This makes me sick. It sounds like UGA football has

BigDanT

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Tech once had a school of commerce. IIRC, the BOR took that away from Tech and created Georgia State. Tech had a satellite campus with an Engineering Technology school. The BOR took that away and created Southern Tech. Almost every time Tech has tried to expand its offerings, the BOR had other plans.

I think @gtphd has a complete historical rundown of how the BOR has treated Tech ever since their creation of “a school for blacksmiths” in the suburbs of post war Atlanta.
Did parts of the institution let them do it?

Back about 5-6 years ago when lurking on the site there were contentions that hosted ideas akin to “but it will devalue my degree” and the like. Totally reasonable as a non alumni with no stake. I haven’t heard that argument on this board in a long time.
 

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Also, if techs program was in a great place as far as stability at the moment, I feel this is exactly the type of player Collins could have sold on the institute.

Edit: what the paper lies about is this was more about football than the degree. Calvin would have agreed.
 

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I feel this is exactly the type of player Collins could have sold on the institute.
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Did I miss something? Has Collins been fired? I was hoping he could improve our recruiting. See what happens if you leave to go have a few pops, it all changes.
 

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Did I miss something? Has Collins been fired? I was hoping he could improve our recruiting. See what happens if you leave to go have a few pops, it all changes.
No I mean I think he could def have a shot with this type of player in the future. But this was the class of 2018. I’m speaking in terms of moving forward.
 

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No I mean I think he could def have a shot with this type of player in the future. But this was the class of 2018. I’m speaking in terms of moving forward.
Just having fun. God I hope he can get some top rated players. If not we’re in serious trouble.
 

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1) That isn’t anything like the rigor of Tech. UGA’s program is a joke and it is embarrassing as a taxpayer that they push it on players and other students.

2) GT does have players that major in engineering on the current roster. Not sure why you think UGA has more but I don’t know the specific number.

3) I hope everyone can see the lie that the change by the BOR had nothing to do with football. That article basically admits it.
 

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The entire reason they added an engineering program was because they didn't land Calvin Johnson. And the BOR let them do it.

Don't you guys get it yet? Our school intentionally ties one hand behind it's back, and then our rival ties the other hand and both legs. A new coach doesn't fix this. Go private or quit football.
 

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No one who knows what an engineer is believes a word of this nonsense.

And the rest of the the readership of the AJC already believed it so, really, this is a non-event/non-story.
 

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STEM is a hot area in academics right now. I don't know what UGA has done recently to bolster their Engineering School; but I know that Auburn and Alabama have put millions of dollars into facilities for Engineering. Georgia Tech still has definite advantage as far as academic rankings and national recognition; but the programs we hope to recruit against are not slacking off either. If you haven't visited those programs in recent years it is easy to dismiss this post; but if you have visited them in the past few years you know that the visual impression they would leave on a recruit wanting to major in engineering is impressive. Again GT has an edge if you focus on academic rankings; but that edge aside from rankings isn't near as distinct as it may have been 20 years ago; and if a recruit wants that University experience with big time football atmosphere while getting an engineering degree, the schools we want to compete against for recruits are very formidable.
 

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STEM is a hot area in academics right now. I don't know what UGA has done recently to bolster their Engineering School; but I know that Auburn and Alabama have put millions of dollars into facilities for Engineering. Georgia Tech still has definite advantage as far as academic rankings and national recognition; but the programs we hope to recruit against are not slacking off either. If you haven't visited those programs in recent years it is easy to dismiss this post; but if you have visited them in the past few years you know that the visual impression they would leave on a recruit wanting to major in engineering is impressive. Again GT has an edge if you focus on academic rankings; but that edge aside from rankings isn't near as distinct as it may have been 20 years ago; and if a recruit wants that University experience with big time football atmosphere while getting an engineering degree, the schools we want to compete against for recruits are very formidable.
Auburn has a good engineering program. Southern Tech has a good engineering program. I don't look down at others. Tech is special but good engineering can take places at other places. Both of those programs have been around a long time with a lot of sweat equity. That is why they are good programs. UGA's program isn't like those. It is basically a limited STEM degree that they label as engineering without the teaching of programs like Auburn/GT.
 

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“The brands are different, that’s all,” Gattie said. “Our engineers compete with their engineers for jobs."
Michael Adams, the president of Georgia at the time, pitched an engineering program to the Board of Regents by stating "There are many companies in rural Georgia who need engineers but can't afford Georgia Tech engineers. They turn to Clemson, South Carolina, Alabama, Auburn, and Florida engineers to fill these needs."

So literally, he's saying that he needs to produce low-wage engineers for the Sub-$80k "engineering positions" in rural areas (note: these positions actually need engineering technologists).

This is nothing more than the East Cobb moms proclaiming "Well UGA is more difficult to get into than Tech these days" after their precious son gets declined from GT.
 

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Tech once had a school of commerce. IIRC, the BOR took that away from Tech and created Georgia State. Tech had a satellite campus with an Engineering Technology school. The BOR took that away and created Southern Tech. Almost every time Tech has tried to expand its offerings, the BOR had other plans.

I think @gtphd has a complete historical rundown of how the BOR has treated Tech ever since their creation of “a school for blacksmiths” in the suburbs of post war Atlanta.
Don't get me started. Georgia needs to split into three separate university systems. The communist approach of central control stifles innovation and hurts the State.
 

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Majoring in engineering in Athens is a far cry from majoring in engineering between North Avenue and Tenth Street. The demand for hiring a Dawg football player with a Dawg engineering degree can’t be too high.
Exactly correct. The fact remains that their will always be "functional" and "operational" engineering needs, regardless of the employer. The field is full of "worker-bees" just like any other and UGA's school is fine to produce them.

They aren't generational talents and thinkers like Tech graduates and the paper admits as much:

You’ll not hear UGA making any bold pronouncements about overtaking Georgia Tech as engineering school.
They even mention their graduates don't 80k.
If your upset with this, politely take a step back and kill yourself
 

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Exactly correct. The fact remains that their will always be "functional" and "operational" engineering needs, regardless of the employer. The field is full of "worker-bees" just like any other and UGA's school is fine to produce them.
That's why Georgia needs "Engineering Technology" degrees. Texas figured that out decades ago.
 
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