To all the "proud Reggie Ball apologists" from last season

Hide that #1 jersey deep in a dark closet somewhere...never to be used again. Gailey might just issue it again.
 
If you're going to criticize someone you should at least get your story straight. Reggie did not flunk out of school for one thing. There was an issue in a class that made him ineligible for the bowl game, but it was eventually cleared up and it appears he never should have missed the game.
 
thwg said:
oh what could have been.
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I'll claim myself as an "apologist" but I do think Bennett should've gotten more snaps because it's always important to have a backup with game experience. I appreciate the good things that Reggie brought to the table and certainly don't feel the need to crap on him now for "what could have been". We'll never know. Hopefully, we can all move forward (like the players on the current team seem to have) and enjoy some *potential* better times ahead. Like the Falcons and Matt Schaub, Bennett is still a rather untested commodity. He's had 2 good games against poor opposition (D00k and a poor West VA defense) and a good spring game.
 
GT65_UGA89 said:
The Reggie Ball days are over and done at GT. I was never a fan of his, from a QB perspective or from a person perspective, but I definitely pulled for him each and every Saturday (and Thursday nights as well).

Taylor Bennett will take over this fall. I personally would have liked to have seen more of him prior to the Gator Bowl and don't understand why we didn't, particularly late in the season. If RB was hurt in the Maryland game (I'm not buying that his injury affected his play that much, he was just not a good college QB) then TB should have been an option earlier than the last game of the season.

But you know what, that is in the past and the future is ahead of us starting at South Bend this fall.
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You're not buying the injury excuse? Did you see how he ran in against Virginia, Virginia Tech and in the first half of Maryland vs. how he ran in the Clemson "game" and the rest? He looked like a world beater in the early season and looked like a crappy runner later. Most of his highlight plays from his freshman season and onward with the draw came as a result of his shiftiness and his ability to make people miss. He just didn't have that ability after the Maryland game and as the season wore on. Give the guy a break. I hope that he feels welcome and remains part of the GT family for a long time, as I hope for everyone with ties to GT.

PS - Reggie McNeal was a worse BCS conference 4 year starter... Reggie Ball wasn't even the worst Reggie!
 
gtGreg768b said:
PS - Reggie McNeal was a worse BCS conference 4 year starter... Reggie Ball wasn't even the worst Reggie!
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:laugher::laugher::laugher:

You have to be kidding. First of all Reggie McNeal was not a four year starter, unless starting one game as a freshman makes you a four-year starter, but, notwithstanding that look at the statistical comparisons:

Completion Percentage:
McNeal - .546
Ball - .486

TD/INT:
McNeal - 44/23 = 1.91
Ball - 57/55 = 1.04

Efficiency:
McNeal -133.1
Ball - 104.4

Yards per Carry:
McNeal - 4.6
Ball - 2.9

Rushing TDs:
McNeal - 15
Ball - 11
 
gtGreg768b said:
You're not buying the injury excuse? ...Give the guy a break.
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I'm not saying he wasn't injured. I'm saying that he wasn't a good QB when he was healthy. I watched him play for four years, and he certainly had his moments. I'll remember RB the QB as a good runner, nothing special, and a terrible passer.

I think back to how many times I watched him miss open receivers or simply heave the ball up for grabs. Why do you think CJ had such an amazing highlights package during his career at GT? He was hauling in passes thrown behind him, too high, balls thrown up-for-grabs, etc.

No, I won't give the guy a break.
 
ncjacket said:
If you're going to criticize someone you should at least get your story straight. Reggie did not flunk out of school for one thing. There was an issue in a class that made him ineligible for the bowl game, but it was eventually cleared up and it appears he never should have missed the game.
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Yes, I was in that class, Database Management with Peng Huang. The "issue" was that he didn't show up for a single class. He was originally randomly selected to be in my group, but then the teacher told me he found another one. He was never seen in class.
 
gt65, I think you would actually have to admit that early on this past year Reggie was a pretty good QB based on most indicators. Wins, completion %, TD-Int, total yards, rushing yards. The problem was when he was injured he could no longer run by design that he's not a good enough passer to be effective when the opposition knows where he's going to be. The fault with our offensive coaches (Nix, Gailey) was their inability to realize that as a drop back passer, Reggie was just bad. As a mobile QB who could run it 10-12 times a game, he could pass well enough to be a threat.
 
Actually the insinuation is that Reggie is a bad guy and still deserves the attack. The truth is that this was a Chan issue and Chan is definitely open to criticism, considering just how bad it was allowed to go.

