Question for 56Jacket regarding the new hire

I say we get Clough and DRad to tell our richest money guys we need 3.5 to 4 million for head coach and high salaries for coordinators, then get Rich Rodriguez after he wins national title at WVU. He teaches Nesbitt and Dwyer the spread for next three years. He gets to live in Atlanta instead of West Virginia.
 
i endorse Rich Rodriguez for Head Coach

wont happen, he is loyal to WVa
 
BarrelORum said:
Ok, lets state it again: If you believe this, then you are an idiot of the ultimate degree. A rookie of the fanbase if you will.

If in DRAD's opinion Muschamp is the BEST hire we could make to turn GT into the program we want it to be, and we don't hire him because of something that has NOTHING TO DO with his coaching ability, then we're all f--king morons.

You have to be pretty damn shallow to not want Muschamp based on where he played college ball. Dooley came from Auburn, you think the Dawgs care in hindsight?
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First off, are all the Gt fans idiots because we don't want an ex-dog being the HEAD coach here? I think not...Or there will be a lot of idiot Gt fans out there..From talking to others, I will this am. be in a gym with other fellow Gt people that coach basketball like me, that have voiced the same opinion. I know there a lot more like us, that are against it, or at the very least have doubts or reservations about it, especially the old alumni and big money doners (The ajc alluded to this fact also) I dont think in the end Drad will risk the divided fanbase!

I understand where your argument is (And I've heard a few other's throw that up on here and on the hive) About Dooley being an Auburn Grad..Well, you no what, Auburn was not Uga's ARCH rival..Nor was UT our Arch rival either when we hired Bobby Dodd...That makes a big difference in the mind's of any fan base here in the south or even up north in Big 10 country. Do you think Uga would hire an ex-Gt player like Godsey to be their next head coach, never in a million years. In fact, I've asked the question and so far no one has been able to answer, (Has ANY school here in the South ever hired as Head Football coach an ex-player from their ARCH rival? Not just a rival school but, their ARCH rival . Big difference..We would be the first....
Would Alabama ever hire an ex-Auburn player as head coach? Not in a million years maybe 2 million years :laugher:

Would S.C. ever hire an ex-Clemson player as head football coach..Never would happen.

Would Michigan ever hire an ex-Ohio State? There would be a riot..

Now I have heard some here put out that a Tennis, Volleyball or some other minor sport getting an arch rival as head coach, but come on, it is not the no.1 sport or near the money maker at our school, like Football is. So that argument, is not worth mentioning.

I hear we wont have to worry about Mushamp getting hired as the older big money people will stop it, I believe Drad even interviewing him helps Muschamp as to getting consideration for other head jobs. I think this is part of it and the fact of them being buddies.

Lastly, I will point out that out of all the apparent candidates Muschamp is not in the top 3 as far as qualifications I.M.H.O. The u-tube stuff on him sure get's some here excited. He doesn't have any head coaching experience and thus, Edsall , Hatcher and Nieuheisel are far more qualified.

I know some get emotional here and want to push a certain guy but I think most will agree, this is a good job and the interest from around the country is nice to see, so with the apparantley huge pool of candidates to choose from, no one can reasonably say Muschamp is the most qualified, a favorite of a few and a friend evidently vlose friend of Drad BUT, not the most qualified for the job.

So, I guess im an idiot. :bowdown:
 
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refrigeratormover said:
In my opinion he is nothing like Bill. He's more intense than Bill was and more of a disciplinarian.
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Interesting. I guess my impression of BC was that he was pretty strict; but I'm probably basing that too strongly on his benching of Dewberry.
 
Ramblin Buzz said:
Nate,

Curious if you speak to a fair amount of teammates from your days at GT. What is their take on who the best hire would be. I had classes with you at Tech and we occassionaly talked football, though I doubt you would remember me. (Whatever happened to crazy ass Chris Myers anyway? He was always good for a laugh during class.)

Back to the topic. I think you bring good insight to this board. I still remember your posts on the Hive (I think or maybe here) right after the 51-7 debacle in 2002 in Athens. It would be interesting to see what others from the O'Leary era think about the new coach some 10 years or so removed. I think highly of that era (my time at GT) and the many players that played for George.

I think you are in favor of Will Muschamp. From what I know, I do believe he can bring the attitude on the field up to the level we all want to see. Are there any candidates you definitely do NOT want to see.
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I heard Ryan Stewart on 2 Live Stews yesterday saying he does not want a defensive coach as a hire but a Proven and exciting offensive coach as head coach. I know he is against the ex-dog as coach.
 
