Randy Edsall research...

Mover, if you say it I believe you. I don't know him personally and was just thinking that a one year stopover doesn't necessarily qualify him as knowing a program or area. Obviously he knows GT better than I thought, I stand corrected. I do still worry about his recruiting down here, but he's moving up the list w/ your endorsement!
 
1865Jacket said:
I understand what your saying, I just don't want to declare him a miracle worker or the right man for our job just yet. Also, what's with the "he knows GT and Atlanta". He was here for 1 year as DC. I think he's a good coach, but not sure about his recruiting. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy. He just wouldn't be my first choice. I just think Paul Johnson has done a better job at Navy and knows Georgia much better.

Also, the thing about shouldn't beat USF and having no tradition and no facilities...actually work better for USF, they haven't been 1-A as long as UCONN and have done better.
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I got to thinking about your comparison of UCONN and USF, so I tracked down some numbers. Both USF and UCONN have been in I-A since 2000, so it makes for a nice comparison of the two coaches. Leavitt and Edsall have both been the HC of their respective school during its entire time in I-A. SO here goes:

USF has a winning % of 0.629 since 2000 (0.542 vs. I-A teams). Their average opp. winning % is 0.516. USF had a winning % of 0.606 the three seasons prior to joining I-A.

UCONN has a winning % of 0.500 since 2000 (0.475 vs. I-A teams). Their average opp. winning % is 0.478. UCONN had a winning % of 0.600 the three seasons prior to joining I-A.

There is a striking difference between the winning % of the two coaches. However, I would argue that USF has a distinct advantage in recruiting and $$ based upon their location (obvious) and student population (42K at USF vs. 28K at UCONN).

All that being said, if I had to choose between Leavitt and Edsall, I'd choose Edsall.
 
I'm still at a loss as to why Edsall would even consider a move from UConn to here. He's at a growing DIA school that is winning in a conference that is arguably better than the ACC. The school has a winning tradition with two basketball programs and has never been lacking for funds. The State loves football and draws from the entire region fanwise. They love him and would need to find another coach if he leaves who they will have to pay top dollar to continue the momentum. So, why not pay him?

What exactly, besides warmer weather (and no water) can we point to as a selling point over the job he already has?

I don't see him going anywhere.
 
Oh come on Clapper. If Tech truly is a worse job than UCONN then why on earth are we talking about firing a 7 win coach?

Tech is a better football school than UConn in all respects. Facilities, fans, money, recruiting, exposure, history, tradition. For every tangible and intangible we are a better program than UConn. The only reason to stay in UConn is if the money's better or he's got personal reasons. (wife veto's a move to Atlanta)
 
EDSALL is my choice. I spent 1 year playing for him and enjoyed every minute of it. Great recruiter, energetic, motivated, enthusiastic.... He is the kind of coach that players WANT to play well for

I hope he will consider us
 
56Jacket said:
EDSALL is my choice. I spent 1 year playing for him and enjoyed every minute of it. Great recruiter, energetic, motivated, enthusiastic.... He is the kind of coach that players WANT to play well for

I hope he will consider us
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Great Endorsement from a fan favorite!
 
56Jacket said:
EDSALL is my choice. I spent 1 year playing for him and enjoyed every minute of it. Great recruiter, energetic, motivated, enthusiastic.... He is the kind of coach that players WANT to play well for

I hope he will consider us
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56, IIRC the year Randy was defensive coordinator at Tech the D scored a touchdown in many if not most games. Do you recall the total TDs scored by the D that year?
 
It was 8 or 9 games in a row....some kind of record iirc:wow:

whereas gailey holds the record for suckiest games EVER against georgie, clemson, and VT:biggthumpup:.

Man, I really need to stop raunching on our coach but........
 
wesleyd21 said:
It was 8 or 9 games in a row....some kind of record iirc:wow:

whereas gailey holds the record for suckiest games EVER against georgie, clemson, and VT:biggthumpup:.

Man, I really need to stop raunching on our coach but........
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Not 100% sure but i believe he has the record for the worse loss ever to Maryland too.
 
clapper said:
I'm still at a loss as to why Edsall would even consider a move from UConn to here. He's at a growing DIA school that is winning in a conference that is arguably better than the ACC. The school has a winning tradition with two basketball programs and has never been lacking for funds. The State loves football and draws from the entire region fanwise. They love him and would need to find another coach if he leaves who they will have to pay top dollar to continue the momentum. So, why not pay him?

What exactly, besides warmer weather (and no water) can we point to as a selling point over the job he already has?

I don't see him going anywhere.
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GT is light years ahead of UCONN in terms of exposure, prestige and recruiting base. Unless he really enjoys playing 2 or 3 games per year on Friday night then GT is clearly a step up:)

Some people on here amaze me with how low their opinion is of GT program.
 
goldmember said:
GT is light years ahead of UCONN in terms of exposure, prestige and recruiting base. Unless he really enjoys playing 2 or 3 games per year on Friday night then GT is clearly a step up:)
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Absolutely! Atlanta could arguably be called the center of the college football universe because it is located at the crossroad of the ACC and SEC, while the south is littered with football powerhouses and tradition. Four National Championships and still Tech has yet to realize its full potential.
 
