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Make it an 8 team playoff. If it means Alabama has to play one more game so one more chance for them to screw up, it's worth it.
 
JOJATK said:
Back when the playoff was first being discussed there was this huge fear that it would diminish the importance of individual games during the year. The rationale was also thrown out there that no longer would every single week matter. But I don't think that fear has come true. In fact I think the opposite has happened. Right now every single week matters for MORE teams later in the season. How important was the Michigan loss at Iowa? Or Penn State's loss to Pitt? Those were HUGE games. I feel like every week still mattered and the number of teams for whom it mattered expanded. For sure later in the season the number dwindled but going into the conference championships there were still 7 or 8 teams that thought they had a reason to think they might have a shot. That's instead of somewhere between 2 to 4 teams as we had before the playoff.

I don't think teams resting their starters would be a problem, either. I think few teams would do that unless they could afford the loss and rarely can a team afford it. Could it happen? Of course. But I don't think you'd ever see a team rest a bunch of starters.

I have no problem staying with 4 teams or moving to 8 teams. If we stay with 4 teams I don't know how you solve the problem of Ohio State sitting at home risking nothing while Clemson, 'Bama, and UW had to play a game. On the other hand I think OSU is one of the 4 best teams in the country. So I'm conflicted. I would like to see every conference either be forced to have a championship game or NO championship game. I will say that the one thing that makes me NOT want an 8 team playoff is because Emmert wants it. I can't stand agreeing with him in any way ;)
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Conference games will be higher importance. OOC games will be like bowl games. Which means teams can schedule better opponents rather than scheduling teams they think they can beat. So I think overall quality will go up.
 
Nixon_Corral said:
That leaves room for one OOC game. Which honestly is fine with me if we keep Georgia. 11 ACC games + UGA would be entertaining, for sure. But I don't see any way that happens anytime soon. Would require booting members from the ACC, SEC, etc. No clean way to do that.
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We could very cleanly boot Wake Forest. So clean.
 
16 team conference, 8 team division, 7 intradivision games, 2 interdivision games, 2 OOC games, no FCS, 1 conference championship, 1 quarterfinal, 1 semifinal, 1 final. Why is this so hard?
 
Your OOC strength determines your conference strength. 16 teams plays 2 OOC games. That's 32 games. Mandate that one of the OOC games have to be a P5. Compare the record to other conferences which determines where you conference ranks in the playoffs. It also makes OOC games important again. Boom. Solved that too. Anything else?
 
Akinji07 said:
Your OOC strength determines your conference strength. 16 teams plays 2 OOC games. That's 32 games. Mandate that one of the OOC games have to be a P5. Compare the record to other conferences which determines where you conference ranks in the playoffs. It also makes OOC games important again. Boom. Solved that too. Anything else?
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No Akinji, you messed up. You can't have 5 conferences scheduling 1 P5 OOC game. 1 conference ends up with 8 P5 OOC games rather than 16.... hmmm.... give me a minute to think about this.
 
Akinji07 said:
No Akinji, you messed up. You can't have 5 conferences scheduling 1 P5 OOC game. 1 conference ends up with 8 P5 OOC games rather than 16.... hmmm.... give me a minute to think about this.
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Ok I got it. Either promote AAC or do a rotating P5 + 1 system, where 1 one of the G5 becomes plus one for that season so teams can schedule them like a P5 OOC matchup.

Also for the remainder 3 spots in the playoffs, give 2 to p5 and one to best of g5 if it has a better record than the remainder P5 and its conference did better OOC than any P5 conference.
 
Nixon_Corral said:
That leaves room for one OOC game. Which honestly is fine with me if we keep Georgia. 11 ACC games + UGA would be entertaining, for sure. But I don't see any way that happens anytime soon. Would require booting members from the ACC, SEC, etc. No clean way to do that.
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I worked up 8 12 team conferences a while back but don't think I still have it. Sure everyone would bitch and moan but if you go back to how the conferences were before expansion (or after 1st round of expansion) you aren't too far off. You then judiciously add teams in geographically to get to 12. There are more than 96 FBS schools to some would have to drop down (Buffalo, etc.)

Not complete, but you get the idea.

ACC had 9 - UNC, NCSt, Wake, Duke, VA, MD, Clemson, GT, FSU
SEC had 10 - Bama, Auburn, FL, GA, KY, LSU, Ole Miss, MSU, TN, Vandy
SWC had 9 - Ark, Baylor, Rice, Texas, TAMU, SMU, TCU, TTU, Houston
Big 10 had 10 - IL, MN, OSU, MI, MSU, IN, IA, Purdue, WI, Northwestern
Pac 8 had 8 - USC, UCLA, Cal, OSU, OR, Stanford, WSU, WA
Big 8 had 8 - OU, OSU, CO, KS, MO, NE, ISU, KSU
WAC had 10 - AZ, ASU, BYU, NM, WY, CO St, UTEP, SDSU, HI, Air Force
Big East had 9 - BC, UConn, Cuse, Pitt, Miami, WV, Rutgers, VT, Temple

That leaves 23 slots open. Moving a few teams around first would make sense (e.g. - Miami to ACC). Then fill slots from below.

Who's left (I'm sure I've missed a few) - Fresno St, Nevada, UNLV, Boise St, USCe, Penn St, ND, Army, Navy, Idaho, Cal State-Fullerton, UTSA, Texas St, Tulsa, SJSt, UNLV, Cinn, Louisville, USF, UCF, Utah, UTSt, Tulane, NTX, GASO, GASt, UMass, Buffalo, MTSU, Marshall, AppSt, S Bama, ULM, La Tech, Charlotte, Old Dominion, W KY, Akron
 
Akinji07 said:
16 team conference, 8 team division, 7 intradivision games, 2 interdivision games, 2 OOC games, no FCS, 1 conference championship, 1 quarterfinal, 1 semifinal, 1 final. Why is this so hard?
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Because my team had to play Bama cross-division and my division rival didn't.
 
The playoffs are stupid. But if we're going to continue them:

Top four conference champs in the country. (Notre Dame can eat a fish-flavored dick.)
 
Basketball has a 64 team tournament, why can't football? Wussies.
 
Anybody with vision predicted 8 teams eventually. It couldnt be more obvious it will happen. All we should be debating is when.

16 wont happen. We have that "round" already in the conference championships (with the caveat that not all losers would be absolutely eliminated from the 8).

I think they may have been waiting to see if the Big 12 collapsed or regressed to non P5 level. Isnt happening.
 
Thinking about how a sixteen team conference might work - I would prefer that they not use divisions, because then it's really like having two separate conferences whose champions play in a playoff. I would use a four year scheduling cycle. First, let the schools contract with one another so that each school has five teams they will play all four years. This will give plenty of room for natural rivalries to be scheduled. That leaves ten teams for each school that they don't play every year. In the next four year period they will play each of those teams twice. That's ten conference games. You play everyone in your conference at least half the time, and the five you choose all the time. For your conference championship game you pick the two teams with the best records. Head to head is a first tiebreaker. Rankings would be the second tiebreaker. I think ten conference games would be great for TV inventory. I could see us wanting to contract to play Clemson, FSU and Duke every year. If I were picking the other two I'd pick UVA and Miami. This would be fun. I actually wish we would do this now. Pick your five schools to play every year and then play half of the other eight each year for a nine game conference schedule. The teams with the best two records play for the title.
 
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