1gtfan: To answer your ? Yep....

1gtfan said:
Would Alabama ever hire an ex-Auburn player as head coach? Not in a million years maybe 2 million years :laugher:

So, I guess im an idiot. :bowdown:
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Well, actually the reverse was true.... "Brother" Bill Oliver, a UAT (God how they hate that!) alumnus, coached at Auburn in the '60s and again in the '90s for Tater Tot & was Interim Head Coach after Tot quit mid-season before Tubby was hired 10 years ago.

And if an ex-dog could beat UGag 50% of the time, who cares where he got his Physical Education (actually in WM's case I think it was Business) degree?

Just one old letterman's opinion...
 
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DeepSnap said:
Well, actually the reverse was true.... "Brother" Bill Oliver, a UAT (God how they hate that!) alumnus, coached at Auburn in the '60s and again in the '90s for Tater Tot & was Interim Head Coach after Tot quit mid-season before Tubby was hired 10 years ago.

And if an ex-dog could beat UGag 50% of the time, who cares where he got his Physical Education (actually in WM's case I think it was Business) degree?

Just one old letterman's opinion...
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Are you saying Bill Oliver was a Univ. of Alabama grad what is this UAT stuff?
In any event, he was NOT named head coach...Again, find me a single instance where there was a named head coach of an ARCH rival to coach at that other school.....
We would still be the 1st.

It doesn't matter, I don't think it will happen.
 
gatorbuzz said:
What is guaranteed is that this process has been interesting, and probably will continue to be. I'm trying to sort out how I feel about possible candidates based on an "excitement" factor. Bear with me:

Candidates could be roughly sorted into three subsets:

1) those with prior ties to DRad
2) those with prior ties to GT
3) those on the "fast track", or those that are often mentioned for other jobs, but don't necessarily have previous ties to DRad or GT (but they could)

These subsets aren't theoretically mutually exclusive.

Edsall is in subset #2 and (as far as I can tell) not in #1. Muschamp is in #1 and #3. Hatcher is in #3. We can go down the list.

My reason for thinking about this is to help myself understand why some coaches generate more excitement than others (my own excitement). I think what I have come to understand is that someone only in subset #2 is not going to do it for me. Part of why I am excited about this process is that 1) DRad is making a change, and 2) we will wipe Braine's stamp from the program.

By going with someone in subset #2 (only - not in subset 1 or 3) how are we doing anything different from what Braine could do?

I'm certainly not saying this is the right way to think about it, or that Edsall isn't the best candidate. I'm excited about a change first and foremost. I just think that my excitement about the change will be tempered some if we choose someone in subset #2 only. I'm not claiming this is rational logic.

But is Edsall being mentioned b/c he has previous ties? If not, then why aren't other schools targeting him?

Somebody help me out.
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Edsall is who Syracuse wants. Nobody has flown under the radar more than Edsall, but he is still in your category #3. I don't think Muschamp would be a serious candidate anywhere if Rad wasn't talking him up. His defenses are not even very good on paper.
 
GTCrew said:
Edsall is who Syracuse wants. Nobody has flown under the radar more than Edsall, but he is still in your category #3. I don't think Muschamp would be a serious candidate anywhere if Rad wasn't talking him up. His defenses are not even very good on paper.
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Didn't I read earlier this week (or even last week) that Syracuse gave a public vote of confidence in their coach and he will be back next year. I'm almost certain I did.

Muschamp's name has been coming up all over the place the last week or so - not just at Tech.
 
gatorbuzz said:
Didn't I read earlier this week (or even last week) that Syracuse gave a public vote of confidence in their coach and he will be back next year. I'm almost certain I did.
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Dr. Daryl Gross, director of athletics at Syracuse University says, "I have evaluated our football program now that the 2007 season has concluded and want to make clear that Greg Robinson remains Syracuse University’s head football coach.”

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Re: 1gtfan: To answer your ? Yep....

1gtfan said:
Again, find me a single instance where there was a named head coach of an ARCH rival to coach at that other school.....
We would still be the 1st.
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Brad Scott
 
Apparently Syracuse didn't have the coach fairy drop in with $5 million. They will be looking for a coach soon and Edsall is their top choice.
 
Re: 1gtfan: To answer your ? Yep....

clapper said:
Brad Scott
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WRONG...Brad Scott was neither a former Clemson or South Carolina player. And just becausev he went on to be a coordinator at the other school he was not the head coach.
 
could you please clarify your question?

this doesnt make that much sense to me..
find me a single instance where there was a named head coach of an ARCH rival to coach at that other school.....
 
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