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With the 4 team format, you have to win your conference and be highly ranked. So a 6-win UCLA would only get in if another P5 conference champ had 5 wins.
 
What happens when the PAC XII goes undefeated OOC beating every other teams conference Champion then basically plays out even leaving one team standing at 6-6 as the champion. Are they suddenly not worthy? The point of including all conference champions is to remove the subjectivity thrown at each conference. We don't play enough interconference games to get a real sense of which is the best.
 
My vision is a 16-team playoff that includes ALL conference champions. You shorten the season to 11 games and eliminate FCS scheduling.

I have another vision of 8 regional 10 team "conferences" with upper and lower divisions who are relegated and promoted based on season success. Then you have 2 8-team playoffs from those.

You would play 9 conference games and have 2 OOC games of your choice.
 
The inherent problem with this system is the "extra" money. All P5 conferences have contracts with bowl games and those conferences normally have a equal division of that total bowl money. Example: Virginia will still get money from the conference because all the teams that did go to bowl games. It helps keep teams/schools even across the conference. This extends into the CFP, where these bowl games pay out even more. Think $20M or at least $1M per school in conference. When you add an "at large" bid you create the opportunity for "extra" money or a potential $1M that was not there before or could not be counted on. While Alabama and uga will just throw it on the pile of their Scrooge McDuck money bin. GT would be like "Oh dear God, yes please have the ACC make it." This is exactly what happened with the BCS, The SEC got significantly more 'at large' bids (something like 7 or 8 times had 2 teams in the BCS bowls). This goes back into the whole facilities, coach's pay, recruiting. Hard to over come that.
 
The strain on FCS athletic programs would be significant when they aren't getting guarantees from FBS programs anymore. Always something to consider.
 
Don't have a football program or spend within your means. I fail to see the problem.
 
There are issues all over the place with this. This is about money, and more money. This isn't the NFL. We all know the NCAA doesn't give two shits about the schools or the student athletes they were designed to serve. The problem with going down this road is it further weakens the argument that student athletes should not get paid. Go to an 8 team playoff and we are that much closer to paying the players. Once that happens, you can flush competitive college athletics down the toilet for good.
 
BarrelORum said:
There are issues all over the place with this. This is about money, and more money. This isn't the NFL. We all know the NCAA doesn't give two öööös about the schools or the student athletes they were designed to serve. The problem with going down this road is it further weakens the argument that student athletes should not get paid. Go to an 8 team playoff and we are that much closer to paying the players. Once that happens, you can flush competitive college athletics down the toilet for good.
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IMO paying the players is what's going to save college athletics. The way they get life-changing injuries and no financial gain to show for it until (if) they make it to the pros makes it tantamount to modern indentured servitude. The government will get involved eventually because voters will demand it. It's only going to get worse, and the solution is either to take the money out (make the NCAA donate its profits to a trust funding scholarships), or to pay the people providing the product. The former is never going to happen. The latter conceivably could. I know paying the players makes it look like only the Alabamas and Ohio States of the world will ever win anything, but look at what our system does now. TCU was a world-beater in 2014 and got 4D-logicked out of the playoff for Ohio State because revenue. We're already there.
 
College athletics be damned. If it's not compatible with free enterprise, it deserves to die. The NCAA and the major networks are a cartel of thieves and slavers. If they aren't employees, then let the students profit from their own names and likenesses on the free market as any other person in the country can do. If they are employees, pay them, and let them have the protections under law to which all employees are entitled. There is no ground for consideration of anything else.
 
A question for the 8-team playoff proponents with auto-bids for conference champions.

What's your strategy if GT has locked up the ACC Coastal and is 8-3 or 9-2 going into the UGA game? You've got no chance for an at-large bid, but you can win it all by winning - other than COFH - all of your remaining games. Do you rest the starters?
 
LagrangeJacket said:
A question for the 8-team playoff proponents with auto-bids for conference champions.

What's your strategy if GT has locked up the ACC Coastal and is 8-3 or 9-2 going into the UGA game? You've got no chance for an at-large bid, but you can win it all by winning - other than COFH - all of your remaining games. Do you rest the starters?
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No lol, you pound UGA until they beg for death, then you make FSU fans cry like somebody threw their dog in a woodchipper in front of them in the ACCCG, then you win the national championship.
 
LagrangeJacket said:
A question for the 8-team playoff proponents with auto-bids for conference champions.

What's your strategy if GT has locked up the ACC Coastal and is 8-3 or 9-2 going into the UGA game? You've got no chance for an at-large bid, but you can win it all by winning - other than COFH - all of your remaining games. Do you rest the starters?
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You still have to worry about seeding.
 
LagrangeJacket said:
A question for the 8-team playoff proponents with auto-bids for conference champions.

What's your strategy if GT has locked up the ACC Coastal and is 8-3 or 9-2 going into the UGA game? You've got no chance for an at-large bid, but you can win it all by winning - other than COFH - all of your remaining games. Do you rest the starters?
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This is why the 4-team format is better. You have to win your conference championship to be eligible, and you have to win your OoC games (especially late season games) to not be the one P5 who gets left out. Or two P5's, should an independent make top 4. It makes every game matter, but especially division games and conference championships.
 
I'm a virgin at this new stingtalk stuff.....what does it say about me if I make a post that gets big cried, liked, and disliked? Is this some inception shit?
 
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