Fwiw, Barnhart on 790 this morning was asked "how good a job is the Tech job." On a scale of 1-10, he gives us a 7.5, said the football factories were 9s or 10s, and places like Maryland and Virginia are 6.5s or 7s.

Somehow I don't think UConn cracks 5.
 
beej67 said:
Fwiw, Barnhart on 790 this morning was asked "how good a job is the Tech job." On a scale of 1-10, he gives us a 7.5, said the football factories were 9s or 10s, and places like Maryland and Virginia are 6.5s or 7s.

Somehow I don't think UConn cracks 5.
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I think that's fair. The academics is what makes it a 7.5. Everything else is in place for us to be a powerhouse - 90% of the other schools out that can't say that.
 
The thing that troubles me is many times you see coaches like RE in a position to make a big leap in their career and end up like an Urban Meyer who goes to Florida. I wonder if we would be that same jump, since there is likely to be an opening at somewhere like an Oklahoma which seems higher on the scale of 1-10. With that said what would you guys think is a 7.5-9 program? VT, South Carolina, etc? Hopefully we have enough positive momentum in the program outside of the win and loss column to be attractive to him.
 
refrigeratormover said:
I spent 6 months with the guy and he is one of maybe 2 or 3 that truly understands GT and the hill. He would be a great hire and he's who I'm backing.
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John,

thanks for the info. when you say you spne time with him, I'm confused. You didn't work with him did you? Did you spend social time?

I was fine with him and think he would do very well here but if he started going for 2 in the 1st quarter last week, I'm leery.

Maybe you could be his stats man on the sideline telling him when to call TO, go for 2, etc :D
 
Sorry, I still think all y'all are vastly misjudging the situation.

First, UConn is on the upswing, while our program is stuck in neutral. That momentum was built by the guy you expect to drop everything to come into a situation where he'll get fired for consistently throwing up 7 win seasons while he TRIES to get to that next level. As opposed to coaching a team whose fans wish they could consistently win 7 games while trying to get to the next level.

Second, the Big East does not take a backseat to the ACC when it comes to football. The top teams in that conference have the same opportunity for the BCS and basically play opposite us in many of the rest of the bowls.

Third, they're the only game in town. His biggest local competition is BC. And not only does he not have to play them, they aren't even in the same State.

Fourth, UConn is trying to build the exact same thing we are. They have the resources to retain the coach and improve facilities. AND they already have him under contract.

When you look at the better coaches in the Big East - Edsall, Schiano, Rodriguez, Leavitt - I just don't believe they look at ACC schools as any better situation than they have right now. Let the top schools from the SEC or Big ## coming calling with astronomical contracts and they'll listen. But they will only use the ACC as a hammer to get a contract extension.
 
clapper said:
Third, they're the only game in town. His biggest local competition is BC. And not only does he not have to play them, they aren't even in the same State.
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They have so much competition it's not funny. To put this in perspective, I went on in the middle of the night Saturday/sunday trying to figure out if they went for 2 in the 1st quarter last week.

the NY times has maybe 5 paragraphs on the game(they played Rutgers - who is getting whatever NYC attention will be paid to Big East football).

Hartford had nothing on the game. They evidently don't even put up anything til the day after.

Boston doesn't know UCONN exists.

Basically, Randy is playing a game that gets no more coverage than UCONN women's basketball in CONN and is not even acknowledged elsewhere in the NE.

In CONN, here's how it goes:

1. Red Sox
2. Yankees
3. Pats
4. Giants
5. Mets
6. Celtics
7. NY Rangers
8. Boston Bruins
9. UCONN Men's bball
10. Uconn Women's bball
11. - 20. - Lots of other stuff mostly NBA and NHL

Somewhere below the interest of the defunct Hartford Whalers that will likely be given back to Hartford one day soon you can find the level of interest of UCONN football.

Imagine Gwinnett Minor League hockey and that's about what UCONN football is up there.
 
clapper said:
That momentum was built by the guy you expect to drop everything to come into a situation where he'll get fired for consistently throwing up 7 win seasons while he TRIES to get to that next level. As opposed to coaching a team whose fans wish they could consistently win 7 games while trying to get to the next level.
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I think you are overlooking a lot of the frustration that people have though. It isn't that he hasn't consistantly gotten over 7 wins. Frustrating, yeah, but not the end of the world. I think for many people, myself included, it's how he went about those 7 wins (and usually 5 losses). People say that at the end of the day all that matters is the record, but I don't think that is even close to being true...
 
If we had Edsall, our DBs would have more INTs for TDs than our WRs have this year.
 
Most of our D scores under Edsall were fumble recoveries, weren't they?

beej67,
only vaguely remembers..
 
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