Roster Updates

The article also said Zack Owens is gone. Maybe we already knew this, but I don’t think I had heard it.

If I was GT football, I would put up a billboard near the UGA, Alabama, Ohio State, etc. practice fields saying, GT has 15 schlorships available, plenty of playing time to offer, call 1-800-GCollins.
 
The article also said Zack Owens is gone. Maybe we already knew this, but I don’t think I had heard it.

If I was GT football, I would put up a billboard near the UGA, Alabama, Ohio State, etc. practice fields saying, GT has 15 schlorships available, plenty of playing time to offer, call 1-800-GCollins.
1. Go to CS department
2. Offer scholarship to students who create AI that can call offensive plays and predict opponent plays while on defense the best
3. Profit
 
1. Go to CS department
2. Offer scholarship to students who create AI that can call offensive plays and predict opponent plays while on defense the best
3. Profit
Know what? öööö it. I’m sponsoring a cap stone for the MS Analytics program this year. I’m going to make them work on this.
 
Quote from the story:
" With so many new faces on the staff, Collins said the holdover assistants brought the new coaches out to the practice fields on Wednesday for a run-through on how practice typically works. "

The question is who was showing who how a practice typically works lol
Judging by portal exits, seems like the new coaches are showing the old guys how it works.
 
1. Go to CS department
2. Offer scholarship to students who create AI that can call offensive plays and predict opponent plays while on defense the best
3. Profit
Sheldon Cooper has used up his eligibility! He did help his Dad coach in hs though and his grandma make better bets.
 
73 so you think we’d be very very aggressive in the portal. If you assume we lose 5-8 more through some form of attrition, that means we could add 15-20 transfers before the season starts. Really weird spot to be in.
You do realize how many people would have to be basically forced out per year for this?
That’s fair though - if players are free to bail out at their leisure, it should also be OK for schools to pull scholly offers.
 
Lol ok smart guy, you tell me how we could take 25 every year.
It’s been covered a million times. Kids leave, transfer, quit, take medicals every year. Most years is 10-15; now it seems like it will be 20-25. Coaches should understand what is going on and plan accordingly.
Hell we only had 3 kids portal after signing day. So we would have been at, what, 76? Still 9 short of 85 at that time.
 
None of that is new information. It’s just a summary of what’s already been said. What part are you discouraged about?
I knew there was nothing new there, but I had not seen it all summed up in one place, and I just found that entire summary of the roster, with freshmen and other unproven newcomers very discouraging. Based on what I read there, I really don't see how we could possibly win more than one game this year.
 
I knew there was nothing new there, but I had not seen it all summed up in one place, and I just found that entire summary of the roster, with freshmen and other unproven newcomers very discouraging. Based on what I read there, I really don't see how we could possibly win more than one game this year.
So your big revelation came from having everything summarized that we’ve all been talking about for months? And THAT gave you the realization that we would only win one game? I’ve heard enough here to make my ruling.
 
So your big revelation came from having everything summarized that we’ve all been talking about for months? And THAT gave you the realization that we would only win one game? I’ve heard enough here to make my ruling.
Give me a break. YES, I have known it all in bits and pieces for months, and YES, I didn't expect much, if any, better. But it hits home a lot harder when it's all summed up in one place. Does that make sense to you? SHEESH
 
Give me a break. YES, I have known it all in bits and pieces for months, and YES, I didn't expect much, if any, better. But it hits home a lot harder when it's all summed up in one place. Does that make sense to you? SHEESH

I dunno. The article didn't seem overly negative to me. We lost a couple of important guys, brought in some guys we aren't sure about yet, upgraded the coaching staff. I don't see how this makes you think we only win a game.
 
I dunno. The article didn't seem overly negative to me. We lost a couple of important guys, brought in some guys we aren't sure about yet, upgraded the coaching staff. I don't see how this makes you think we only win a game.
I like the coaching additions, and they certainly won't hurt, and will hopefully help A LOT. But there's just too little depth and too much inexperience.
 
I dunno. The article didn't seem overly negative to me. We lost a couple of important guys, brought in some guys we aren't sure about yet, upgraded the coaching staff. I don't see how this makes you think we only win a game.
it remains to be seen if the coaching staff changes are actually upgrades or if they can overcome the remaining HC and DC.
A positive in the article was that all incoming transfers are enrolled and will participate in spring practice.
 
It’s been covered a million times. Kids leave, transfer, quit, take medicals every year. Most years is 10-15; now it seems like it will be 20-25. Coaches should understand what is going on and plan accordingly.
Hell we only had 3 kids portal after signing day. So we would have been at, what, 76? Still 9 short of 85 at that time.

For starters, you can't plan accordingly when you don't know who will transfer or when. This is one reason we need set windows for kids to enter the portal. Secondly, when it does happen, you don't automatically just fill up the vacant spots with HS signees or mid-year transfers. With the transfer portal now always active, you don't just take a kid at signing day just to fill your roster spots. There's a second wave of guys that hit the portal post-Spring practice so it's smart to save spots to pick up any of those guys you can. We had 4 go in the portal after signing day, and Ivey went in 2 days before it. You don't just go find any DE in 2 days to replace him. So that's 5, we would be at 78. We also have 3 guys that were just recently declared medically ineligible for football. The staff may have expected or known those so we'll keep it at 78. With the amount of depth we need currently, it's smart to save those 7 spots for transfers with experience that can be game ready. Coaches aren't psychic so they couldn't plan ahead for 12 open spots instead of 7.

You can call it excuses all you want but with the transfer portal and kids still out there with extra Covid years, it's extremely difficult to sign full HS classes unless you already have the room in December. It's not a GT thing, it's happening everywhere. Here's a breakdown of the ACC since 2019 (CGC's first recruiting class).

ACC teams with 20+ HS signees:
2019 - 11
2020 - 9
2021 - 7
2022 - 3

The past couple of years some of those teams only had 20+ signees because they were teams like VT and BC that had some low classes in 19/20 and a bunch of transfers out with very few in. They had a lot of signees but it didn't necessarily translate to a high ranking or "good" class. Here is the average number of recruits for the top 5 ranked classes since 2019.

ACC top 5 average number of HS signees:
2019 - 24
2020 - 24
2021 - 20
2022 - 18

Here's another look at GT total number in each class counting HS and transfers since 2019:

2019: 21 HS / 5 T = 26 Total
2020: 24 HS / 3 T = 27 Total
2021: 16 HS / 10 T = 26 Total
2022: 15 HS / 7 T = 22 Total

So we are already at 22 total for the 2022 class and haven't even added any post-Spring transfers. Looks to me like we are about where we should be and probably about where they had planned to be but didn't expect as many transfers. And for whoever asked have we ever started a season with 85 scholarship players, yes every year.
 
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Quote from the story:
" With so many new faces on the staff, Collins said the holdover assistants brought the new coaches out to the practice fields on Wednesday for a run-through on how practice typically works. "

The question is who was showing who how a practice typically works lol
The practices apparently don’t work very well.
 
You do realize how many people would have to be basically forced out per year for this?
25 x 5 = 125 and you’re allowed to have 85 so we’re looking at 8 per year of R-FR & up group graduate before year 5, enter NFL draft, get medical, enter the portal or quit. It’s a little less than 1/10 of the core roster annually and if spread out over 5 years is a little less than 2 of the original 25 heads per year. Does this seem unreasonable?
 
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