SEC vs. Big 10

Essobee said:
Good lord. Not again. If I agree with you once more, I'm going to have myself committed.
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Some people (Czar, Bee) actually make good posts outside of OT. Just think of him as two different people, OT Bee and Non-OT Bee.

Now only if vBulletin could be configured to only block someone if one forum....
 
GTDan21 said:
Why?? Do you really care who wins the big Northwestern-Minnesota showdown? Why would you care about Ohio State and Michigan over watching Florida-Georgia or Auburn-Alabama? CFB is by nature a regional sport until December and January, so who cares who wins matchups outside the southeast?
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I would watch Ohio State - Michigan over those, or even any game that Georgia Tech isn't playing in. I really don't care at all about Auburn-Alabama, Alabama-Tennessee, Miss-Miss.St., and have a sporting interest in ugag-Florida only because I always hope for ugag to lose. My favorite two teams are Georgia Tech and whoever's playing ugag.
 
Robert E. Bee said:
IMO, your last line says alot. Things have changed and this Big 10 opportunity (if it happens) is unique for GT at this moment in history.

The money is paramount because GT needs it very badly. The Big 10 is a considerably higher payout than even the SEC. Joining the Big 10 would place GT is an absolutely bright national spotlight. Moving into the SEC, atention on GT would likely disappear an hour after the press conference. And I'm not sure AT ALL why we'd do anything whatsoever to support or help the SEC by closing out the Atlanta market on their behalf. Here is an opportunity to make UGAG and the SEC rue the day they rejected our request for reentry. Even now, the "feelers" they sent out ignored us for Clemson and FSU. And we could give ourselves and the Big 10 a special new recruiting tool in Georgia.

Giving GT the unique membership in the Big 10 in Atlanta would give Tech huge visibility and attention every week. Beating visiting Big 10 opponents in Atlanta will be victories for the south and southern football in general and Tech would likely get plenty of new support from southern fans in general.

IMHO, we need to focus on the future not the past. What happened in the 1940's, and 50's is ancient history. The media and electronic age has created new opportunities for GT in the Big 10 - even beyond the money. GT can take advantage of its academic AND athletics reputations if we focus on the 21st century and shrink the georgraphic differences that have separated north and south. There would be huge nationwide attention focused on Tech.

For decades I've heard Tech people complain about a northern/midwestern media bias. Well, if its true, why not make use of it? Let them give Tech the attention we've wanted all these years. IMO, CPJ would be frothing at the mouth to go to Columbus, Ann Arbor etc and beat "those people". GT in the Rose Bowl would be an utterly historic occasion. But the Big 10 also has numerous other attractive warm weather bowls as well.

IMO, Tech became a bad fit for the SEC academically and with respect to their myriad of rule breaking and bending chicanery. Demographics changed against Tech's interests back in the 60's but now the TV marketing/conference opportunities may have turned back in our favor - but only if we fully take advantage of it. And that means not slinking quietly back into the SEC as an afterthought.

But most important, we wouldn't have to worry about all that SEC speed.:laugher:
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I mean, just darn! This is a GREAT post! Perhaps Football Forum POTY quality.

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It's simple. We will never compete in the SEC week in and week out with the SEC. We got out in the 60's and I saw this for myself. The SEC has a different agenda, FOOTBALL, rather than education. The Big Ten has similar values that we have. If they come south and get one or two of our present rivals such as Clemson, FSU, or Miami, it's a no brainer. We will NEVER compete for a national championship in the SEC. It may be possible if we were in the Big ?? every 20 years or so if our stars line up right. I pray we don't sacrifice our values by going back to the SEC and being a Vanderbilt +.
 
The SEC doesn't want us. They have our market already. We have nothing they don't already have, except academics and they don't care about that.

The southern and national press won't pay us any more attention in the SEC than they do now. We won't shine brightly enough to outshine Alabama, LSU and Florida, etc. We may get a few more recruits, but honestly, with the poor graduation reports lately, how many more marginal academic S-A's are we gloing to be allowed to take?

In the Big Ten, we would be a novelty with the midwestern press. We'd still be behind OSU, UoM and PSU in notoriety, but we'd be in a lot more national spotlight, especially if we won big there. We'd be valued for our academics as well as our athletics. We'd be unique, and the southern press would even take note of our success there, albeit to trump up the SEC more. But publicity is publicity.

The money would be great!
 
In mulling over a possible choice between SEC & Big 10+, as I have stated before, the nostalgia involving old rivals attracts many of us from the "old school," but, considering the Big10 $$$, many of us could be swayed.

Additionally, as far as national exposure goes, I travel A LOT and wherever I go outside of the South, Big 10 highlights get lots of play. Also, even the lesser programs like Northwestern still get their share of ink throughout the nation. I attribute this to their intersectional ties with the Pac-10. Often, aside from a highly ranked team, SEC games are relagated to the small AP blurb paragraph. Of course, it's a challenge to get anything about the ACC if the team is not in the rankings.

Finally, my daughter was a career athlete at Northwestern back in the 90's. Even though their bowl years are a little rare, their facilities (outside of the not yet rennovated older stadium) were always 1st class. Clearly, their share of Big 10 $$$ was sizable and kept them funded in the high dollar Chicago area.
 
