So…Can CGC Coach? Here Are Some Facts…

GoldenIsle said:
I figured we had at least two losing seasons staring us in the face. Like all of us I was hoping for close to a .500 season this year. But we are woefully lacking along the LOS and two recruiting classes won’t fix that. Right now CGC is playing with the hand he was dealt or playing FR and Soph, it has to be one or the other or a little of both.
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Im an expert at not being an expert but IMO it would stand to reason that if a team has guys on their O-line that are actually 5 and 6 yr players, then they’d have the experience to play much better against experienced opponents.
 
GoldenIsle said:
I hope I get to see Tech rise again, I ain’t no spring chicken. A couple of times I thought we had turned the corner and was getting ready to make an extended run of winning but then the coaches left. First it was Ross and then Fridge and O’Leary. As a boy I was around for the last several years of Dodd, it has been hard to watch the program go though the dry spells we have experienced.
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GoldenIsle, I know how you feel. My Daddy started taking me to Tech games in the late 1950s. My first football hero was Billy Lothridge. I remember seeing Coach Dodd walk on the field. Dress hat, sunglasses, white shirt, gold tie, blue blazer, black belt, gray pants, white socks, football shoes. It looked like his feet never touched the ground. He floated across the field. When you looked at him, you knew you were looking face to face with Georgia Tech. Everybody knew he embodied the school they loved. People wore white buttons with gold writing that simply said, "I like Tech."

There have been other great Tech men, too. I remember when there was a waiting list to get season tickets. I just want Tech to be competitive and respected again. I want my children and grandchildren to get to feel the same way about Tech football that I did back then. We rarely had the best talent, but we had good enough talent that, when combined with the best coaching, gave us a very good team. I never remember anybody thinking Tech football was a joke. The present situation is sad.

I feel sorry for our present coaches. They tried and failed. I've done that myself plenty of times. I hope they have success wherever they go. There are some on this coaching staff that might even be able to be successful here. But not with Coach Collins. I'd be willing to part company with him and let the other coaches put their names in a hat and let somebody draw a name out of the hat and let that guy be our head coach for the Georgia game. I'd like to see that done tonight. That would make me excited about Saturday. I know it would be a big improvement.

This is the first year in my life that I have not been excited about the Georgia game. I dread it. Thinking about it makes me sick. This has quit being funny. We play terrible and, evidently, nobody is going to do anything about it. And Georgia is smart. They will beat us by two or three scores, but they won't run up the score this year. They want us to keep Collins, like I wanted them to keep Johnny Griffith.

Well, a lot of people think I'm living in the past. But, I'm not. I just want my grandchildren to experience the same feeling about Tech football that I did. And I know that will never, ever happen as long as Collins is at Tech. Never.

To Hell With Georgia! We will beat them again when we get a good football coach.
 
CiraldoForever said:
GoldenIsle, I know how you feel. My Daddy started taking me to Tech games in the late 1950s. My first football hero was Billy Lothridge. I remember seeing Coach Dodd walk on the field. Dress hat, sunglasses, white shirt, gold tie, blue blazer, black belt, gray pants, white socks, football shoes. It looked like his feet never touched the ground. He floated across the field. When you looked at him, you knew you were looking face to face with Georgia Tech. Everybody knew he embodied the school they loved. People wore white buttons with gold writing that simply said, "I like Tech."

There have been other great Tech men, too. I remember when there was a waiting list to get season tickets. I just want Tech to be competitive and respected again. I want my children and grandchildren to get to feel the same way about Tech football that I did back then. We rarely had the best talent, but we had good enough talent that, when combined with the best coaching, gave us a very good team. I never remember anybody thinking Tech football was a joke. The present situation is sad.

I feel sorry for our present coaches. They tried and failed. I've done that myself plenty of times. I hope they have success wherever they go. There are some on this coaching staff that might even be able to be successful here. But not with Coach Collins. I'd be willing to part company with him and let the other coaches put their names in a hat and let somebody draw a name out of the hat and let that guy be our head coach for the Georgia game. I'd like to see that done tonight. That would make me excited about Saturday. I know it would be a big improvement.

This is the first year in my life that I have not been excited about the Georgia game. I dread it. Thinking about it makes me sick. This has quit being funny. We play terrible and, evidently, nobody is going to do anything about it. And Georgia is smart. They will beat us by two or three scores, but they won't run up the score this year. They want us to keep Collins, like I wanted them to keep Johnny Griffith.

Well, a lot of people think I'm living in the past. But, I'm not. I just want my grandchildren to experience the same feeling about Tech football that I did. And I know that will never, ever happen as long as Collins is at Tech. Never.

To Hell With Georgia! We will beat them again when we get a good football coach.
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Collins is the reincarnation of UGA's Johnny Griffith, who was considered an excellent recruiter but was a very bad coach. Between the UGA fans and the current Board of Regents (mostly Dwag alumni and supporters), they are hoping that GT keeps Collins as our Head Coach. I have been following GT since 1958 when my uncle took me to my very first college football game at BDS. I loved them then and still love the Yellow Jackets! I thought our AD's had learned their lessons on these ridiculous contracts that are given to Head Coaches that have no coaching abilities, what-so-ever, but I guess not, Huh? I used to be at BDS every Saturday sitting in the Lower West on the 50 yard line, pulling for the Yellow Jackets, I have seen some mighty good wins at BDS and I have seen some very unpleasant losses too. Even went on the road to many games too. Contributed to the AT Fund through my business for many years. Collins was a bad hire, he had very little experience as a Head Coach, had he taken the time to do a thorough search and sought out advice from others, I believe our AD could have made a much better Head Coaching hire here at GT. Like CiraldoForever, my days of pulling for the Old Gold & White are drawing to a close........THWG!!!
 
