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Jmonty71 said:
I think Sims has raw talent. I think he is fast and has the basic skills. However; what he lacks is football IQ. He has not received very good coaching, in my opinion. Whether Sims isn't listening and just cannot apply his skills or our coaches just can't coach, is debatable. Regardless of the reason, the end result is the same. We have a QB that locks on to single targets. We have a QB, that has poor field awareness. We have a QB, that doesn't understand defenses. We have a QB that lacks that ability to throw, with accuracy. From my perspective, they need to scrap Sims. However; I can't say the next one in line, will do any better.
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Only one way to find out…
 
JJacket said:
He wants attaboys. We have always had posters who have waited for bad times so they can öööö on everything and feel superior to the rest of the fandom. He is one of those
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What grade would you give Sims for the WCU game?
 
recktification said:
Only one way to find out…
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And it isn't going to happen. I know you love being an armchair coach, but obviously the staff believes our best option for winning is Sims.

Last season, you idiots were calling for Yates. He got his chance against ND and UGAg and couldn't do öööö. Now, morons like you want to go down the roster and get the second stringer because of some belief you have that the second stringer is somehow better.
 
JJacket said:
And it isn't going to happen. I know you love being an armchair coach, but obviously the staff believes our best option for winning is Sims.

Last season, you idiots were calling for Yates. He got his chance against ND and UGAg and couldn't do öööö. Now, morons like you want to go down the roster and get the second stringer because of some belief you have that the second stringer is somehow better.
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Yates hasn't had a good first two starts at Sam Houston State, either
 
recktification said:
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This is true. However; I think Sims will be our QB. I don't think we want to or need to add a QB controversy to the list of issues. Now, if Collins is fired, before end of season? I think it will be open season, for every spot.
 
recktification said:
What grade would you give Sims for the WCU game?
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I'd give him a B. We won the game. He made two glaring errors that I recall. Had several passes dropped, a few by TE's. He scrambled well and got us some yardage with his feet. Snaps were taken cleanly. We pulled out a few additional running plays in the second half, when needed, to ice the game

We should have stopped WCU more on defense. We let them get out of third down too many times. We didn't contain the QB on scrambles. We got too many penalties extending their drives. Our defense is good at getting teams to third down, but not good at holding them. GT has been like that for over a decade now.

We need TE's to step up. I'd like to see the 6'7" WR dominate the DB who is covering him. If we get the plays to TE and have that threat, it opens the run game for Smith.

Apparently, your hate of Sims had you seeing a much different game
 
JJacket said:
We only needed three passes
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Strongly disagree with this. In my view, our passing game has been very uneven pretty much since Collins got here, and it needs all the in-game reps it can get.
 
JJacket said:
I'd give him a B. We won the game. He made two glaring errors that I recall. Had several passes dropped, a few by TE's. He scrambled well and got us some yardage with his feet. Snaps were taken cleanly. We pulled out a few additional running plays in the second half, when needed, to ice the game

We should have stopped WCU more on defense. We let them get out of third down too many times. We didn't contain the QB on scrambles. We got too many penalties extending their drives. Our defense is good at getting teams to third down, but not good at holding them. GT has been like that for over a decade now.

We need TE's to step up. I'd like to see the 6'7" WR dominate the DB who is covering him. If we get the plays to TE and have that threat, it opens the run game for Smith.

Apparently, your hate of Sims had you seeing a much different game
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Sims does not do pass progressions. He locks on to one target. This isn't good. Especially as we play more talented teams. This will lead Sims into being baited for INTs. He lacks field awareness. Such as running out of bounds 2 yards shy of a first down, when he could of planted his leg and turned up field. I don't hate Sims. In fact, I thought he was going to be the next great QB, for us. However; he just hasn't been that person. Now, whether that's his fault or if it's a product of bad coaching??? That is 100% debatable. I am under the poor coaching umbrella. However; facts are facts. He throws too many INTs. He does not do any progressions. He doesn't have the best accuracy. I think we should be running slants, crosses and angles, to help him. But, we don't. We throw out patterns, fly patterns and screens.
 
originalwombat said:
My assumption is that Clemson provided the O plenty of practice with the passing game, and the second half against WCU provided the same opportunity for the running game. Long appeared to stop trying to set up runs with passes, so I'm guessing Collins told him to just run the ball and see if the team could close out the game on the ground. Unfortunately, we didn't and don't think we can.

Very concerned about this team's ability to hold a lead in the 4th. Yes, that means I think we will be in that situation a few times this year. I believe Long will put points on the board, but this isn't a Friedgen-type offense that can score any time they want. The D might be better than last year, but that ain't hard to do. If we can't run out a clock, we will be giving the ball back a lot late in the game.
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Yeah, that could make sense but is also concerning.

Really looking forward to Ole Miss, it should be a much better measuring stick than either of our first two opponents.
 
andrew said:
The fact that we only threw three passes in the second half contrasts poorly with Clemson in the second half against us.

With that game out of reach, Dabo took the opportunity to get his backup QB meaningful reps in a game situation. With us leading WCU by a decent amount in the second half, we either didn't think our QB who is still trying to fulfill his potential needed extra reps to work on his passing game -- or we were worried that giving him those reps risked losing the lead.

