Transfer portal…

[GTLiebs]

Yes. The schools that hoard talent will not like this because it would allow less successful schools to flip their roster and entice more of the top's depth to transfer in for playing time, so I'd foresee them feigning indignance at the practice. We should not have to suffer clingers and bad kickers taking up a roster spot simply because of a stigma associated with releasing them early which is why I want open support/encouragement to come directly from the NCAA in some form

I feel like a lot of people were saying this was gonna happen with the portal. Right move or not, I feel like a lot of recruits and players don't mind riding pine at the top schools as much as we think they do.

 

[OptionJacket]

I laugh at all of you who are suddenly Rip Van Winkle and realizing the NCAA is corrupt. They’ve been corrupt for at least 52 years because I’m 52 years old and they have been protecting the big boys since the day I was born. I’ve been screaming about this my entire life. And it keeps going, just like it will now. The end is not near. Fans will freely continue to throw money at these programs because for many it is all they have. Cincy just made the Final Four and won’t be the last outsider to do so because they made a great hire, have zero academic standards, and care about being good. Plenty of schools fit that bill. Heck, how long until the University of Phoenix fields a team, gets on the gravy train, and starts dominating with those tough online courses.

Don’t worry, after another off season of transfers the media will start running stories of the down trodden players who gave up their scholarships and weren’t signed by anyone and now are working at the local gas station. Then politicians will start pimping for the microphones and many of you will applaud their “efforts” of reform. They’ll get the money they want from the normal kickbacks and nothing will ultimately get done. Just like the playoffs will expand in a few years by the same people today claiming they are fighting for the little guy. As a proponent of an expanded playoff I am glad they held off the 12 team format because it means these Alliances will have a few more years to extort and we’ll get a much bigger playoff or the SEC will add more teams and break away. Either way, the money is there for more meaningful games.

 

[donsue]

The days a college amateur sports is over and done with. It is indeed a sad day when a quality education to a great school like Georgia Tech means nothing to the majority of high school athletes nowadays. My love for amateur college sports began in 1958 when I saw my very first college football game at Grant Field, that day I became a Georgia Tech fan and have not wavered in my support for the Yellow Jackets. Universities and Colleges throughout the country make it too easy on the recruits now.

The Auburn 7-7 tie game? That was the year I was born, but Tommy Wells’ kick could have won it

 

[00Burdell]

I laugh at all of you who are suddenly Rip Van Winkle and realizing the NCAA is corrupt. They’ve been corrupt for at least 52 years because I’m 52 years old and they have been protecting the big boys since the day I was born. I’ve been screaming about this my entire life. And it keeps going, just like it will now. The end is not near. Fans will freely continue to throw money at these programs because for many it is all they have. Cincy just made the Final Four and won’t be the last outsider to do so because they made a great hire, have zero academic standards, and care about being good. Plenty of schools fit that bill. Heck, how long until the University of Phoenix fields a team, gets on the gravy train, and starts dominating with those tough online courses.

Don’t worry, after another off season of transfers the media will start running stories of the down trodden players who gave up their scholarships and weren’t signed by anyone and now are working at the local gas station. Then politicians will start pimping for the microphones and many of you will applaud their “efforts” of reform. They’ll get the money they want from the normal kickbacks and nothing will ultimately get done. Just like the playoffs will expand in a few years by the same people today claiming they are fighting for the little guy. As a proponent of an expanded playoff I am glad they held off the 12 team format because it means these Alliances will have a few more years to extort and we’ll get a much bigger playoff or the SEC will add more teams and break away. Either way, the money is there for more meaningful games.

Holy crap - who knew Hunter S. Thompson was a Tech fan.

 

[gtchief]

I feel like a lot of people were saying this was gonna happen with the portal. Right move or not, I feel like a lot of recruits and players don't mind riding pine at the top schools as much as we think they do.

Off the top of my head I believe we got players from Clemson, Alabama, Notre Dame, and Auburn just in this cycle, so I'm not sure what you mean. Maybe we have different perspectives.

 

[MoverofFridge2]

I think the flow will decrease but a significant number of these players overestimate their talent level.
If they are fortunate enough to land,they are locked in at the new school. Second time transfers who have to sit a year will have limited value especially with their five year clock ticking.

exactly..but what 19 year old kid knows what’s best for his future. Just my opinion, but they are chasing playing time or NIL money or both..most will never be picked up and then there out on their own for an education.

 

[MoverofFridge2]

People like Jahmyr Gibbs who end up playing for multiple colleges will end up killing cfb. I basically don’t care about him anymore even though he spent a couple seasons with us.

The one-and-done rule in CBB didn’t really turn me off but this transfer portal era stuff certainly does. How in the hell is a casual fan supposed to remember where big time players started out in college and transferred etc…? The NCAA has killed the game I used to be fanatical about.

another excellent Point. FANATICAL is key word. I loved this game. New Years Day, I did t watch the first game For the first time in my 59 years that I can remember.

 

[MoverofFridge2]

I want the NCAA to publicly encourage students and coaches to exercise the powers granted to them. Scholarships are yearly commitments and the practice of coaches not renewing them should be normalized and accepted as SOP just as students freely transferring.

AGREED. They don’t meet the expectations, then they are out looking for a place to play. Accountability can go along way in my opinion.

 

[00Burdell]

another excellent Point. FANATICAL is key word. I loved this game. New Years Day, I did t watch the first game For the first time in my 59 years that I can remember.

I didn’t watch a single post-season game. I recorded a couple but the outcome was not to my liking so i deleted them. First time since 1980.

Maybe I’ll get my mojo back this Fall.

