So…Can CGC Coach? Here Are Some Facts…

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In 2015 & 2016 he was DC at UF. In the SEC his defense ranked 4th in 2015 giving up 18 points a game and 3rd in 2016 giving up 16 points a game … not bad. They advanced to the SEC championship game both years losing to Bama.
In 2011 - 2012 he was CO-DC at Mississippi State. In the SEC his defense ranked 4th in 2011 giving up 19 points a game and 8th in 2012 giving up 23 points a game. The 2011 team beat Wake Forest in the Music City Bowl and the 2012 team lost to Northwestern in the Gator Bowl.
In 2013-2014 he was DC at Mississippi State. In 2013 his defense ranked 5th in the SEC giving up 23 points a game and his 2014 defense ranked 8th giving up 21 points a game. The 2013 team beat Rice in the Liberty Bowl and the 2014 team got roasted by us in the Orange Bowl.
So I would assume he knows more about defense in his left pinky than we do. So I wonder how much, if any at all, does he help our current DC? That would be a good question to ask. We all know CPJ ran the offense, did that interfere with other HC duties like recruiting? I don’t know. Anyway, CGC is no dummy when it comes to coaching. I just know our defense is giving up a whole lot more than 20 points a game. I’ve got to believe most of that has to do with Jimmy & Joe’s. CGC recruits are just FR & SOPH this year. Well … where does that leave us? Before he was ever hired I would have answered that question by saying the new coach has to have four full recruiting classes taking over a program that ran the TO. But next year we’ve got to see some improvement. With Sims at QB this year I believe we did see better offensive production. On defense we’ve got to get better athletes. With that said I do hope the bashing will cease on the message boards. It can’t help recruiting at all.
 
GoldenIsle said:
In 2015 & 2016 he was DC at UF. In the SEC his defense ranked 4th in 2015 giving up 18 points a game and 3rd in 2016 giving up 16 points a game … not bad. They advanced to the SEC championship game both years losing to Bama.
In 2011 - 2012 he was CO-DC at Mississippi State. In the SEC his defense ranked 4th in 2011 giving up 19 points a game and 8th in 2012 giving up 23 points a game. The 2011 team beat Wake Forest in the Music City Bowl and the 2012 team lost to Northwestern in the Gator Bowl.
In 2013-2014 he was DC at Mississippi State. In 2013 his defense ranked 5th in the SEC giving up 23 points a game and his 2014 defense ranked 8th giving up 21 points a game. The 2013 team beat Rice in the Liberty Bowl and the 2014 team got roasted by us in the Orange Bowl.
So I would assume he knows more about defense in his left pinky than we do. So I wonder how much, if any at all, does he help our current DC? That would be a good question to ask. We all know CPJ ran the offense, did that interfere with other HC duties like recruiting? I don’t know. Anyway, CGC is no dummy when it comes to coaching. I just know our defense is giving up a whole lot more than 20 points a game. I’ve got to believe most of that has to do with Jimmy & Joe’s. CGC recruits are just FR & SOPH this year. Well … where does that leave us? Before he was ever hired I would have answered that question by saying the new coach has to have four full recruiting classes taking over a program that ran the TO. But next year we’ve got to see some improvement. With Sims at QB this year I believe we did see better offensive production. On defense we’ve got to get better athletes. With that said I do hope the bashing will cease on the message boards. It can’t help recruiting at all.
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Dan Quinn was a real defensive guru too.... spare me
 
