Reminder: Vote Romney

Thanks Mitt for the 4 phone calls throughout the day.

I didn't check my messages yesterday, but I got a Clinton recording a few days ago.


gtl said:
Beej. Please.

I did no such thing. I quoted from and linked to the Amazon review of the book.

No, what you did, was this:

bj said:
GTL's a true master baiter. He posts "all vegetarians gas jews," but in such a way it's merely an obvious inference instead of a bald accusation, and sits back, insulated from responsibility for his posts.

Enjoy your insulation from responsibility, you earned it. ;)
 
I LOVE LOW TAXES, NOT HAVING MY MONEY DESTROYED BY A FAULTY NON-GOVERNMENT ORGANIZATION, A STABLE FOREIGN POLICY, AND CAN THINK OUTSIDE OF WHAT THE NEWS TELLS ME TO THINK!

I AM ABSOF***INGLUTELY CRAZY!!!

See, strict constitutionalism is "crazy" nowadays. The opinions of the authors of the declaration of independence, and of the constitution, and of the bill of rights, would be dismissed as "whacko" by the modern media and both parties.

If our founding fathers were alive today, they'd all be thrown in jail.

That's how far REMOVED both parties are from what it TRULY MEANS TO BE AMERICAN.
 
Beej. Please.

Your inference that I advocate for vegetarians to gas Jews is as bad an obfuscation as any that ol' fart has posted. Perhaps worse, because it deals with violence against an entire race instead of a game, no matter how non-seriously it is intended.

I am no more responsible for the direction this thread has taken than I am for the innumerable threads that deterioated into "Gailey sucks donkey dings and you're a lying idiot if you think otherwise". In fact, unless I recall incorrectly, it was your comments that inflamed the direction of the thread, was it not ol' L'Agent Provocateur?

GTL,
Perfectly willing to accept responsibility for that which I am actually responsible for.




PS - Irregardless (yes I know that's not a word) of the good Doctor's excellent publicized policies, the fact remains that he is the chosen candidate of the conspiracy racist nut jobs of the country. Besides which, even Paul has submitted his share of pork barrel earmarks, something the Mac has never done.
 
Re: the road to serfdom

Rawls is a bona-fide moron; his "veil of ignorance" argument is pure socialist garbage.

No doubt...that's exactly what I was saying. However, given the entrenchment of Rawls ideas in the hearts of our current political elites, it helps to be able to make a more sophisticated argument. Hayek, Nozick, and Milton Friedman do that--and unlike some of the books that have been suggested in this thread, these folks are credible thinkers and are viewed as such by even those that disagree with them.

If you have kids in college, it's time to give them these books b/c outside of a few schools, they will not hear much of Nozick, Hayek, or Friedman. To Tech's credit, professors who were very much in line with Rawls introduced me to these thinkers.



Sorry if there was confusion.
 
Your inference that I advocate for vegetarians to gas Jews is as bad an obfuscation as any that ol' fart has posted.

You inferred that all Democrats are Nazis, in an attempt to bait GTO, for your forum amusement. All I did was point out what you were doing.
 
Paul > Obama > * > Clinton

I voted for Obama since Dems are proportional and Reps are winner-take-all and Paul had no chance. Went to Obama party at Fox Sports Grill last night around 10pm, pretty fun.
 
Define God. You seem to imply "Christian God," to which I reply Jews can get elected just fine.

I don't know if god exists so I personally can't define him (Odin ? Zeus ?). In the context of my statement yes I meant "Christian God" all old and white haired with a spiffy robe.

Think about a candidate professing belief in Posiedon as his god, owing to him his families success in the fishery business, he'd be laughed off the stage (or perhaps committed). Yet Bush claims he speaks with god. Crazy crazy world we live in.
 
Actually, BuzzCzar, the book at the link makes a very valid point that liberalism is the path to facism. The Nazis, being the most famous of Nazis, are but one example.

http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841?ie=UTF8&s=books


Read the review of the book at your link with its "valid point". (Hitler was a vegetarian; Himmler was an animal rights activist. Ergo...?)

