Question for 56Jacket regarding the new hire

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Nate,

Curious if you speak to a fair amount of teammates from your days at GT. What is their take on who the best hire would be. I had classes with you at Tech and we occassionaly talked football, though I doubt you would remember me. (Whatever happened to crazy ass Chris Myers anyway? He was always good for a laugh during class.)

Back to the topic. I think you bring good insight to this board. I still remember your posts on the Hive (I think or maybe here) right after the 51-7 debacle in 2002 in Athens. It would be interesting to see what others from the O'Leary era think about the new coach some 10 years or so removed. I think highly of that era (my time at GT) and the many players that played for George.

I think you are in favor of Will Muschamp. From what I know, I do believe he can bring the attitude on the field up to the level we all want to see. Are there any candidates you definitely do NOT want to see.
 
Most of the guys I know like Randy Edsall but we have a biased opinion because we played for him. That doesnt always mean people will like a coach though. What class did we take together?

Myers is in bama and just had his first kid.

I am lukewarm on Muschamp...in the end, we may all get suprised???
 
56Jacket said:
Most of the guys I know like Randy Edsall but we have a biased opinion because we played for him. That doesnt always mean people will like a coach though. What class did we take together?

Myers is in bama and just had his first kid.

I am lukewarm on Muschamp...in the end, we may all get suprised???
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And THAT is the key...
Making the mistake of hiring Muschamp would be a huge mistake by Drad and would divide us all...
I appreciate you letting Drad know this along with John and the rest of your fellow lettermen. We definetly don't need a dog as our coach.
 
56Jacket said:
Most of the guys I know like Randy Edsall but we have a biased opinion because we played for him. That doesnt always mean people will like a coach though. What class did we take together?

Myers is in bama and just had his first kid.

I am lukewarm on Muschamp...in the end, we may all get suprised???
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Edsall was only here the one year. Can you give us a little more insight to Edsall as a coach? He never came across as incredibly firey in interviews, but I am sure had an intense side. What I have seen, I like, but he just wasn't here enough to know.

Congrats to Chris on the birth of their first child.
 
1gtfan said:
Making the mistake of hiring Muschamp would be a huge mistake by Drad and would divide us all...
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...until he won in Athens next Thanksgiving as a tuneup to our first ACCCG victory and BCS bowl.

I'm not saying that would happen. Only that's about as long as the division would last, if it did.
 
True Clapper, but being from UGA gives him a much shorter leash (pun intended) than any other candidate. I'm not saying I agree with it, only that I think that is the reality of the situation. He wouldn't get the same pad those first few years as another coach might.
 
Ramblin Buzz said:
Edsall was only here the one year. Can you give us a little more insight to Edsall as a coach? He never came across as incredibly firey in interviews, but I am sure had an intense side. What I have seen, I like, but he just wasn't here enough to know.

Congrats to Chris on the birth of their first child.
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Edsall will yell and scream when you need it and he will pull you aside and talk to you one-on-one when you need it. He did both to me and was responsible for me starting every game my senior year 1998. if he hadnt have been there, I probably would have never been a starter but he gave me the chance. he actually recruited me in high school when he was at BC with coughlin and was a good guy then.

i dont see where there is any weakness in hiring him
 
56Jacket said:
Edsall will yell and scream when you need it and he will pull you aside and talk to you one-on-one when you need it. He did both to me and was responsible for me starting every game my senior year 1998. if he hadnt have been there, I probably would have never been a starter but he gave me the chance. he actually recruited me in high school when he was at BC with coughlin and was a good guy then.

i dont see where there is any weakness in hiring him
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Thanks Nate!! I think Randy is gaining some momentum. I think he would be an excellent choice!!
 
1gtfan said:
And THAT is the key...
Making the mistake of hiring Muschamp would be a huge mistake by Drad and would divide us all...
I appreciate you letting Drad know this along with John and the rest of your fellow lettermen. We definetly don't need a dog as our coach.
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Ok, lets state it again: If you believe this, then you are an idiot of the ultimate degree. A rookie of the fanbase if you will.

If in DRAD's opinion Muschamp is the BEST hire we could make to turn GT into the program we want it to be, and we don't hire him because of something that has NOTHING TO DO with his coaching ability, then we're all f--king morons.

You have to be pretty damn shallow to not want Muschamp based on where he played college ball. Dooley came from Auburn, you think the Dawgs care in hindsight?
 
BarrelORum said:
Ok, lets state it again: If you believe this, then you are an idiot of the ultimate degree. A rookie of the fanbase if you will.

