to provide me with the best opportunity for success, but all I wanted to do was find my own path.

I can honestly say that my PoliSci degree hasn't hurt me in the long run since I work in management for a software company, but it certainly took longer to get to where I wanted to be.
 
My first engineering job (intern, in high school) was working for a VP of a local Marietta civil consulting company, and his degree was from UGA.

It is possible to find smart people that went to UGA, and those smart people can indeed succeed in the world, but I firmly believe that their UGA degree really didn't help them much.
 
It is possible to find smart people that went to UGA, and those smart people can indeed succeed in the world, but I firmly believe that their UGA degree really didn't help them much.
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My oldest daughter graduated from UGA and couldn't find a job. She spent an extra couple of years picking up a nursing degree in order to become gainfully employed.

My youngest is currently a senior at Tech and she has had numerous intership offers and one actual job offer before she has even graduated.

Nuf said!! ;)
 
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7-6Jackets62 said:
I'll bet none of you know how to drive a train! That takes a real engineer!!!
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Wow congrats on your 5th post since 2001!!! So if I am doing my arithimetic correctly, you post once a year wow!
No hard feelings man I'm trying to have fun.
 
BarrelORum said:
Jake, I give you credit for at least coming on here and being honest about who you are and where you've been. Not a lot of people behind internet keyboards that are willing to put that out there...
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Cripes, I've already admitted I'm from Alabama and my family are Auburn fans! Granted, not as bad as being too dumb to get into UGAg, but it's all I've got!
 
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