I can't help but FEEL anyne who prefers watching "big ten" ball over SOUTHERN ball is a transplanted Yankee---but that's OK---'cept to me that's kinda like watching softball over baseball.
 
BEEFENSE said:
I can't help but FEEL anyne who prefers watching "big ten" ball over SOUTHERN ball is a transplanted Yankee---but that's OK---'cept to me that's kinda like watching softball over baseball.
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so Vandy-Ole Miss is better than Ohio State-Iowa?
or UK-Tenn is better than Michigan-Mich. State?

and one of those "big ten" teams beat us in the Orange Bowl dont forget. I guess we need to learn how to play softball then
 
BEEFENSE said:
I can't help but FEEL anyne who prefers watching "big ten" ball over SOUTHERN ball is a transplanted Yankee---but that's OK---'cept to me that's kinda like watching softball over baseball.
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But just think how much better you'll feel whenever Tech beats a bunch of money grubbin' yankas. And just think how you can show your spite after those games to the Big 10 teams' fans - you know - letting them know that folks down south never forget. It don't matter how much dirty yanka money they hand us, either.

Keep in mind that most of the yankees under Sherman's command were from the midwest. So, some of these guys may be descendants of that horde. You can proudly show your true colors and wave your confederate flag in their faces when they come off the bus to keep your interest up before, during and after those dull, softball type games.:laugher:
 
WTF. I didn't read the rest of this thread, but somehow we're talking about Civil War crap and confederates and yankees? On a football board?

Really guys? Or, should I say "Really, Robert E. Bee?"
 
PTCJacket said:
WTF. I didn't read the rest of this thread, but somehow we're talking about Civil War crap and confederates and yankees? On a football board?

Really guys? Or, should I say "Really, Robert E. Bee?"
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Hey, son, somebody else brought up the "yankee" issue. I just put things in perspective.:roflwtf:
 
Well, I know why Bee's still on my ignore list.

Anyway, I'll accept if we play in the Big 10, especially if the ACC is eviscerated like the Big East was by the ACC and the Big 10 was the only option. But the thread is titled, after all, "SEC vs. Big 10," and you'd be out of your mind to prefer Big 10 membership to SEC membership.
 
Big 10 all the way. I would much prefer Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State. Iowa, Illinois and the rest coming in here than anything the SEC has to offer. We would dominate the media coverage in the Big 10.
 
This is about the 21st century not the 20th. On-line streaming, etc. 3D games on paper thin (painted on?) nanotech screens on a large wall at home - so HD/real you can't tell the difference. Self zoom in and out. It's all about the $/branding/media.

- A Southern team or two in the BIG 10/11/12/16 is able to create a separate brand with expanded footprint. GT gets lost in the SEC. GT in BIG XX gets moral support from Bubbas vs yankees.

- Southern football is about speed, and southern HSs have spring and extended summer practices. These are natural advantages in BIG XX, and expand our Southern recruting footprint as we play a more national schedule.

- Did you see that Iowa had somewhat more people in Miami than we did? (I went). They didn't win their conference - it was the number 2 bowl. It is a damn long drive to Miami from the near north pole. Do you see how many BIG XX people go to the Rose Bowl - looonnng trip? Ever been to Disney World between Christmas and New Year's and seen all the BIG XX sweatshirts for the bowl games?

- Oh-and did I say money?

- I've seen GT play at Alabama, at Vandy, at Tenn, at Auburn, at So Carolina, at UGA. I was happy when we went to the ACC. My dad grew up in Columbus, Ohio (aka Buckeye fan) and is a gator grad. My wife is an Auburn grad. I love college football and learned early to hate the Dawgs. But the future is for those who write it, not who live in the past.

I love both SEC and BIG XX football, but I say we jump on the BIG XX boat.
 
Robert E. Bee said:
Hey, son, somebody else brought up the "yankee" issue. I just put things in perspective.:roflwtf:
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YANKEE as in GEOGRAPHICAL ---NOT socio/eco/cultural etc.---Hell my wife is a YANKEE---get a grip BEE--lighten up--I do not wear a robe and hood---:biggthumpup:
 
BEEFENSE said:
YANKEE as in GEOGRAPHICAL ---NOT socio/eco/cultural etc.---Hell my wife is a YANKEE---get a grip BEE--lighten up--I do not wear a robe and hood---:biggthumpup:
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Actually, I thought it was a gratuitous slap in the face of Big 10, northern football. Geez, its not like we've dominated Notre Dame, Penn St and the Big 10 in general.

Reality is that there are good and poor teams north and south and thus you shouldn't generalize negatively about northern football. There's some pretty junky football down here, too.

Frankly, USC(W) and other western teams have been great at times, too. We've properly ridiculed "SEC speed" in the past and there are indeed perenially lousy SEC teams. Hey, I love good college football from whatever section it emanates.

I would reserve the right to act totally snobby the first time GT wins a Big 10 title, hi-evah.
 
Robert E. Bee said:
I would reserve the right to act totally snobby the first time GT wins a Big 10 title, hi-evah.
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How many schools are there that have won a conference title in three contemporary conferences, or even in three conferences ever?
 
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