If in DRAD's opinion Muschamp is the BEST hire we could make to turn GT into the program we want it to be, and we don't hire him because of something that has NOTHING TO DO with his coaching ability, then we're all f--king morons.

You have to be pretty damn shallow to not want Muschamp based on where he played college ball. Dooley came from Auburn, you think the Dawgs care in hindsight?
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BoR, Understand your comments and respect your opinion. I for one wouldn't like the hire but I will support him and not hold any ill feelings for him. Or let me say he's just not my #1 on my short list, maybe #2
 
Ramblin Buzz said:
Thanks Nate!! I think Randy is gaining some momentum. I think he would be an excellent choice!!
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I am just not folllowing the rational here. Edsall is 46-47 in nine seasons at Connecticut. We just fired a coach with a better record. What am I missing?
 
jacket time said:
I am just not folllowing the rational here. Edsall is 46-47 in nine seasons at Connecticut. We just fired a coach with a better record. What am I missing?
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They weren't even D1-A 7 years ago. There are teams out there that have been D1-A decades longer than UConn with better resources and recruiting advantages that can't match his record over the last 3-4 seasons.
 
jacket time said:
I am just not folllowing the rational here. Edsall is 46-47 in nine seasons at Connecticut. We just fired a coach with a better record. What am I missing?
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The talent he can bring in at GT is MUCH better than those that would want to attend UConn for football.

It's not much different that Curry leaving GT with a losing record to go coach at Bama. He did well enough with GT's talent (at the time), rebuilding it from the ashes, that Bama could see his potential and he did win at Bama.

I would not base my decision on just wins and losses at other places. Bobby Ross' record at Maryland (and GT for that matter) were not overly impressive. Ross did have 3 ACC titles at UM, but winning percentage was not .800+.
 
Not so sure, Ramblin. I would think the academic restricitions at GT would be much greater than they are at U Conn.
 
JT,

The difference=
UConn was (if I'm not mistaken)transitioning from a D-II to a D-I school and schedule.

We have been transitioning from a pretty darn good team (ie; Beating uga, playing bowls on Jan. 1, etc. ) to a pretty darn medicore team and not able to beat the mutts!!!
 
jacket time said:
Not so sure, Ramblin. I would think the academic restricitions at GT would be much greater than they are at U Conn.
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The differential in the number of legitimate D1-A prospects between Georgia (and the SE) and Connecticut (and the NE) far outweighs the any academic disadvantage between the schools, IMO.

I'm not even sure the Edsall is my preferred candidate (I haven't yet decided) but I can see why he's an interesting candidate - maybe even the best of all the names out there.
 
What is guaranteed is that this process has been interesting, and probably will continue to be. I'm trying to sort out how I feel about possible candidates based on an "excitement" factor. Bear with me:

Candidates could be roughly sorted into three subsets:

1) those with prior ties to DRad
2) those with prior ties to GT
3) those on the "fast track", or those that are often mentioned for other jobs, but don't necessarily have previous ties to DRad or GT (but they could)

These subsets aren't theoretically mutually exclusive.

Edsall is in subset #2 and (as far as I can tell) not in #1. Muschamp is in #1 and #3. Hatcher is in #3. We can go down the list.

My reason for thinking about this is to help myself understand why some coaches generate more excitement than others (my own excitement). I think what I have come to understand is that someone only in subset #2 is not going to do it for me. Part of why I am excited about this process is that 1) DRad is making a change, and 2) we will wipe Braine's stamp from the program.

By going with someone in subset #2 (only - not in subset 1 or 3) how are we doing anything different from what Braine could do?

I'm certainly not saying this is the right way to think about it, or that Edsall isn't the best candidate. I'm excited about a change first and foremost. I just think that my excitement about the change will be tempered some if we choose someone in subset #2 only. I'm not claiming this is rational logic.

But is Edsall being mentioned b/c he has previous ties? If not, then why aren't other schools targeting him?

Somebody help me out.
 
BarrelORum said:
Ok, lets state it again: If you believe this, then you are an idiot of the ultimate degree. A rookie of the fanbase if you will.

If in DRAD's opinion Muschamp is the BEST hire we could make to turn GT into the program we want it to be, and we don't hire him because of something that has NOTHING TO DO with his coaching ability, then we're all f--king morons.

You have to be pretty damn shallow to not want Muschamp based on where he played college ball. Dooley came from Auburn, you think the Dawgs care in hindsight?
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Does that mean that you would hire O-Leary back? Resume notwithstanding?
 
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