GoldenIsle...you are an optimist. Obviously you live on St Simons and that makes you more cheerful than those of us who fight potholes and Fast and Furious wannabes on 285 everyday. I lived down there for 18 years, so I know.
 
Allen Koholic said:
I’m 2017, Temple lost their homecoming game to a terrible UConn team. In 2018, they lost to ööööing Villanova.

In 2019, Georgia Tech lost to the ööööing Citadel. Followed by a total limp dick effort against Temple. Last year, we were the only team Syracuse beat, which is ööööing embarrassing. This year, we lost to Northern Illinois University, a school I couldn’t find even though it’s in their goddamned name.

So no, Geoff Collins cannot coach. He has a history of his team losing to teams they should easily beat. Every single season as a head coach, his teams lose a game that is inexcusable.
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His Temple recruits are now Jrs and Srs. How is that working out for Temple ?
 
Coach Collins owns the worst loss overall, worst shutout on the road and worst shutout at home.. triple threat! Throw that man some more money already! Georgia Tech’s worst losses since 1970 (per @ESPNStatsInfo)

73-7 vs Clemson, 2020
55-0 vs ND, 2021
69-14 vs ND, 1977
51-0 vs FSU, 1993
49-3 vs FSU, 1996
45-0 vs VT, 2019
 
GTFLETCH said:
Coach Collins owns the worst loss overall, worst shutout on the road and worst shutout at home.. triple threat! Throw that man some more money already! Georgia Tech’s worst losses since 1970 (per @ESPNStatsInfo)

73-7 vs Clemson, 2020
55-0 vs ND, 2021
69-14 vs ND, 1977
51-0 vs FSU, 1993
49-3 vs FSU, 1996
45-0 vs VT, 2019
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wasn’t there a 52-7 in there somewhere? that was worse than 45-0 imo.
 
Well … after reading the post on Stingtalk and The Hive I have to agree a change needs to be made. I’m afraid that if CGC comes back season tickets sales will plummet. He may actually need more time to righten the ship but with the hapless performance of the team he has totally loss the fanbase. TStan better make a move.
 
CiraldoForever said:
GoldenIsle, I know how you feel. My Daddy started taking me to Tech games in the late 1950s. My first football hero was Billy Lothridge. I remember seeing Coach Dodd walk on the field. Dress hat, sunglasses, white shirt, gold tie, blue blazer, black belt, gray pants, white socks, football shoes. It looked like his feet never touched the ground. He floated across the field. When you looked at him, you knew you were looking face to face with Georgia Tech. Everybody knew he embodied the school they loved. People wore white buttons with gold writing that simply said, "I like Tech."

There have been other great Tech men, too. I remember when there was a waiting list to get season tickets. I just want Tech to be competitive and respected again. I want my children and grandchildren to get to feel the same way about Tech football that I did back then. We rarely had the best talent, but we had good enough talent that, when combined with the best coaching, gave us a very good team. I never remember anybody thinking Tech football was a joke. The present situation is sad.

I feel sorry for our present coaches. They tried and failed. I've done that myself plenty of times. I hope they have success wherever they go. There are some on this coaching staff that might even be able to be successful here. But not with Coach Collins. I'd be willing to part company with him and let the other coaches put their names in a hat and let somebody draw a name out of the hat and let that guy be our head coach for the Georgia game. I'd like to see that done tonight. That would make me excited about Saturday. I know it would be a big improvement.

This is the first year in my life that I have not been excited about the Georgia game. I dread it. Thinking about it makes me sick. This has quit being funny. We play terrible and, evidently, nobody is going to do anything about it. And Georgia is smart. They will beat us by two or three scores, but they won't run up the score this year. They want us to keep Collins, like I wanted them to keep Johnny Griffith.

Well, a lot of people think I'm living in the past. But, I'm not. I just want my grandchildren to experience the same feeling about Tech football that I did. And I know that will never, ever happen as long as Collins is at Tech. Never.

To Hell With Georgia! We will beat them again when we get a good football coach.
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Interesting idea.

People I respect say we cant afford to fire Collins. Critics shoot back that we cant afford not to.

I dont know who is right, tbh, but eitherway the takeaway is we are poor. People need to rcognize that.

There is only one delusional group, and that is the group that thinks we can fix this with a big name head coach. Thats simply not a realistic option.

There are three approaches that could work for a poor school. One is the Clemson Model of cheap HC and expensive assistants. Second is my suggestion of hiring a ööööload of consultants and hire coaches that are recruiters. A poor man's Alabama. Third is to find the best lower division staff you can find and hire the whole staff including the secretaries.

The problem with one is it is an arms race we cant win and the model invites turmoil when assistants are poached for HC jobs. The problem with 3 is that sometimes coaches cant step up to the bigs. Thats not to say #2 is the best option, I would be happy with any of them.

All I know doesnt work is a high paid HC with a staff full of recruiters and few consultants.
 
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