 

[CarsonNewmanJacket]

We might have so little guys that it’s gonna turn into high school ball. Some of our studs are gonna play both sides, maybe even special teams too.

 

[GTRules]

Maybe it’s time to get rid of the athletic scholarship. Want to get paid to play? Start a minor league team.

Want to be a student? Pay up. Recruit for your teams from the list of freshman at your school.

 

[00Burdell]

If the Transfer Portal existed in 1989, we would have one less National Championship.

 

[midatlantech]

Here’s what you do:
1). Just like other professional leagues, When a free agent leaves and they are measured as a good one, the team losing that player gets an extra draft pick. Measurement is playing time, or projected draft pick or w247 ranking.

2).Final Four teams can not replace their players leaving.
3). Max recruiting number is 20/yr for Final Four and conference champions.
4). Max number of players actually seeing the field is 100 over a four year span.
Etc, etc

 

[The Wasp]

Has ruined the game of college football across this country. I realize this topic has been beaten to death, but I’m so f***** tired of seeing another player entering the portal. The NCAA is as or more corrupt than any organization in this country.
Don’t like your coach - enter the portal
Didn‘t get enough playing time - enter the portal
Team didn’t win enough - enter the portal.

The NCAA is to completely blame for all this bull$hit. There interest, in my opinion, is to create a system where there are about 6-8 power teams and to hell with the rest. And, btw, those 6-8 will be those that will bring huge fan bases to the playoff games where the most money can be made. I would bet my last dollar we have seen the last of the non power five schools, Cincy, make the four team playoff.

In my opinion, which really isn’t worth a damn, says you want to transfer, then your a$$ sits a year no questions asked. You have a hardship, your a$$ sits a year. I realize there are instances where a parent or close family member is sick and/or possibly passing away. If that’s the case, then that student athlete should spend his time looking out for his family and helping any way he can. Not using this excuse to transfer where he think he has a better chance to play/win. He can practice and go through all team related activities, but at the end of the day, his a$$ sits for a full year before he can play on Saturdays. This bull$hit is a joke and is ruining the game we all love.

Well stated Mover. I agree. The old system where coaches could restrict a player from transferring, yet coaches could leave at any time was too restrictive. This wild west has over corrected.

 

[covingtonjacket]

I don't blame the NCAA, they fended off this for a long time (lost year of eligibility for transfering and so forth.). If you want someone to blame, blame the players. Players have been demanding pay (NIL) for years. As for the portal, no one is making players go through it, they are leaping (in lots of cases blindly) into it. Blame the 'Me generation', some players have zero loyalty to a school [unlike us fans who remain with a school for life].

What is the advantage of this to the NCAA? Less than a dozen power teams, even if they have a million die hard fans each you are looking at low TV ratings in the future.

I think of it slightly differently. I blame the conferences, chiefly the SEC, but not them alone. Here's why:

The players see the millions of dollars flowing all around them and are incentivized to get a piece of the pie. The milliions of dollars are the problem. The money is why every game must be televised, which hurts the in-person gameday experience. It is why our spring game is scheduled for whatever time TV says it will be broadcast. The money is why there are multi-million dollar facilities unrelated to weight rooms, practice fields, etc. that are essentially baby-sitting buildings for players. The money is why the gaggers had a $9M recruiting budget last year. The money is why state laws are amended so reporters have delayed access to spending information by public institutions. The money is why 17yo kids who are good at a game now negotiate NIL contracts before even stepping foot on campus.

The conferences started the money train. Pursue the media contracts, distribute millions to the athletic departments of member schools. Once the money is flowing, the schools and other non-revenue sports depend on the money for more and more buildings and "upgrades". The conferences took a collegiate game and made it a semi-pro game (or maybe not so semi anymore?). The conferences do not even pretend to arrange themselves any longer based on geography or rivalry. It is blatantly about the dollars, not even hidden anymore. I do not know how to take the money out of the system (I'm sure it's not even be possible), but my only idea would be that all non-school direct revenue (i.e. other than merch and ticket sales and donations) go to the academic side of the school and not the AD. That would remove some of the monetization incentives.

Old man rant over. If we are going to have football though we have to play the game as it is, not as we want it to be.

 

[GT65_UGA89]

What’s happened when players have entered the transfer portal?

Where do players end up when they enter the transfer portal?

Player movement has becoming a defining feature of modern college football, but how does it work out for the athletes?

www.deseret.com

 

[jacket67]

I am guessing that some players still in the portal have had offers, but are gambling that spring attrition and injuries will increase their value by summer. Programs won’t know which positions they most need to recruit until then.

 

[wesleyd21]

How do you spend 9 million bucks on recruiting without giving money to players directly?

transportation must be a large % of the equation.

 

[ClubSeats]

Holy crap - who knew Hunter S. Thompson was a Tech fan.

 

[GT98]

I do not know how to take the money out of the system (I'm sure it's not even be possible), but my only idea would be that all non-school direct revenue (i.e. other than merch and ticket sales and donations) go to the academic side of the school and not the AD. That would remove some of the monetization incentives.

Old man rant over. If we are going to have football though we have to play the game as it is, not as we want it to be.

No way that the money leaves the system. The last part of your paragraph above is interesting.

As for playing the game as it is, I think more and more that the gap between those schools "committing" to the game as is and ponying up the money and those that either cannot or will not will continue to grow. The question is when the schools in the latter group decide to form their own division for collegiate athletics for competition or is it a byproduct after schools in the former group "break away" to form a super league made for TV viewing with 32 or so "schools." I think I know which group GT would elect to be in.