Either way is not encouraging. There aren't likely to be many more easy games where we can work on passing with a comfortable lead in hand.
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He was scared about Sims throwing an interception. It’s in line with the chickenshit football we’re used to seeing with Geoff Collins.
 
MACHETE said:
Let's wait until after the Ole Miss game to pass final judgement on the QB (and the team). In many ways, this will be the most pivotal "at the crossroads" game of CGC's tenure. If we win, I can see us getting to a bowl game; if we lose, we may not win more than 1-2 more games all season.
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Did your account get hacked?
 
Akinji07 said:
He was scared about Sims throwing an interception. It’s in line with the chickenshit football we’re used to seeing with Geoff Collins.
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Damn, you sure are miserable in victory. Reminds me of the lady behind me when CPJ was here saying "why aren't we passing the ball more?" as we were approaching 700 rushing yards against Kansas.

We did what we needed to do to win.
 
Jmonty71 said:
Sims does not do pass progressions. He locks on to one target. This isn't good. Especially as we play more talented teams. This will lead Sims into being baited for INTs. He lacks field awareness. Such as running out of bounds 2 yards shy of a first down, when he could of planted his leg and turned up field. I don't hate Sims. In fact, I thought he was going to be the next great QB, for us. However; he just hasn't been that person. Now, whether that's his fault or if it's a product of bad coaching??? That is 100% debatable. I am under the poor coaching umbrella. However; facts are facts. He throws too many INTs. He does not do any progressions. He doesn't have the best accuracy. I think we should be running slants, crosses and angles, to help him. But, we don't. We throw out patterns, fly patterns and screens.
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I was disappointed in the effort of our WR to go get the ball on the 2nd half pick and there were open receivers underneath. We had open guys underneath, but the coaching staff obviously wanted a home run ball after the Charlie Thomas pick.
 
JJacket said:
I was disappointed in the effort of our WR to go get the ball on the 2nd half pick and there were open receivers underneath. We had open guys underneath, but the coaching staff obviously wanted a home run ball after the Charlie Thomas pick.
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I takes two, to complete a pass. The QB and the WR. So, yes.. It is up to the WR to complete the routes and make themselves a big target. However; it is the QB's job to find the open receiver. I like we are starting to use the RB in the passing game. I wished we did a little more to produce mismatches. I am a fan of the half back angle pass. Most LBs cannot keep up with the speed that the RB provides. So, doing angle routes against a man to man defense is a 8 to 15 gain, almost every time. I am not sure if the homerun pass was a called play or if it was Sims, thinking he could thread a needle. To date, I have seen very little "dime" passes by Sims. They need to stick to high percentage passes. We do a screen, which is good. However; we do out routes, corner routes and fly patterns. I don't like either. The out route and corner route takes a QB with a big arm and can pass in great timing. The fly route requires a deep threat speedster. I don't think we are built for either. I think we have more the possession type WRs. Which means, we should be throwing screens, slants, quick slants, angles, posts and crossing patterns.
 
Akinji07 said:
He was scared about Sims throwing an interception. It’s in line with the chickenshit football we’re used to seeing with Geoff Collins.
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Clown definitely coaches on what to avoid rather than what to go for. He's C3: a Cowardly Clown Coach. Never quite seen anything like him in the ranks of college coaches.
 
JJacket said:
Damn, you sure are miserable in victory. Reminds me of the lady behind me when CPJ was here saying "why aren't we passing the ball more?" as we were approaching 700 rushing yards against Kansas.

We did what we needed to do to win.
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You and I have different expectations from the same team. I’ve been a sports fan for 34 out of 38 years and I never once celebrated mediocrity because I grew up with teams that compete for championships and beat their rivals. I don’t enjoy watching my team just to watch them wear pretty uniforms or being happy that they at least participated or that they barely beat a team they should easily handle. I can give grace periods but we’re way past that with Geoff Collins. That’s why you and I will never see eye to eye on this because you’re a cheerleader and I’m a fanatic.
 
JJacket said:
And it isn't going to happen. I know you love being an armchair coach, but obviously the staff believes our best option for winning is Sims.

Last season, you idiots were calling for Yates. He got his chance against ND and UGAg and couldn't do öööö. .
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Lamar Jackson would have had a hard time doing a damn thing behind that offensive line against those defensive lines.
I blame Patenaude and his buddy Collins for not coming up with something that tailored to what Yates could do. It was as if they took the game plan for 6-4 Sims and handed it to 5-11 Yates with a "hey, good luck running for your life against a defensive front we have no hope of blocking and have no plan for otherwise."

As for Sims currently, I won't see he has improved a lot. Or even that much. The game plan against Clemson - and the biggest improvement is that there was an actual game plan against an opponent - was quick release, short throws to counter the likelihood of their D front making our O line its jail bitch. Sims still had some bad throws - missing a wide open Malachi on the sidelines and throwing a split finger fastball that two hopped a wide receiver screen. He ran OK but we already know he can do that.
He wasn't the reason we lost but his performance was also far from stellar. It was OK.
What is troubling is a less than 50% completion percentage against a team that gave up 35 points to Charleston Southern the week before. Yeah, there were drops, and that hurts. But against a team like that, you'd expect better numbers throwing it.
Teams don't have to game plan for Gibbs anymore but they will start to focus on Dontae. Once that happens, Sims will have to start making more plays in the passing game. And that means accuracy on throws downfield and better reads.
 
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