There are plenty of football players that just aren't any good and find their way to the bench. We don't even talk about them and we certainly don't call them out for being bad. This case is different because the COACH blew it and ruined Tech's chances of a championship and Orange Bowl. If you must attack, attack the coach and leave Reggie alone.
 
I admit.


I was a Reggie apologist.


I stood and defended him as best I could for as long as I could, as I try to do for every and all of our student athletes. Reggie vs UGA 4 was the straw that broke my back. I can't even look at a photo of him without cringing.

Reggie had a legitimate shot of going down as one of the better quarterbacks in Tech history, had he played slightly better in his final two games, stayed eligible, and beaten WV. As it stands, he is the Guy Falkes of Tech Football, and will remain so for all eternity.
 
midatlantech said:
This case is different because the COACH blew it and ruined Tech's chances of a championship and Orange Bowl. If you must attack, attack the coach and leave Reggie alone.
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IMO, the jury's still out on this charge. Chan didn't believe TB was ready (or capable) to take over. So far, Bennett is 0-1 in the post-RB era. He put up some great numbers in JAX for three quarters, but made some very poor decisions in the fourth quarter that could have won the game. It's only speculation that he would have done better against Wake and UGA. He's got to play very well for much longer before I start crapping on the coach.
 
ncjacket said:
gt65, I think you would actually have to admit that early on this past year Reggie was a pretty good QB based on most indicators.
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As I said he had his moments for sure, but no nc, I just never really saw RB as a good college QB. There were times when it seemed the potential was there, but he always seemed to take a step forward and one-and-a-half steps back.

I'll admit to not exactly liking the guy, and no I do not know him personally, I just grew weary of watching the way he conducted himself on the football field. Although I do know that some of his teammates have called him a leader on the field and a tough guy, so I will give him that. I wish the guy the best in his future endeavors.
 
clapper said:
IMO, the jury's still out on this charge. Chan didn't believe TB was ready (or capable) to take over. So far, Bennett is 0-1 in the post-RB era. He put up some great numbers in JAX for three quarters, but made some very poor decisions in the fourth quarter that could have won the game. It's only speculation that he would have done better against Wake and UGA. He's got to play very well for much longer before I start crapping on the coach.
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If Taylor was not ready then someone should have been. Blame it on bad recruiting or bad development, but the fact is we should have had a better quarterback than what we had. That's on the coach.
 
knoxjacket said:
If Taylor was not ready then someone should have been. Blame it on bad recruiting or bad development, but the fact is we should have had a better quarterback than what we had. That's on the coach.
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I can semi-agree with that. It isn't like we didn't have quarterbacks, though. For one reason or another, they didn't pan out and move past Ball. If you look back at it, the situation with upgrading QB talent didn't really take place until this past year with the three coming in now. Heck, Bennett wasn't exactly a high recruit.

But is that cause for blame? Gailey's program has evolved. They do address problems with a long term fix in mind. It just doesn't happen overnight. It happened with him stepping down as OC and finally bringing in a solid replacement. Recruiting was brought into this century, but we got Calvin even before that happened. And it's been done while under NCAA restriction without backsliding into losing seasons.

I guess it's just hard for me to cast blame like that after having endured Curry (Scherer) & Lewis. Sure, I'd like for this program to be further along, but I'd really rather put a solid base in place that allows us to compete, in conference and nationally, EVERY year. I see that happening.
 
What is the point of this crap of a thread?

This topic goes beyond dead horse. This horse is dead, buried, and has completely decomposed. Even the smell of it doesn't longer linger in the ground any longer. RB is no longer on the team and never will be again, so it's bringing up a dead horse that is in the past even. Let us drop this topic and all swear a blood oath to not reply to any attempt to bring it up again.
 
Reggie was Reggie, full of piss and vinegar but on the whole limited in what he could do on the field. When he got hurt and that took away his ability to run then he was clearly not the best QB on the team any longer. It was Chan and Patrick's fault for not getting him off the field.
 
ncjacket said:
gt65, I think you would actually have to admit that early on this past year Reggie was a pretty good QB based on most indicators. Wins, completion %, TD-Int, total yards, rushing yards. The problem was when he was injured he could no longer run by design that he's not a good enough passer to be effective when the opposition knows where he's going to be. The fault with our offensive coaches (Nix, Gailey) was their inability to realize that as a drop back passer, Reggie was just bad. As a mobile QB who could run it 10-12 times a game, he could pass well enough to be a threat.
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My big concern with the Reggie folks is not reggie but chan.If reggie was hurt as several folks bellieve,then why didnt TB or somebody get snaps as his backup.Reggie stayed four years without consistent passing stats but could run the ball.I dont think the qb draw is our best play from the qb position.Hope he gets a good job and prospers.
 
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