SMU to ACC?

ClubSeats said:
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Milf takes on a whole new meaning…
 
GTsapper said:
Any of you guys who think there's even a 1% chance the SEC adds GT are either homers living in a fantasy world at best, or at worst are absolutely bat-öööö insane.
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of course we know we’re not one of the cool kids so yeah we’re not going to the SEC but one can dream. It does make the most sense but UGAY, Ole Miss, etc feel that we’re not a part of the good ole boy club and be a part of the SEC
 
GTsapper said:
Any of you guys who think there's even a 1% chance the SEC adds GT are either homers living in a fantasy world at best, or at worst are absolutely bat-öööö insane.
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Obviously you don’t understand things can change. If GT got off its ass and helped football it could be one of the bigger players in any conference. Do you enjoy getting bent over and just saying “haha, hey that’s really cool guys”?
 
KrazieJacket said:
Obviously you don’t understand things can change. If GT got off its ass and helped football it could be one of the bigger players in any conference. Do you enjoy getting bent over and just saying “haha, hey that’s really cool guys”?
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What value would GT add to the SEC? Forget history, no one gives a damn about that. Forget the "Atlanta Market" because they already host the damn championship game in Atlanta. Be honest with yourselves. Our best hope is the Big 10, and I hope we didn't keep ourselves out for good when we refused the last time.
 
GTsapper said:
What value would GT add to the SEC? Forget history, no one gives a damn about that. Forget the "Atlanta Market" because they already host the damn championship game in Atlanta. Be honest with yourselves. Our best hope is the Big 10, and I hope we didn't keep ourselves out for good when we refused the last time.
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It does matter because soon when there are two conferences everybody is going to be watching everybody anyway. You aren’t thinking of time. The matchups are what matter. If GT can get to a level above Vandy, Kentucky. South Carolina, Missouri, Mississippi State, Arkansas it absolutely adds value. For your scenario FSU and Clemson add nothing also. What is the non affiliated football fan more likely to watch? GT Auburn, FSU LSU, Clemson Florida or GT Indiana, Clemson Michigan State, Florida State Wisconsin.
 
GTsapper said:
What value would GT add to the SEC? Forget history, no one gives a damn about that. Forget the "Atlanta Market" because they already host the damn championship game in Atlanta. Be honest with yourselves. Our best hope is the Big 10, and I hope we didn't keep ourselves out for good when we refused the last time.
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The B1G is the reason we could get a SEC invite. The only reason the SEC has for inviting GT is to keep the B1G out of Atlanta and the southeast. That is why thinking the SEC might invite GT is not insane.
 
GTsapper said:
What value would GT add to the SEC? Forget history, no one gives a damn about that. Forget the "Atlanta Market" because they already host the damn championship game in Atlanta. Be honest with yourselves. Our best hope is the Big 10, and I hope we didn't keep ourselves out for good when we refused the last time.
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be honest. Would you go to Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan or Nebraska in Nov to see GT play or would you rather stay close to home and see us play regionally here in the South? You think we travel bad already? Just wait until we’d have to travel to those locations. Again any move outside of the ACC/SEC severely hurts the traveling fans and any sports outside of FB.
 
gt9589 said:
be honest. Would you go to Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan or Nebraska in Nov to see GT play or would you rather stay close to home and see us play regionally here in the South? You think we travel bad already? Just wait until we’d have to travel to those locations. Again any move outside of the ACC/SEC severely hurts the traveling fans and any sports outside of FB.
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At least the market has decided those don't matter anymore, so it's not a knock against us.
 
gt9589 said:
be honest. Would you go to Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan or Nebraska in Nov to see GT play or would you rather stay close to home and see us play regionally here in the South? You think we travel bad already? Just wait until we’d have to travel to those locations. Again any move outside of the ACC/SEC severely hurts the traveling fans and any sports outside of FB.
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It's not about what I want... Of course I want local matchups. But that is not going to happen. Thinking like this is going to end with us in the AAC playing UTSA or something. Hell, I don't even know if they are in the AAC
 
GTsapper said:
It's not about what I want... Of course I want local matchups. But that is not going to happen. Thinking like this is going to end with us in the AAC playing UTSA or something. Hell, I don't even know if they are in the AAC
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I don't think anybody is saying we should turn down a BIG invite. Just of the two, we fit better regionally with the SEC. It would actually be wise for the SEC and ESPN to take GT, Clemson, FSU, Virginia, UNC rather than let them end up BIG. You then drop many of the schools in the ACC and let the BIG scoop those up. ESPN will have all the college sports they need mostly in one conference.
 
