Poster on Hive says it's RN

rpwreck said:
Just not announced yet. Please somebody debunk that rumor.
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1st off, I hope it is not a rumor!

But, there has been an assasination movement from the koolaide goodie two shoe type fans that post so often over there. Trying to discredit RN, before he gets out of the gate.
 
1gtfan said:
there has been an assasination movement from the koolaide goodie two shoe type fans that post so often over there. Trying to discredit RN, before he gets out of the gate.
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You don't have to discredit him....he did it to himself at two schools over a 10 year period.
 
I wonder if this is true. If you try to sort though the BS sources and scuttlebutt I am starting to think there is some fire to the RN smoke.

I will be the first to say I KNOW NOTHING 1st hand about RN. I ripped someone earlier for relying on hearsay to rip CG so I am not going to do the same ESPECIALLY if he is hired as GT's next coach.

I keep thinking about the "one legged" monkey post. Where someone stated that this was ok candidate if they can win certain games.

I do believe that is the mentality currently at GT. They may be willing to look past (the past) to someone they believe will win.

If he is hired I will support him and keep an open mind. I will definitely be surprised but it will not be the 1st or last time.
 
Who here doesn't / hasn't participate(d) in a college basketball pool during March ?
 
there has been an assasination movement from the koolaide goodie two shoe type fans that post so often over there. Trying to discredit RN, before he gets out of the gate.
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So strange you would post that about the Hive, which did not allow assassination attempts against Gailey and led directly to the creation of Stingtalk and BO.

RN's record is a public matter and deserves to be debated. Some don't get his record correct and others correct them. Be that as it may, RN has been, in many people eyes, percieved to be involved in nefarious activities.

I am positive, that if ANYTHING doubtful is found, he won't be hired.

That said, I hope it isn't him. Why? He has an uneven W/L record, no experience at an academic based institution, and no established HS contacts in Georgia. That combined with his reputation, deserved or not, makes him undesirable in my wise eyes.

Why would the school make a hire and not announce it?
 
nedleeds said:
Who here doesn't / hasn't participate(d) in a college basketball pool during March ?
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That is nothing...that was the most minor thing he did.

The 51 documented NCAA infractions at Colorado is a good start.
His problems with the NCAA are not rumors...they were fact.
 
nedleeds said:
Who here doesn't / hasn't participate(d) in a college basketball pool during March ?
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There is a slight difference here, just in that high profile people need to recognize that fact and act appropriately.
 
Hivered, do you happen to know if there is any way to find out exactly what those 51 NCAA violations were? That number really jumps out at me and I think that it could mean a few different things... perhaps most obviously it could mean that he's crooked (and none too good at it either..) to get caught red-handed doing 51 different ethically-challenged things. It could also mean that he did one thing 51 times (ie some issue with recruiting procedure) or some other number of things repeatedly. If that is the case, then it's possible that he could have just made a bunch of calls to recruits during a dead period or something... To make a long story short, I think that number of violations is being thrown around without what the violations were in order to sensationalize his erstwhile lawless persona. Besides, if these were major and atypical violations that he committed at Colorado, then why was the punishment that Colorado received so much less than what we received for what essentially amounted to a silly oversight?

I've heard a lot of different things about Neuheisel, but I don't know enough about the details and circumstances to judge him. He has a clean slate according to the NCAA (after the tourney pool fiasco and those unnamed 51 violations), and that speaks just as much to me as the hearsay that I've read in sports op-ed pieces.
 
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gtGreg768b said:
Hivered, do you happen to know if there is any way to find out exactly what those 51 NCAA violations were? That number really jumps out at me and I think that it could mean a few different things... perhaps most obviously it could mean that he's crooked (and none too good at it either..) to get caught red-handed doing 51 different ethically-challenged things.
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Here is the official NCAA news release at Colorado:

http://www.ncaa.org/releases/infractions/2002100802in.htm

Here is the NCAA news reelase for the infractions at Washington.

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/portal/lega...om/2004/october/20041020_washington_infr.html
 
1gtfan said:
1st off, I hope it is not a rumor!

But, there has been an assasination movement from the koolaide goodie two shoe type fans that post so often over there. Trying to discredit RN, before he gets out of the gate.
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GT fan- Nail hit on head. Chan gave the GT faithful everything they could want except wins against UGA and a BCS game periodically. Now when it looks like we can hire someone that can achieve these goals (without a $2 million/ year salary or better), everyone is up in arms!
 
Gotta love this quote from the infractions comitee:

"this was a serious case in which a football coaching staff, led by the former head football coach, in a calculated attempt to gain a recruiting advantage, pushed beyond the permissible bounds of legislation, resulting in a pattern of recruiting violations."

And another regarding the nickel and diming nature of the violations:

The report noted that the pattern of violations caused the case to rise to the "major" level. A significant number of the findings involved contact with prospects, or "bumping," during non-contact periods in the Spring when only evaluation is permitted. "When viewed separately," the committee's report said, "each of these contacts might be considered secondary; however, taken cumulatively, they reach the level of a major violation."
 
GTYellowJacket12 said:
Gotta love this quote from the infractions comitee:

"this was a serious case in which a football coaching staff, led by the former head football coach, in a calculated attempt to gain a recruiting advantage, pushed beyond the permissible bounds of legislation, resulting in a pattern of recruiting violations."

And another regarding the nickel and diming nature of the violations:

The report noted that the pattern of violations caused the case to rise to the "major" level. A significant number of the findings involved contact with prospects, or "bumping," during non-contact periods in the Spring when only evaluation is permitted. "When viewed separately," the committee's report said, "each of these contacts might be considered secondary; however, taken cumulatively, they reach the level of a major violation."
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He is an NCAA lightning rod...I bet he even wears an electronic monitoring ankle bracelet!
 
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