GoldenIsle said:
In 2015 & 2016 he was DC at UF. In the SEC his defense ranked 4th in 2015 giving up 18 points a game and 3rd in 2016 giving up 16 points a game … not bad. They advanced to the SEC championship game both years losing to Bama.
In 2011 - 2012 he was CO-DC at Mississippi State. In the SEC his defense ranked 4th in 2011 giving up 19 points a game and 8th in 2012 giving up 23 points a game. The 2011 team beat Wake Forest in the Music City Bowl and the 2012 team lost to Northwestern in the Gator Bowl.
In 2013-2014 he was DC at Mississippi State. In 2013 his defense ranked 5th in the SEC giving up 23 points a game and his 2014 defense ranked 8th giving up 21 points a game. The 2013 team beat Rice in the Liberty Bowl and the 2014 team got roasted by us in the Orange Bowl.
So I would assume he knows more about defense in his left pinky than we do. So I wonder how much, if any at all, does he help our current DC? That would be a good question to ask. We all know CPJ ran the offense, did that interfere with other HC duties like recruiting? I don’t know. Anyway, CGC is no dummy when it comes to coaching. I just know our defense is giving up a whole lot more than 20 points a game. I’ve got to believe most of that has to do with Jimmy & Joe’s. CGC recruits are just FR & SOPH this year. Well … where does that leave us? Before he was ever hired I would have answered that question by saying the new coach has to have four full recruiting classes taking over a program that ran the TO. But next year we’ve got to see some improvement. With Sims at QB this year I believe we did see better offensive production. On defense we’ve got to get better athletes. With that said I do hope the bashing will cease on the message boards. It can’t help recruiting at all.
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What doesn’t help recruiting is getting embarrassed on national tv. Stop trying to censor people or gtfo.
 
GTsapper said:
Dan Quinn was a real defensive guru too.... spare me
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That is true … being a good coordinator does not translate into being a good HC. So one of two things has to happen … CGC has to step in and help with the defense, or get a new DC. That is a discussion I think him and TStan need to have. I think it is a little too early for option 3 which is clean house.
 
GoldenIsle said:
That is true … being a good coordinator does not translate into being a good HC. So one of two things has to happen … CGC has to step in and help with the defense, or get a new DC. That is a discussion I think him and TStan need to have. I think it is a little too early for option 3 which is clean house.
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That was a discussion that should have been had at the end of last season at the latest. Anything similar at this point is just putting a bandaid on a bullet hole.
 
One more thing, yesterday when our DL lined up against ND’s OL, I turned to my wife and said that looks like boys lining up against grown men. A couple of our OL held there own against ND’s DL but there were two that absolutely got tossed around like rag dolls and about got our QB killed. Like I said … CGC recruits are only FR and SOPH.
 
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GoldenIsle said:
One more thing, yesterday when our DL lined up against ND’s OL, I turned to my wife and said that looks like boys lining up against grown men. A couple of our OL held there own against ND’s DL but there were two that absolutely got tossed around like rag dolls and about got our QB killed. Like I said … CGC recruits are only FR and SOPH.
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You’re right. I can’t believe CPJ keeps doing this to us.
 
Akinji07 said:
Yeah they show this on NBC but us bashing Collins will scare recruits. I’m tired of that narrative.
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If Collins and his staff could coach these kids worth a wet fart, I’d be concerned.

Right now, you could give our staff the ööööing Kansas City Chiefs and they’d barely scrape .500.
 
Akinji07 said:
Yeah they show this on NBC but us bashing Collins will scare recruits. I’m tired of that narrative.
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I figured we had at least two losing seasons staring us in the face. Like all of us I was hoping for close to a .500 season this year. But we are woefully lacking along the LOS and two recruiting classes won’t fix that. Right now CGC is playing with the hand he was dealt or playing FR and Soph, it has to be one or the other or a little of both.
 
GoldenIsle said:
I figured we had at least two losing seasons staring us in the face. Like all of us I was hoping for close to a .500 season this year. But we are woefully lacking along the LOS and two recruiting classes won’t fix that. Right now CGC is playing with the hand he was dealt or playing FR and Soph, it has to be one or the other or a little of both.
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He’s had 3 recruiting classes. That doesn’t explain the embarrassment we’re watching every Saturday. Quit blaming previous coach for Collins being unable to coach talent. They get worse every week. ööööing Toledo scored 28 points on this Notre Dame. Your Coach Clown Waffles scored 0. We have better players than Toledo at this point and if not then Collins isn’t the recruiter you think he is.
 
Akinji07 said:
He’s had 3 recruiting classes. That doesn’t explain the embarrassment we’re watching every Saturday. Quit blaming previous coach for Collins being unable to coach talent. They get worse every week. ööööing Toledo scored 28 points on this Notre Dame. Your Coach Clown Waffles scored 0. We have better players than Toledo at this point and if not then Collins isn’t the recruiter you think he is.
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Defense is so bad it might be the worst we’ve seen since GOL. That has nothing to do with sophomores and freshmen. He’s a terrible coach and any idiot can see that. We are playing worse defensively then we ever had in the last three years with this clown. All of CPJs defensive coordinators had better showings then this turd.
 
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