The Nazi's killed communists and socialists, irrespective (that is a real word) of the name of the party. When any government is involved, names frequently are meaningless as we revert to the doublespeak Orwell foretold in 1984. (Patriot Act, anyone?)
 
Read the review of the book at your link with its "valid point". (Hitler was a vegetarian; Himmler was an animal rights activist. Ergo...?)

The Nazi's killed communists and socialists, irrespective (that is a real word) of the name of the party. When any government is involved, names frequently are meaningless as we revert to the doublespeak Orwell foretold in 1984. (Patriot Act, anyone?)

A valid point but we would all be suspect/paranoid i.e., Winston Smith.

Take the rest of the night off! :biggthumpup:
 
You just lost. I didn't know we were competing, but you just lost.
you misinterpreted, because i was not clear EffinD.

i did not mean to imply that the Libertarians are full of Nazis. What i was saying is that the 'Freedom' parties in European countries tend to have similar policies as the Libertarians with concepts such as more local control of govt, small govt, conservative but more in a conservationist sense and not in the raging evangelical sense. it happens to be that in Austria and Germany especially, these parties have also attracted the very right-wing crowd, in part because for example a local community could forbid immigrant to come in if local laws are supreme. just an example.

i do think that in the US, the Libertarians attract some of the more radical conservatives that say, dont believe in the IRS right to tax or whatever. not because the main ideas of the Libs are wacko, just because the platform is more varied and less defined for the younger Libertarian Party than the Reps or Dems

i apologize for my poor original post
 
you misinterpreted, because i was not clear EffinD.

i did not mean to imply that the Libertarians are full of Nazis. What i was saying is that the 'Freedom' parties in European countries tend to have similar policies as the Libertarians with concepts such as more local control of govt, small govt, conservative but more in a conservationist sense and not in the raging evangelical sense. it happens to be that in Austria and Germany especially, these parties have also attracted the very right-wing crowd, in part because for example a local community could forbid immigrant to come in if local laws are supreme. just an example.

i do think that in the US, the Libertarians attract some of the more radical conservatives that say, dont believe in the IRS right to tax or whatever. not because the main ideas of the Libs are wacko, just because the platform is more varied and less defined for the younger Libertarian Party than the Reps or Dems

i apologize for my poor original post

No problem. To be fair I just kind of skimmed it anyway and am a little surprised that my own post didn't just blow up in my face.

I do wish the 9/11 truthers would stay at home instead of campaigning for Ron Paul.
 
Why not 2 cents here.
I am a huge fan of the Jews. I like them in part because they are not thin skinned. We are members of the JCC. I really hope I can get the kids into daycare there. I like the irish too because they never complain about irish jokes. People need to stop being so offended. If somebody says something offensive I suggest trying to ignore it. You will be happier.

Fiscal conservatives are screwed. Paul is a good vote for fiscal responsibility, but IIUC he wouldn't have even attacked the Taliban. His foreign policy would make Carter look like Ben Franklin.

Bush burned us conservatives. I'm not sure, since it seems inevitable, that I'm not willing to go Socialist in one fell swoop vs the death of a thousand cuts. Hows that for mixed metaphors.

I have money to invest, but i'm not sure it's not time to start hiding it from the Socialists.
 
I like the irish too because they never complain about irish jokes.

Nice. I can trace my dad's heritage to 100 percent pure Irish and I know we can't say anything because they're all true. Every last one of them.

Except for the Family Guy one. We didn't invent alcohol, although we wish we had.

By the way, the three shortest books in the English language? Irish contributions to society, Jewish business ethics and French war heroes.
 
By the way, the three shortest books in the English language? Irish contributions to society, Jewish business ethics and French war heroes.


Not Irish, but have to argue with you on one point. The irish monks arguably saved western civilization with the fall of the Roman Empire (and there is a pretty decent book about it, as well.)

http://bookreviewsforgod.blogspot.com/2006/11/how-irish-saved-civilization.html

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070617112720AAPZ8jm&show=7
 
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