The Talent Differential

ScionOfSouthland said:
I agree that last night was bad, but disagree that it was nothing new. CPJ's offense used to feel like a machine. More and more, opposing DCs are "getting it". Venables has got it as evidenced by last year and this year's performance. I don't expect that will change,
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You just keep going..
Nobody is suddenly "getting it"
Everyone knows already that if you have 4 beast OL and two decent LB then you can stuff it

Each time some moron starts to spout off how "the scheme is done "

Whatever, cry me a river

The scheme is done (pretty much any scheme you chose to run) when the line play is one-sided

Their talent on the line was far far superior than ours. Can you overcome that with coaching? Maybe a little, but ultimately its a physical game
 
BuzzCzar said:
You just keep going..
Nobody is suddenly "getting it"
Everyone knows already that if you have 4 beast OL and two decent LB then you can stuff it

Each time some moron starts to spout off how "the scheme is done "

Whatever, cry me a river
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More finger in ear comments from BuzzCzar
 
V is dialed in on CPJ right now. No doubt.

I think our move to bigger linemen has been a bust. They are too tall to play low and too heavy to pass block from the three point ass low stance.

I think we are moving back towards the 6'-6'3" linemen who come in at 260 and play at 280. Talented guys who don't have NFL measurables. Guys like Shaq.
 
I think there's some truth to both sides of the debate. Venables is a fantastic coach and has had great game plans against us, but that's not the whole picture. Clemson is clearly more talented than GT, and this has been obvious for years. Do y'all not remember 2015 and 2013? Last year was just as bad, we just managed to hit on a couple long passes when Clemson blew a coverage. Clemson's talent is now at Bowden-era FSU status, so our performance against them should also be expected to look like our performance against FSU in those days. Considering that we beat elite Clemson teams both of the previous two times they came to Atlanta, I don't think the overall performance is that bad. It's frustrating, though, because we are used to Clemson being our peer in the conference. Those days are gone.
 
ThisIsAtlanta said:
The one successful drive we did have was gutsy but even there was not a tremendous amount to build on. We got 25 yards in penalties that converted a fourth down and nullified an interception. That's on a 75 yard drive.
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Nullified an interception? What kind of beta BS is that?

The dude pushed off with both hands. I say he prevented a touchdown, but of course we went on and scored anyway so no big deal.
 
coit said:
Nullified an interception? What kind of beta BS is that?

The dude pushed off with both hands. I say he prevented a touchdown, but of course we went on and scored anyway so no big deal.
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That was going to be an incompletion more likely than not. The ball was outside and our receiver was facing in. That's why the shove resulted in an int. We scored thanks in part to the first down that penalty gave us in the red zone.

The last three plays of the drive were clean, so we can build on those, but it's like I said. Not a lot to build on.
 
Talent gap was ridiculous last night. We looked D2 compared to Clemson. Our coach got his job based on his supposed offensive genius, but we have no answers when we are out-athleted by that much. Not sure what the answer is to this problem. We aren't just going to start recruiting better tomorrow. There are major flaws in the master plan that may just persist under the current regime.
 
ThisIsAtlanta said:
The one successful drive we did have was gutsy but even there was not a tremendous amount to build on. We got 25 yards in penalties that converted a fourth down and nullified an interception. That's on a 75 yard drive.
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And saved us from being shut out at Grant Field for the first time since 1957
 
JacketFan77 said:
Shamire is a bust. I was really pulling for the kid, but he's not a full game lineman. I was impressed with his replacement.

These kinds of games can either demoralize your team or show you something to build on. I hope the guys build on that 4th quarter drive. No glitz, no glamor, just a grinding it out drive. I don't know if that was possible in the first half, but I've always felt that we need to always open with that kind of strategy to wear down opposing defenses and open up other attacks in the later stage of the game.
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I hate to think that Shamire is a bust. But you might be right. He is just too slow and doesn't seem to really want to play. But he is not the only one. The offensive line is not very good and it is hard to tell if it is due to a lack of talent, or coaching or maybe both. Pretty sad that this is an ongoing issue for a team that is said to live and die by running the football.
 
JRJacket said:
Was about to post the same. There's been a few references to us not having Days / Laskey back there this year... Marshall and Mills are more talented than both days and laskey. The difference is NO SHAQ MASON.

His impact on that team is increasingly more apparent.
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Mills is a hoss. He grits out some seriously tough yards. I wish we could get him more 2014 sized holes to run through.
 
JRJacket said:
Was about to post the same. There's been a few references to us not having Days / Laskey back there this year... Marshall and Mills are more talented than both days and laskey. The difference is NO SHAQ MASON.

His impact on that team is increasingly more apparent.
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JRJacket said:
Was about to post the same. There's been a few references to us not having Days / Laskey back there this year... Marshall and Mills are more talented than both days and laskey. The difference is NO SHAQ MASON.

His impact on that team is increasingly more apparent.
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You guys act like Shaq blocked 4 guys at once. BB's were studs in 2014. Laskey in limited play rushed for over 2000 career yards in what I can tell 13 career starts. Everyone though JT was the key that year and no doubt he had a great year. What's more apparent is the talent that was around him at the skilled positions that just "made plays" when we need them too.
 
ElCidBUZZingFAN said:
As far as CPJ goes, I'm getting pretty tired of the excuse/coach speak of blown assignments by the OL. Either simplify the assignments - like you openly criticized your DCs in the past - or be that masterful tactician that everyone lays on you and make adjustments to your scheme. Because 7 out of 8 years claiming the system is sound but the guys upfront struggle making their assignments is garbage coaching.
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Agreed. If those idiots at Ga Southern were bright enough to figure out how to play in this offense, our athletes should know how to as well. And if not, figure out an offensive set of plays they CAN run.
 
EffinDane said:
Clemson's coaches have gotten way, way, way better since CPJ started.
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Venebles is a damn good coach. Better than Kirby Smart, I can tell you that...

Maybe he'll ditch for LSU.

I can tell you one thing, if I was an AD, and hiring a coordinator for a HC position, I'd damn sure target Clemson coordinators before Bama coordinators. In the Clemson case, you know for sure that any success they're having on the field is not due to the strategic acumen of the head coach. That was always a question with Smart. There's no question about that from Venebles.
 
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NEJacket1 said:
You guys act like Shaq blocked 4 guys at once. BB's were studs in 2014. Laskey in limited play rushed for over 2000 career yards in what I can tell 13 career starts. Everyone though JT was the key that year and no doubt he had a great year. What's more apparent is the talent that was around him at the skilled positions that just "made plays" when we need them too.
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Shaq was responsible for blocking 4 guys at once. Sewak relies on line communication to account for pre-snap defensive shifts and Shaq is the only one that has been able to effectively do it. Linemen were on the record last year lamenting how much the missed his leadership on the line.
 
Same ööööing bullshit different year. When are we going to close the gap? If this cuck can't do it then bring in someone different. UGAY runs the most conservative prostyle pussy shit down our dick and we have no answers. This is just pisspoor. Pisspoor.
 
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