All of this talk about adding 'markets' is 10 years old. That was the old model when cable companies had much more pricing power. If you look at the recent shift, it is all about adding programs with wide, national appeal. Adding a smaller school like SMU to get in the Dallas market doesn't matter like it once did if SMU isn't drawing millions of viewers. Big state schools with large fanbases and a history of success (UT, OU, Oregon, Washington) are the prizes. People in San Francisco aren't suddenly going to start watching ACC college football by the millions because Stanford is playing Boston College and Wake on a Saturday afternoon.
 
05GTCorndog said:
All of this talk about adding 'markets' is 10 years old. That was the old model when cable companies had much more pricing power. If you look at the recent shift, it is all about adding programs with wide, national appeal. Adding a smaller school like SMU to get in the Dallas market doesn't matter like it once did if SMU isn't drawing millions of viewers. Big state schools with large fanbases and a history of success (UT, OU, Oregon, Washington) are the prizes. People in San Francisco aren't suddenly going to start watching ACC college football by the millions because Stanford is playing Boston College and Wake on a Saturday afternoon.
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Exactly this
 
gt9589 said:
be honest. Would you go to Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan or Nebraska in Nov to see GT play or would you rather stay close to home and see us play regionally here in the South? You think we travel bad already? Just wait until we’d have to travel to those locations. Again any move outside of the ACC/SEC severely hurts the traveling fans and any sports outside of FB.
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Why not? I've never been to any of those states
 
05GTCorndog said:
All of this talk about adding 'markets' is 10 years old. That was the old model when cable companies had much more pricing power. If you look at the recent shift, it is all about adding programs with wide, national appeal. Adding a smaller school like SMU to get in the Dallas market doesn't matter like it once did if SMU isn't drawing millions of viewers. Big state schools with large fanbases and a history of success (UT, OU, Oregon, Washington) are the prizes. People in San Francisco aren't suddenly going to start watching ACC college football by the millions because Stanford is playing Boston College and Wake on a Saturday afternoon.
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Adding regions still matters to the linear tv model. A sharp turn to streaming is going to lose these companies a lot of money and they are holding off for as long as they can.
 
05GTCorndog said:
All of this talk about adding 'markets' is 10 years old. That was the old model when cable companies had much more pricing power. If you look at the recent shift, it is all about adding programs with wide, national appeal. Adding a smaller school like SMU to get in the Dallas market doesn't matter like it once did if SMU isn't drawing millions of viewers. Big state schools with large fanbases and a history of success (UT, OU, Oregon, Washington) are the prizes. People in San Francisco aren't suddenly going to start watching ACC college football by the millions because Stanford is playing Boston College and Wake on a Saturday afternoon.
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Won’t they still be paying a carriage rate increase for ACC network whether they actually watch the games or not?
 
BigDanT said:
Adding regions still matters to the linear tv model. A sharp turn to streaming is going to lose these companies a lot of money and they are holding off for as long as they can.
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People that go to streaming are mostly getting utubetv, hulu, sling, direct-tv streaming etc, they still going to pay carriage fees for each channel in their tv package. I mean sure there are some who will get a digital antenna and netflix/amazon prime etc and eventually they might just stream their prefered cfb network app with a direct subscription bit i don’t think were there yet
 
THWG247 said:
Won’t they still be paying a carriage rate increase for ACC network whether they actually watch the games or not?
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You think cable companies want to jam a $1 extra monthly fee (or whatever the fee is) to every cable customer's bill to carry the ACC Network in a market that maybe 2% cares about the ACC? That doesn't make sense and I wouldn't carry it in those soft markets.
 
05GTCorndog said:
You think cable companies want to jam a $1 extra monthly fee (or whatever the fee is) to every cable customer's bill to carry the ACC Network in a market that maybe 2% cares about the ACC? That doesn't make sense and I wouldn't carry it in those soft markets.
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Well yeah thats the point of picking up those Cali teams or SMU or Tulane, so they can jam the ACC network down everybody's throats. Think about how many sh!t channels there are on the typical tv package, they love to jam the customer with that bs.
 
THWG247 said:
Well yeah thats the point of picking up those Cali teams or SMU or Tulane, so they can jam the ACC network down everybody's throats. Think about how many sh!t channels there are on the typical tv package, they love to jam the customer with that bs.
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The Cable company isn't profiting from it. ESPN is profiting from it. If I'm the cable company, I'm telling ESPN to öööö off and take that bullshit channel elsewhere. Rather than picking up ööööty teams in areas with small fanbases, add brands. It is what the successful conferences are doing. Stop chasing the business model of 2010. If you can't add strong brands, do nothing.
 
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